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Eringobragh1916
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20 Apr 2012 18:52 |
Have found what appears to be Marriage of Joseph (above) and Hannah WEATHERSPOON...
Isabella b 1843 is down as Elizabeth Isabella on Birth Entry....!!
spouse: Hannah Weatherspoon
groom's name: Joseph Ferry groom's birth date: 1795 groom's age: 24 bride's name: Hannah Weatherspoon bride's birth date: 1798 bride's age: 21 marriage date: 26 Dec 1819 marriage place: Chester Le Street,Durham,England
Have looked for any other children before those listed on Census... Baptisms : Hannah Ferry 3 June 1821***(possibly died see below) Robert Ferry 17 August 1823 Hannah Ferry 1 October 1826
I think you are right about Isabella.... Thanks for "Jane"....wonder who in the name of the Wee Man is Henrietta (1881)
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MarieCeleste
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20 Apr 2012 19:03 |
Erin, the Jonathan that is married to Henrietta (I posted marriage on previous page) is not the John that is married to Rebecca's sister Jane.
John and Jonathan must be closely related as Rebecca is with Jonathan and Henrietta in 1881 and her two brothers are with John and Jane.
1881 England Census Name: Jonathan Blacklock Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Henrietta Blacklock Gender: Male Where born: Pit House Lane, Durham, England Civil parish: Pittington County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Pit House Lane Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Houghton Le Spring Sub-registration district: Hetton le Hole ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: Piece: 4977 Folio: 115 Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age Jonathan Blacklock 26 Henrietta Blacklock 21 Elizabeth Blacklock 3 Hannah H. Blacklock Rebecca Ferry 14 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1881 England Census Name: John M. Blacklock Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Blacklock Gender: Male Where born: Durham, England Civil parish: Tunstall County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 1 West St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: Occupation: Deputy Overman (Pitman)
Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: Piece: 4999 Folio: 127 Page Number: 64
Household Members: Name Age John M. Blacklock 36 Jane Blacklock 30 Mariar Blacklock 3 John M. Blacklock 1 George Ferry 20 Joseph Ferry
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Eringobragh1916
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20 Apr 2012 19:11 |
What tangled lives they led..!!!
Have also found that the Blacklocks/Ferrys/Ledgers were also in Nova Scotia Canada mid 1800s...!!(Probably other Branches of the respective families) Maybe they didnt remember or know where Rebecca was actually born...!!!
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MarieCeleste
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20 Apr 2012 19:16 |
Now - one of the census records gave Rebecca's birthplace as Canada ......
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Jane
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20 Apr 2012 22:47 |
Hello, Just been looking through lots of papers after looking at all the information that has come. I dod find Jane Ferry on the 1861 census with the Ferry family it has what looks like Isabella down as 29 and Jane's age looks like 9 not to clear, and the marriage date I have for Joseph and Isabella is 22nd October 1854 at the Church of St Mary's and St Cuthbert's in Chester-le-Street, Durham, the researcher I had told me he could not find a birth for a Jane Ferry so he thought Isabella might have had her before Joseph in that case I would have thought she might have had her mam's maiden name of Ledger first then maybe had it changed to Ferry when Isabella married Joseph, unless it was to cover that Jane was born out of wedlock. I did get some papers from a relative of the Blacklock family and it looks like the parents of Jonathon Blacklock are Jonathon and Hannah and he was born on the 26thJune 1854, and John Marshall Blacklock's parents are George and Maria and he was born 1st December 1845. The person who gave me these family papers could not verify Jane's maiden name for me, these 2 men are from the same family. The other information underneath is that the name Marshall comes from his grandmother's maiden name. When I saw my g gran Rebecca living with the Blacklock's and one of the men was married to a Jane I thought it must be Rebecca's sister. The other thing which made me feel this is my dad's middle name is Marshall it is not a family name but it is in the Blacklock family so I thought because they had taken Rebecca and her brother's in that is why my dad was given this name, I never new where the name came from till I saw the paper work on the Blacklocks. Also one of the spellings is down as John Marshall Blaikloch. Maybe even Jane was born in another Country but not to Joseph, it certainly looks abit weird, maybe I should try and apply for a birth certificate with the info I have and see what happens I could always ring the record office see what they come up with, but the researcher did go to the records office and could'nt find anything so that makes me think she was'nt born or registered in County Durham. The Isabella that was in the Newspaper Articles I don't think is my gg gran Isabella for Larcency because she died 2 years after that date on the Newspaper and the young Isabella could be my g g granddad Joseph's sister as her dad was Joseph to. I did look on the net for the Robin Hood pub that was mentioned in the Newspaper to see if there was any old History on it as sometimes publicans names crop up but could'nt get anything for Leamside. Another researcher on here mentioned about it had America for Rebecca but scribled at the side was Nova Scotia, I wondered if the family had got mixed up or the person doing the census as there is a Nova Scotia in the area where the Ferry's and Ledger's lived. Anything else I seem to have puts Rebecca down as born in PA. I just wish there was'nt so many in the family with the same name it is so hard sometimes to work out who is who. Going to go and now have a ponder on what has come and thanks again, just amazed at the help you have given me. Cherrio Jane.
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MarieCeleste
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21 Apr 2012 19:26 |
From a new thread:
This is my g uncle Joseph his parents are Joseph Ferry and Isabella Fletcher nee Ledger. I have Joseph as a scholar in 1871 and then a coal miner, in 1881 Joseph lived with John and Jane Blacklock in Tunstall, also Joseph's brother George born 1860 Fatfield, I have info that George married as I have a marriage certificate for him but don't know what happened to Joseph, wondered if he maybe married and went to work and live abroad. I must have living relatives connected to g uncle George and wondered if I have living relatives from g uncle Joseph if he married. Hope someone can help me with Joseph. Thanks Jane.
he feels like a missing link at the moment.
Jane - best to keep it all on here.
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MarieCeleste
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21 Apr 2012 19:36 |
Perhaps?
Baltimore, Passenger Lists, 1820-1948 and 1954-1957 Name: Joseph Ferry Arrival Date: 15 Sep 1881 Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Gender: Male Race: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Hebernian Port of Arrival: Baltimore, Maryland
He was a labourer and was heading to Oskalooga, Iowa.
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Jane
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22 Apr 2012 17:10 |
Thanks MarieCeleste this looks really promising will print off. Jane.
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Jane
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23 Apr 2012 13:07 |
Re: Joseph Ferry 1862 Fatfield I did put this as a new post but should'nt have as he is part of the Ferry family that I have had information, I hope this is ok so that information is not duplicated. Thanks Jane.
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Jane
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26 Apr 2012 15:03 |
Hello message for MarieCeleste, I received a baptism certificate for my g grandmother Rebecca Fletcher nee Ledger and there was not a place of birth down just date of boirth in June 1866 and baptised in September 1868, a little disapointed but nice to know she had been baptised. Have also found information on some of the Blacklock they went to Australia. Kind regards Jane.
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MarieCeleste
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26 Apr 2012 19:02 |
Hi Jane, shame about the baptism info.
If you need anything looking up on the Blacklocks then just let us know.
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Vanessa
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27 Apr 2012 06:17 |
This is only a submitted record, but does indicate that Rebecca may have been born in the UK??
Shame no documents to back it up!
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REBECCA FERRY Pedigree Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 18 JUN 1866 Pit House Lane,W, Rainton, Durham, England Christening: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOSEPH FERRY Family Mother: ISABELLA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: No source information is available.
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Jane
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27 Apr 2012 08:11 |
Hi, All the other information I have puts Rebecca down as a British Subject next to PA, on most records that I have and on her baptism it states only her birth of June 1866 but she was not baptised until Sept 1868 which seems quite a while to wait to have it done unless they waited untill they came home. I think I will call the Durham Record Office and just see if they have got anything for her for a birth. Thanks for the offer on the Blacklock family I just saw quite allot of details on someones tree on Ancestry and I have sent a message off no answer yet, but it was there I saw about Australia and saw a picture of Johnthan and Henrietta Blacklock. There was another tree with John Marshall Blacklock and family but not to much info about them. Going to apply foe a copy of Jane Blacklock nee Ferry marriage certificate also Durham Records and will ask about a birth for her. I know Jane was born when Isabella was only about 19/20 before her marriage to Joseph but I have looked to see if maybe Jane was registered as a Ledger at first then Isabella just changed her name to Ferry after her marriage but could'nt find anything for that date. I wonder if when Jane married if she would have had to show documentation of her birth showing her parents names, maybe it was'nt as strict then. Just have to keep digging and if I get some documents maybe findout more. Thanks Kind regards Jane.
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MarieCeleste
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27 Apr 2012 18:54 |
Looks like the Blacklocks arriving in Australia:
New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896 Name: Jonathan Blacklock Birth Year: abt 1855 Age: 29 < a miner Arrival Date: 3 Feb 1884 Vessel Name: Abergeldie
He was travelling with Henrietta 24, Elizabeth 6, Hannah 3 and Maria 1. All from Durham.
For some reason they are recorded arriving again:
New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896 Name: Jonathan Blacklock Birth Year: abt 1855 Age: 29 Gender: Male Arrival Date: 23 Dec 1884 Vessel Name: Abergeldie
Same details as above, but this time there is "female infant" also recorded.
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MarieCeleste
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27 Apr 2012 19:00 |
A possible 1901 census:
1901 New South Wales, Australia Census Name: Jonathan Blacklock Locality: Lambton Sub-District: L2 Lampton County: Northumberland District: Newcastle
The census give no detail about age, occupation or birthplace. The record only states there are 4 males and 6 females in the household.
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MarieCeleste
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27 Apr 2012 19:02 |
Possibly Jonathan's death:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: Jonathan Blacklock Death Date: 1915 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: Jonathan Registration Year: 1915 Registration Place: Wallsend, New South Wales Registration number: 6196
and Henrietta's:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: Henrietta Blacklock Death Date: 1937 Death Place: New South Wales Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Elizabeth Registration Year: 1937 Registration Place: Wallsend, New South Wales Registration number: 837
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MarieCeleste
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27 Apr 2012 19:06 |
Henrietta in 1936:
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 about Henrietta Blacklock Name: Henrietta Blacklock Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1936 State: New South Wales District: Hunter Subdistrict: Wallsend
She's living Newcastle Road, Wallsend with Elizabeth, a schoolteacher.
Living in Perk Road are John Marshall Blacklock, a miner, with Mary Jane.
(The scenario was exactly the same in 1930)
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Jane
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28 Apr 2012 13:28 |
Hi, Thanks for all the info the Mary Jane is the wife of John Marshall Blacklock Jnr and she looks as if she was born in Australia. I did send a message on Ancestry to a tree which was placed by a Blacklock but I havn't had any reply as of yet. The one thing it has established is other then Jane Blacklock nee Ferry none of the other Ferry family went with them. I got mixed up and thought Joseph Ferry Jane's brother may have went with them but then realised your information pointed to him going to America. Still unsure about Jane and her birth but hoping to contact Durham Records to see if they can help also about my G Gran Rebecca and her birth, also marriage lines for Jane and John Blacklock. I wonder who Elizabeth the teacher is I notice Henrietta's mam is Elizabeth so maybe its another daughter named after the mother. Thanks again. Jane.
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MarieCeleste
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28 Apr 2012 14:46 |
Jane, if you look at the shipping record of them arriving in Oz they had a 6 year old daughter Elizabeth. I think it's quite likely that she is the schoolteacher.
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MarieCeleste
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28 Apr 2012 14:49 |
This looks like the marriage of John Marshall Blacklock and Mary Jane:
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 Name: John M Blacklock Spouse Name: Mary J Clark Marriage Date: 1911 Marriage Place: New South Wales Registration Place: Wallsend, New South Wales Registration Year: 1911 Registration number: 7327
Another marriage for the same name:
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 Name: John Marshall Blacklock Spouse Name: Doris Ruth Elliott Marriage Date: 1938 Marriage Place: New South Wales Registration Place: Mayfield, New South Wales Registration Year: 1938 Registration number: 20205
A remarriage? A son of the same name?
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