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I am trying to find information regarding Agnes B Marshall (married name) I have been told her maiden name was Agnes B Smith, father John Smith and was born in walthamstow in approx 1855.

In her adult years she ran a Cookery school in London

Any help with her family would be a great help

Thank you

there's this one

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
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>>>>>MARSHALL Alfred William St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 621
Mills Mary Ann St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 621
>>>>>SMITH Agnes Bertha St Geo H.Sq 1a 621
Wistance Edward St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 621



1881

MARSHALL, Alfred W Head Married M 33 1848 Private Tuter
Eton
Buckinghamshire VIEW
MARSHALL, Agnes B Wife Married F 25 1856
Walthamstow
Essex VIEW
MARSHALL, Agnes E Daughter Single F 1 1880
Chelsea
Middlesex VIEW
MARSHALL, Alfred H Son Single M 0 1881
Marylebone
Middlesex VIEW
BAINES, Mary E Visitor Single F 26 1855 Ladys Maid
Redditch
Worcestershire VIEW

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Piece:
163 Folio:
45 Page:
35 Registration District:
Marylebone

Civil Parish:
St Marylebone Municipal Borough:
Address:
6, Wellington Rd, St Marylebone County:
London, Middlesex

1901

MARSHALL, Alfred W Head Married M 53 1848 Manufacture Culinary Requisites
Taplow
Buckinghamshire VIEW
MARSHALL, Agnes B Wife Married F 44 1857 Teacher Of Cooking
Walthamstow
Essex VIEW
MARSHALL, Agnes A Daughter Single F 21 1880
Chelsea
London VIEW
VOGEL, Anna Servant Single F 34 1867 Lady Housekeeper
Germany German Subject VIEW
WATTS, Eliza Servant Single F 39 1862 Cook Domestic
Old Tupton
Derbyshire VIEW
FRANCESCHI, Alma Servant Single F 24 1877 Housemaid Domestic
Austria Austrian S VIEW
CARPENTER, Ada Servant Single F 14 1887 Scullery Maid Domestic
Watford
Hertfordshire VIEW
COCK, Anna Servant Single F 26 1875 Housemaid Domestic
Germany German S VIEW
SCHULER, Franz Servant Single M 27 1874 Butler Domestic
Germany German S VIEW

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Piece:
1210 Folio:
15 Page:
21 Registration District:
Hendon

Civil Parish:
Pinner Municipal Borough:
Address:
The Towers, West End, Pinner County:
Middlesex

Deaths Sep 1905 (>99%)
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MARSHALL Agnes Bertha 50 Hendon 3a 108

not finding her birth?



found the following -

http://www.canalmuseum.org.uk/ice/marshall.htm


Mrs A.B. Marshall
Agnes Marshall, Queen of Ice Cream


'Mrs. Agnes Bertha Marshall (1855 - 1905) was a celebrity cook, equivalent to today's television stars of cookery, who demonstrate and write books, and are personality performers. Had there been television in her day, Mrs. Marshall would have without question been a cookery "guru" on the small screen - she was always keen to adopt new technology. Agnes Marshall wrote four books:-
•The Book of Ices 1885
•Mrs. A.B. Marshall's Book of Cookery 1888
•Mrs. A.B. Marshall's Larger Cookery Book of Extra Recipes 1891
•Fancy Ices 1894
and these are considered to be some of the finest books of their type ever written, especially those on ices, of which Mrs. Marshall was the Queen. Her recipes are clear, accurate, and well illustrated. Mrs. Marshall has been neglected by historians, and is not famous today, unlike Mrs. Beeton, whose work benefited from commercial promotion long after her death. In contrast Mrs. Marshall's family did not make a long term success of her business which included a cookery school, sales of equipment, and invention of machines.
She ran a domestic staff agency business, sold domestic and cooking equipment, and ran a successful school of cookery. She campaigned for better standards of food hygiene. In 1886 she started a magazine called "The Table". Agnes toured extensively, lecturing and demonstrating her techniques to huge audiences. Mrs. Marshall can be credited with the invention of the ice cream edible cone, mentioned in her 1888 cookery book, the recipe being "cornets with cream". This predates American claims to the invention in 1904! There are no known earlier references to the edible ice cream cone which nowadays we all take for granted.Her books stimulated demand for imported Norwegian ice which was supplied from the building which is now the London Canal Museum. An exhibition at Syon House (1998) and at London Canal Museum (1999) told the story of her amazing life, which, sadly, ended at the age of only 49'

Thank you. any way of finding out about her family before she was married?

Thank you for your help

How do you know her Fathers name is John?

Do you have her marriage cert?

If so, what was her Fathers occupation please?

1861 just posting while having a look around

Name: Artha Smith
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Smith
Mother's Name: May M Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Walthamstow, Essex, England

Civil parish: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 1061
Folio: 46
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Smith 40 - Chelford - think it is Chingford - gardener
May M Smith 32 - Walthamstow
Edmond J Smith 14
Emily Smith 9
Artha Smith 7
Sabina Smith 4
Alice E Smith 2

Class: RG 9; Piece: 1061; Folio: 46; Page: 15; GSU roll: 542745.

Could it be Bertha ??

No I dont have a certificate, I was told be someone but I know they were married in 1878 St George Hanover

1861 this one has a father called John

Name: Bartha Smith
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Smith
Mother's Name: Hannah Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Springfield, Essex, England

Civil parish: Springfield
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Chelmsford
Sub-registration district: Great Baddow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Piece: 1082
Folio: 11
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 31
Hannah Smith 26
Agnes Smith 7
Grace Smith 3
Bartha Smith 2
William Green 24
Henry Archer 40



BUT you really need the marriage cert

The Agnes in the family is the right age to be who i'm looking for.

Thanks

Wikipedia -


'Marshall was born in Walthamstow. Her father, John Smith, was a clerk, but died when she was young and his widow, Susan, remarried'

'Marshall's early life remains obscure, but it was later written in the Pall Mall Gazette that she studied cooking from an early age, and "practised at Paris and with Vienna's celebrated chefs"'

I don't know if there is a clue here......but Ada M Wells is down as "Sister in Law"....Single...Housekeeper.


1891 England Census
about Agnes B Marshall
Name: Agnes B Marshall
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alfred W Marshall
Gender: Female
Where born: Walthamstow, Essex, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 90
Folio: 39
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred W Marshall 45
Agnes B Marshall 35
Alfred H Marshall 10
William E Marshall 8
Ada M Wells 22 >>>> Kingsland London
Lilias Wishart 30
Sarah Lasar 54
Mary Gilhooley 27
Bridget Flye 28
Eliza Lehamy 23
Annis Flyn 28
Bridgeh Gilhooly 24

1881

WELLS, John Head Married M 50 1831 Cabinet Maker
St Neots
Huntingdonshire VIEW
>>>>>WELLS, Susan Wife Married F 53 1828
Walthamstow
Essex VIEW
WELLS, John O Son Single M 17 1864 Messenger
Shoreditch
Middlesex VIEW
>>>>>WELLS, Ada M Daughter Single F 13 1868
Shoreditch
Middlesex VIEW
>>>>>SMITH, Ethel Grandchild Single F 2 1879
Shoreditch
Middlesex VIEW

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Piece:
305 Folio:
75 Page:
14 Registration District:
Hackney

Civil Parish:
Hackney Municipal Borough:
Address:
132, Blurton Rd, Hackney County:
London, Middlesex

I have to leave now but will check back on here tomorrow.

Good luck. :-)

I was just about to post that Choccy!

sorry Prickly - think you might have found the right family -

no sign of Agnes Bertha with them though in 1871



1871 England Census

Name: Susan Wells
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Wells
Gender: Female
Where born: Walthamstow, Essex, England
Civil parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Haggerstone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston West
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 126
Piece: 466
Folio: 75
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
John Wells 40
Susan Wells 43
Mary Wells 11
John Wells 7
Ida Wells 3 (Ada on original)




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 466; Folio: 75; Page: 21; GSU roll: 823366.

will look in again tomorrow with fresh eyes !

thanks all you help