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Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 26 Mar 2012 21:52

it's a Brick Wall !!!
is there a way of finding out who was living at her address given in 1911
which was:- 22 Bensham Grove, Thornton Heath. ??

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 26 Mar 2012 21:57

?????

1881 England Census
Name: John Fullagar
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenstreet, Kent, England
Civil parish: Vessels
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: "Estafette"

Occupation: Apprentice
Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: Estapetter




?????
Marriages Jun 1890
Andrews Rosetta Elizabeth Greenwich 1d 1452
Fullagar John Joseph Greenwich 1d 1452 <<<<<
Preece Annie Louisa Greenwich 1d 1452 ?????
Staples Edward Richard Greenwich 1d 1452

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 26 Mar 2012 21:57

Hi Mary,
I didn't know of a will.

Mary

Mary Report 26 Mar 2012 22:09

1934 death of George Robert Boys
Address
1,East View Cottages
Grayswood
Surrey

£121 10s to widow Annie Ellen Boys.

1891 Sussex Vessels Duke of York
John Fullagar 1855 Hastings Sussex married Fisherman.

Maryb

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 26 Mar 2012 22:27

It does look like Annie Preece & John Fullagar were a couple as I've found what might be the other two on that reg'n index.

1891 England Census
Name: Rosetta Staples
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Staples
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford

Piece: 494
Folio: 150
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Staples 19
Rosetta Staples 19
Edward J Staples 6/12

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 26 Mar 2012 22:33

Ozibird,
Your 1881 census of the "Estafette" ties in with his occupation as sailor
as it looks like a training ship.

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Mar 2012 22:35




1911 census transcription details for: 22 Bensham Grove Thornton Heath
National Archive Reference: RG14PN3392 RG78PN127 RD39 SD4 ED25 SN228

Reg. District: Croydon Sub District: North Croydon
Parish: Croydon Enum. District: 25
Address: 22 Bensham Grove Thornton Heath County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Where Born
LONG, Harry Walter Head Married M 42 1869 House Painter Elm Grove Brixton
LONG, Annie Eliza Wife Married14 years F 41 1870 Cornwall Rd Brixton
LONG, Annie Margaret Daughter F 12 1899 Croydon Surrey
LONG, Harry Alfred Son M 7 1904 Croydon Surrey
LONG, Gladys Emily Daughter F 3 1908 Croydon Surrey
LONG, Lousia May Daughter F 0 1911 Croydon Surrey

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 26 Mar 2012 22:48

?????? This i don't understand.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 26 Mar 2012 22:52

1911 of 22 Bensham Grove - you asked for the people who lived there.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 26 Mar 2012 22:56

As she married 17th April 1911, I thought she might have been listed.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Mar 2012 23:04

You don't necessarily live at the address you give for marriage, which I know doesn't help.

When we got married I gave a different address to my own so we could get married in a nicer register office.

Mary

Mary Report 27 Mar 2012 08:57

Any signs of her death or remarriage?

Maryb.

EDIT Her death ??
Annie E Boys born @ 1883 died A/M/J 1968 Surrey
V5g P77.

Mary

Mary Report 27 Mar 2012 13:34

1911 census,Harry Walter long occupies a 3 room Flat at 22 Bensham Grove,other occupants

1911 22,Bensham Grove 3 rooms
Alice Louisa Boys 1858 Cliffords Inn married 34 years 10 children 5 died.
So this is why Annie Ellen gives this address, it is her mother in laws.

Who were the witnesses on marriage cert please.

Maryb.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 21:01

Well sourced Maryb,
Witnesses:-
E. Fullagar & Chas Boys

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 21:24

Just found a marriage,
John Joseph Fullagar x Annie Louisa Preece, june qtr 1890. Greenwich.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 27 Mar 2012 21:51

Here's John Fullagar and Annie Preece, and I don't think they're yours.

1891 England Census
Name: John Fullagar
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Fullagar
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashford, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Wellington Place

Occupation: Coppersmith

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
Piece: 497
Folio: 33
Page Number: 60
Household Members: Name Age
John Fullagar 35
Annie Fullagar 39 - Whitney, Yorkshire
Lilian Pruce 3 [Preece] - step-daughter; Bermondsey

By 1901 John is widowed and he and Lillian, recorded as Fullagar, are living with his mother, Jemima. He's a coppersmith.


However, I have found this in 1911. He's the right age to be Annie's father.

1911 England Census
Name: John Fullagar
Age in 1911: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Crew
Birth Place: Hastings, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Act Master
Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: Dover

The next page is interesting as it is all about the vessel. He's involved in dredging operations on the Govt Craft, DW 37 Hopper. The vessel is moored overnight at Admiralty Harbour, Dover.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 27 Mar 2012 21:55

1891 England Census
Name: John Fullagar
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Newhaven Harbour
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Occupation: Fisherman

Condition as to marriage: Single

Registration district: Lewes
Sub-registration district: Newhaven
ED, institution, or vessel: Duke of York

He is the only person on the page and it has his signature at the bottom.


Bummer!!! He's also single in 1901.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 22:01

Two John Fullagars 1856 !!!
However, 1911 dredging fits in with Sailor.

Norfolkboy

Norfolkboy Report 27 Mar 2012 22:15

I would love to read about the Vessel Ozibird,
Could you give me a link ?

Mary

Mary Report 27 Mar 2012 22:47

If that is her dad John on 1911 census,I wonder why she said he was dead on marriage cert??

Maryb