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Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 11:02

No it says he is a bachelor.

Gee

Gee Report 6 Mar 2012 11:06

Any middle name and the occupation of his father and also the witnesses names might help

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Mar 2012 11:06

On the 1881 census George and his wife have his brother living with them who is also a Florist.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2012 11:09

Looks like he had children with his first wife although they only initials to you may be able to find their births
WENHAM, George Head Married M 25 1856 Florist
Hertford Heath
Hertfordshire VIEW
WENHAM, J Wife Married F 25 1856
Bishops Stortford
Essex VIEW
WENHAM, E Son Single M 2 1879
Waltron Waldon
Essex VIEW
WENHAM, E Daughter Single F 0 1881
Tottenham
Middlesex VIEW
WENHAM, T Brother Single M 19 1862 Florist
Hode ON
Hertfordshire VIEW
Piece:
1380 Folio:
106 Page:
44 Registration District:
Edmonton

Civil Parish:
Tottenham Municipal Borough:
Address:
7, Laurel Terrace Park Lane, Tottenham County:
Middlesex


this looks like them in 1871

Name: Frances Riches (correction done on the census transcript)
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Riches
Gender: Male
Where born: Amwell, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Broxbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoddesdon
Town: Hoddesdon
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ware
Sub-registration district: Hoddesdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 164
Piece: 1349
Folio: 87
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Riches 49 occ Gardener
Mary A Riches 43
Elizabeth Wenham 19
George Wenham 16 errand boy
Martha Wenham 14
Thomas Wenham 10
Frank Riches 7
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1349; Folio: 87; Page: 33; GSU roll: 828289.

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 11:10

Yes I did notice that which is a conincidence. I believe George's middle name was Thomas. I do have a birth cert for him born 1855 with his father listed at Thomas and mother Mary Byott, and on censuses I have found it does look that this is the correct family as there is also a brother Thomas listed. But his marriage cert to Lilian his father is listed at George.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2012 11:12

Marriages Dec 1869
RICHES Francis Whitechapel 1c 795
Wenham Mary Ann Whitechapel 1c 795

Gee

Gee Report 6 Mar 2012 11:16

1861 England Census
about Mary Ann Wenham
Name: Mary Ann Wenham
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Wenham
Gender: Female
Where born: Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, England

Civil parish: Broxbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoddesdon
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Ware
Sub-registration district: Hoddesdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 803
Folio: 79
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Wenham 37
Mary Ann Wenham 33
Eleanor Wenham 7
George Wenham 5
Martha Eliza Wenham 4
Thomas Wenham 8 Months


Cant find him 1891?

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 11:18

Thanks all, I am doing this for my husband's auntie who is 91 and am trying to get the correct info as I can!!!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2012 11:18

1861
Name: George Wenham
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Wenham
Mother's name: Mary Ann Wenham
Gender: Male
Where born: Great Amwell, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Broxbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoddesdon
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Ware
Sub-registration district: Hoddesdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Piece: 803
Folio: 80
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wenham 37 occ Ostler
Mary Ann Wenham 33
Eleanor Wenham 7
George Wenham 5
Martha Eliza Wenham 4
Thomas Wenham 8 Months

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 803; Folio: 80; Page: 31; GSU roll: 542703.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2012 11:22

Deaths Sep 1864
WENHAM Thomas Ware 3a 132

Ware reg district covered Great Armwell


So George was young when his dad died so may not have remembered his name

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 11:27

Thank you all for searching for me, it is most appreciated, Janet

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2012 11:30

Wonder if E dau on the 1881 is this one right reg district

Births Dec 1880
WENHAM Julia Ellen Edmonton 3a 263

may have been named after Mum

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 11:32

Could be, I could send off for the birth cert, that should give me info on parents

Gee

Gee Report 6 Mar 2012 11:33

Deleted that census and marriage as it is defo a different family as Ive traced them back and forward

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 11:40

No it says batchelor

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 6 Mar 2012 12:04

Widower and widow.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Francis Riches
Name: Francis Riches
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Wenhaus
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Oct 1870 *************
Parish: Holy Trinity Minories
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: David Riches
Spouse Father Name: John Byott ************
Register Type: Parish Register

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 12:12

Thank you Mel

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2012 12:13

The actual marriage cert has her as Wenham and the marriage as 1869 not 1870 have done transcription error report

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2012 12:18

Marriages Mar 1852
Byott Mary Ann St George Hanover Square 1a 239
Wenham Thomas St George Hanover Square 1a 239

Janet

Janet Report 6 Mar 2012 12:18

Thank you all for the information you have given me.


Jante