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Just to confirm, Margaret, daughter of Ebeneezer and Dinah 15 December 1845 in Pillgwennly, Newport :-)

Dea - Thomas Llewellyn Lodger Married Male 60 1821 Wales Sawyer **** - Is this one of 'your' Llewellyn's ?? - not sure I don't currently have one born 1821

Dea - brilliant. The Trotts (Joseph and Hannah - presumably Margaret's sister) were the witnesses at the marriage! So that seals it I think!!!

I'll digest the rest at my leisure!

Jude

This is an article re Dinah's very sad death:


Reece (district coroner) held an inqueoet pI at the Cardiff Union on Monday touching thle death of an old woman, named Dinah Bevan, who was found wandering about on the Haves Bridge on the morning of the 2nd inst., and was taken to the workhouse, where ....................
11 September 1888 - Western Mail - Cardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales

I have copied it in full to 'my keepsafes' here:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/69732526

Shr was a widow at that time so Ebenezer had obviously died between 1881 and 1888.

Dea x

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
John Street, Roath, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Trott Grandson - Male 12 1859 - Monmouthshire, Wales
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Ebenezer Beavan Head - Male 64 1807 - Breconshire, Wales
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Dinah Beavan Wife - Female 63 1808 - Monmouthshire, Wales




1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
59, John Street, Roath, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Ebenezer Beavan Head Married Male 60 1821 Wales Sawyer
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Dinah Beavan Wife Married Female 60 1821 Wales -
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Thomas Llewellyn Lodger Married Male 60 1821 Wales Sawyer **** - Is this one of 'your' Llewellyn's ??


Dea x

Still at home with her family in 1861:


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Penygraes, Lanedarn, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Ebenezer Bevan Head Married Male 46 1815 Sawyer Langamarch, Brecknockshire, Wales
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Dinah Bevan Wife Married Female 50 1811 Sawyers Wife Peterstow, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Mary Ann Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 Dressmaker Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Margaret Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1846 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Joseph Trott Grandson - Male 2 1859 - Risca, Monmouthshire, Wales
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William Jenkins Lodger Unmarried Male 27 1834 Sawyer St Brides, Monmouthshire, Wales

Dea x

Name: Ebenezar Bevan
Birth Date: 18 Jul 1814
Birth Place: Llangamarch, Breconshire, Wales
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Bevan
Mother: Margret Greenway
Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1814
Baptism Place: Brecon, Breconshire, Wales
Denomination: Calvinistic Methodist
Piece Title: Piece 4112: Brecon, Struet Chapel (Calvinistic Methodist), 1810-1837

Dea x

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wern Farm, Bassalleg Hamlet of Rogerstone, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

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Ebenezer Bevan Head Married Male 36 1815 Sawyer Brecknockshire, Wales
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Dina Bevan Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Monmouthshire, Wales
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Hannah Bevan Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Mary Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Margaret Bevan Daughter - Female 5 1846 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Isaac Bevan Son - Male 12 1839 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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John Jones Brother-In-Law Unmarried Male 23 1828 Ag La Not Known
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David Davies Nephew - Male 6 1845 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
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Joseph Fisher Lodger Unmarried Male 25 1826 Sawyer Wiltshire, England
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SO, Dina / Dinah's name was 'Jones' then:

BEVAN, MARGARET JONES Order
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in NEWPORT Volume 26 Page 108

BEVAN, HANNAH JONES Order
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in NEWPORT Volume 26 Page 117

BEVAN, ISAAC JONES Order
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in NEWPORT Volume 26 Page 89


Dea x

Oh how I hate it when this happens......

So the marriage certificate came back and her father is Ebeneezer, a sawyer, not Thomas a sawyer.....although there is an illegible squiggle to the side...she was just 17 in December 1862 which fits with a birth in 1845..so can anyone find Ebeneezer with a daughter Margaret in 1851? I think she is a servant in 1861...

Jude

So I have a birth certificate for "a" Margaret...the parents match with the censuses I have found. But have to wait for marriage certificate to come before I can be sure it is the right Margaret (and they don't do pdfs of marriages) - watch this space!

Yep definitely!

William?

NOK: father- William Llewellyn, no6 Spring Gardens, Cardiff
Discharged 1898

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription (FMP)
First name(s) William
Last name Llewellyn
Birth year 1868
Birth parish Roath
Birth town Cardiff
Birth county Glamorganshire
Birth country Wales
Service number 2024
Regiment South Wales Borderers
Year 1886
Attestation date 13 Oct 1886
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months 11
Attestation service number 2024
Attestation corps South Wales Borderers
Discharge corps South Wales Borderers
Document type Attestation

Cheers AQ..not sure about the military because registered birth March quarter 1883. But will have a potter tomorrow ??

Possible for Llewellyn?

Montana County Marriages

name(s) Llewellyn Llewellyn
Race or color White
Marital status Divorced
Age 26
Year Of Birth 1883
Birth place Cardiff, Wales
Father's name(s) William Llewellyn
Mother's name(s) Margaret Evans
Year 1909
Event date 26 Jun 1909
Place Red Lodge, Carbon, Montana
County Carbon County
State Montana
Country United States
Spouse's name(s) Edith Woten
Spouse's race or color White
Spouse's marital status Widowed
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's birth place Brookville, Kansas
Spouse's father's name(s) A. N. Whittington
Spouse's mother's name(s) Nettie Lewis
Record set United States Marriages
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United States, World War One (WWI) Draft Registration Cards

First name(s) Llewellyn
Last name Llewellyn
Sex Male
Birth year 1882
Birth date 04 Feb 1882
Birth country -
Registration year 1917-1918
Citizenship country United States
Residence Butte City
State Montana
Country United States
Nearest Relative: William Llewellyn, Cardiff S Wales
NARA series M1509
Record set World War I Draft Registration Cards
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Llewellyn and and Edith divorce sometime before 1914 as Edith marries again to Edwin Forest Parker.

Just a note that I will be out watching the races this afternoon so it might be the morning before I return to the thread!

Jude

LLEWELLYN

I have birth and 1891 census and that's that

LEWIS

I have everything

Jude

ANN, DINAH, RUTH

I have everything

CATHERINE and MARGARET born and died between censuses.

THOMAS

I have his birth and him on 1881 and 1891

Missing everything else

MARY ANN

Missing 1891 census (she did not marry until 1899)

JANE

I have everything

ALFRED THOMAS

I have his birth and that's it. He's not on 1871 census with William and Margaret when he would have been two at most.

Jude

WILLIAM (Son)

I am very little further forward with this one but I do have a twist!

I purchased the pdf of his birth and it is 10 March 1868. However, William and Margaret had a son baptised William on 27 October 1867! I cannot find a birth that matches the baptism or a baptism that matches the birth of William in 1868 (sort that one out :-) )

I have him in 1871 and 1881 and that's it. Can't find him from 1881 onwards and there are just too many Williams to find a death with any certainty.

Jude

ISAAC

I now know the date of his death from a Trade Union record so all I am missing is the 1901 census

Jude