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Llewellyn Gaps - Edited and Updated

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HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Mar 2012 19:05

I have a family that I can trace but there are still a few black holes.

William Llewellyn married Margaret Bevan in Q4 1862. EDIT - I have sent for the marriage certificate to obtain her father's name (Go to latest post)

Their children were:
Isaac Bevan/Llewellyn 1862; Jane Llewellyn 1865; William Llewellyn 1868; Annie Llewellyn 1870; Thomas 1872; Dinah 1874; Catherine Mary Ann 1876; Mary Ann 1878; Ruth 1881; Margaret 1883; Llewellyn 1883 (These two are twins); Gertrude Frances 1883 and Lewis 1885

I have updated in new posts what information I am still missing

Hope this makes sense

Jude

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Mar 2012 19:17

Where did they live and the children born?

Andy

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Mar 2012 19:17

Born where ?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 2 Mar 2012 19:18

Do you have birthplaces for them?
Jan

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Mar 2012 19:19

Oh yeah sorry...all Roath Cardiff...there was I trying to not befuddle you!! And I forgot the most salient thing....:-)

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 2 Mar 2012 19:22

1891?
Name: William Llewellyn
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Relative (Other Relative)
Gender: Male
Where born: Roath; Cardiff

Civil parish: Roath
Ecclesiastical parish: Roath
Town: Roath
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4385
Folio: 38
Page Number: 70
Household Members: Name Age
John Collins 27
Jane Collins 25
William Llewellyn 48
Isaac Llewellyn 29
Thomas Llewellyn 19
Llewellyn Llewellyn 10
Lewis Llewellyn 6



Roy

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Mar 2012 19:25

Yes Roy, this is William the dad. I can find him all the way through to 1911.

All the children were born Roath Cardiff - except Isaac- who was born Rhymney Monmouthshire. (Like his mother)

I can find the girls all the way. I can find Lewis all the way. Isaac in this census disappears in 1901 and resurfaces in 1911 with another sister

Jude

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Mar 2012 19:29

? where is Isaac in 1911

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 2 Mar 2012 19:32

Sorry, I thought you said In 1891 I cannot find William

i posted the 1891 above now you say
I can find him all the way through to 1911? could you clarify who is missing and what census you cannot find them on

Roy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 2 Mar 2012 19:34

1911
Name: Isaac Llewellyn
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 73 Constellation St
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration District Number: 588
Sub-registration district: Central Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 228
Piece: 32121
Household Members: Name Age
William Hardy 44
Ann Hardy 42
Margaret Hardy 21
Horace Hardy 20
William Hardy 19
Henery Hardy 16
Fred Hardy 15
Herbert Hardy 13
Albert Hardy 11
Tom Hardy 9
Hilda Hardy 7
Charles Hardy 4
Ann Hardy 2
Walter Hardy 3/12
Isaac Llewellyn 46

Roy

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Mar 2012 19:35


Name:Isaac Llewellyn
Age in 1911:46
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1865
Relation to Head:Brother-in-law
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish:Cardiff
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Street Address:73 Constellation St
Marital Status:Single
Registration district:Cardiff
Registration District Number:588
Sub-registration district:Central Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel:22
Household schedule number:228
Piece:32121
Household Members:
William Hardy 44
Ann Hardy 42 This is Annie
Margaret Hardy
Horace Hardy 20
William Hardy 19
Henery Hardy 16
Fred Hardy 15
Herbert Hardy 13
Albert Hardy 11
Tom Hardy 9
Hilda Hardy 7
Charles Hardy 4
Ann Hardy 2
Walter Hardy 3/12
Isaac Llewellyn 46

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 2 Mar 2012 19:36

Roy - sorry it's William the son I can't find after 1881 - born 1867..like I say TOO MANY WILLIAMS!!!!

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 15 Mar 2018 11:37

ISAAC

I now know the date of his death from a Trade Union record so all I am missing is the 1901 census

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 15 Mar 2018 11:46

WILLIAM (Son)

I am very little further forward with this one but I do have a twist!

I purchased the pdf of his birth and it is 10 March 1868. However, William and Margaret had a son baptised William on 27 October 1867! I cannot find a birth that matches the baptism or a baptism that matches the birth of William in 1868 (sort that one out :-) )

I have him in 1871 and 1881 and that's it. Can't find him from 1881 onwards and there are just too many Williams to find a death with any certainty.

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 15 Mar 2018 11:52

JANE

I have everything

ALFRED THOMAS

I have his birth and that's it. He's not on 1871 census with William and Margaret when he would have been two at most.

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 15 Mar 2018 11:57

ANN, DINAH, RUTH

I have everything

CATHERINE and MARGARET born and died between censuses.

THOMAS

I have his birth and him on 1881 and 1891

Missing everything else

MARY ANN

Missing 1891 census (she did not marry until 1899)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 15 Mar 2018 11:59

LLEWELLYN

I have birth and 1891 census and that's that

LEWIS

I have everything

Jude

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 15 Mar 2018 12:00

Just a note that I will be out watching the races this afternoon so it might be the morning before I return to the thread!

Jude

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 15 Mar 2018 12:54

Possible for Llewellyn?

Montana County Marriages

name(s) Llewellyn Llewellyn
Race or color White
Marital status Divorced
Age 26
Year Of Birth 1883
Birth place Cardiff, Wales
Father's name(s) William Llewellyn
Mother's name(s) Margaret Evans
Year 1909
Event date 26 Jun 1909
Place Red Lodge, Carbon, Montana
County Carbon County
State Montana
Country United States
Spouse's name(s) Edith Woten
Spouse's race or color White
Spouse's marital status Widowed
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's birth place Brookville, Kansas
Spouse's father's name(s) A. N. Whittington
Spouse's mother's name(s) Nettie Lewis
Record set United States Marriages
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United States, World War One (WWI) Draft Registration Cards

First name(s) Llewellyn
Last name Llewellyn
Sex Male
Birth year 1882
Birth date 04 Feb 1882
Birth country -
Registration year 1917-1918
Citizenship country United States
Residence Butte City
State Montana
Country United States
Nearest Relative: William Llewellyn, Cardiff S Wales
NARA series M1509
Record set World War I Draft Registration Cards
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Llewellyn and and Edith divorce sometime before 1914 as Edith marries again to Edwin Forest Parker.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 15 Mar 2018 13:41

Cheers AQ..not sure about the military because registered birth March quarter 1883. But will have a potter tomorrow ??