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Edna
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31 Jan 2012 21:24 |
Hi
I am in a quandry, I have just received a marriage cert for an ancestor, Dorothea Ethel Clarke, she married Francis William Gower in 1936 Ampthill Beds. At the time of her marriage she was aged 20 and was classed on the cert as a "widow". Her father's name was scribed as WILLIAM THOMAS CONINGTON, occ: Barrister. I have searched for a marriage for CLARKE/CONINGTON prior to 1936 and cannot find one, so cannot find DOROTHEA's maiden name. Also I have been searching for information on William Thomas Conington and cannot find a birth/marriage or death. The only snippet of info I have on Dorothea was that her mother died in childbirth and her father committed suicide soon after, she was at one time in service in London and then lived with two ladies. I don't know if she was adopted by the Coningtons, how would I find out, also why can't I find anything on William Thomas Conington. I am really stuck on this one
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patchem
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31 Jan 2012 21:43 |
Did she have children, as maiden name on birth certificates, but surely it is Conington if that is her Father's name?
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31 Jan 2012 21:44 |
? Marriage 1938, Wellingborough Northants
Dora E Clarke Leslie CUNNINGTON.?
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31 Jan 2012 21:54 |
I was thinking Cunningham was more likely, in which case she could have been born (and married) in Scotland
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Andrew
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31 Jan 2012 22:03 |
If this is death for Dorothea who married Gower then she was born 1906 and would have been 30 at marriage
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Dorothea E Gower Name: Dorothea E Gower Birth Date: abt 1906 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1968 Age at Death: 62 Registration district: Wellingborough Inferred County: Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 1057 Andy
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patchem
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31 Jan 2012 22:10 |
http://www.forum.familyhistory.uk.com/showthread.php?t=20987
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MarieCeleste
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31 Jan 2012 22:18 |
Maybe her mother was Clarke and never actually married to Dorothea's father?
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Kay????
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31 Jan 2012 22:37 |
Marriage,?
1922,
St Faiths Norfolk
Reuben Clarke.
Dorothea E V Hilborne.
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patchem
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31 Jan 2012 22:41 |
So is this Francis William? Deaths Sep 1958 GOWER Francis W 75 Bedford 4a 18 (or his Dad?)
? Francis William Gower Birth Date: 22 Dec 1901 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1971 Age at Death: 69 Registration district: Bedford Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 4a Page: 160
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Kay????
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31 Jan 2012 23:23 |
who were the witnesses in 1936,,,,,,
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Edna
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1 Feb 2012 12:47 |
Hi
do appreciate your help. I am presuming that the age given on her marriage cert (as 20) is wrong and should read 30, her having been born in 1906 (as shown on her death record). The witnesses at the wedding were Gladys C and William T Tyroe. Dorothea and Francis had a daughter in 1938 and the maiden name shown was Conington. Why would the Conington name not show up on her marriage cert is she had been married before. I have searched for a marriage for Clarke to Dorothea to try and ascertain her maiden name and can't find one. As said, the family story is that Dorothea's mother died in childbirth (not known whether it was giving birth to Dorothea or another child) and that her father committed suicide soon after. It appears she was in service in London at one time before living with 2 ladies whom she called Aunts (again don't know if they were actually related and not aware of their surnames). I really don't know where to go next and am frustrated that I am stuck so early on in this families genealogy
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Chrissie2394
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1 Feb 2012 13:01 |
A marriage certificate does not always include any previous name the bride has used before.
My gt gt grandmother married 4 times and on each marriage certificate it stated she was a spinster when in actual fact she was a widow for three of the marriages but the name she was married in was always that of her previous husband, no mention of her former names. I knew it was the right woman though as her fathers name was on all her certificates and this confirmed her maiden name.
The birth certificate you have for her daughters birth in 1938 confirms her maiden name for you, it tally's with her fathers name on her marriage certificate.
Chris
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Edna
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1 Feb 2012 13:05 |
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Dorothea and Francis had a daughter in 1938 named Wendy MArjorie Hickson Gower,now to me, Hickson is a surname so I have been checking links between the names Hickson and Clarke (I am sure that the family of Conington were the adopted parents of Dorothea Ethel), and have found a marriage between Francis W Clarke and Flora E G Hickson in 1924 Ampthill (this is where Dorothea lived at one time). I feel there must be a link but no sure what!!
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rootgatherer
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1 Feb 2012 14:07 |
Births Sep 1890 Hickson Flora Elizabeth G Macclesfield 8a 119
1891
Name: Flora E G Hickson Age: 7/12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Hickson Mother's name: Mary Hickson Gender: Female Where born: Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Hurdsfield Ecclesiastical parish: Hurdsfield County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Bollington ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2810 Folio: 40 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age William Hickson 29 Machinist & Cycle Dealer, b. Macclesfield Mary Hickson 28 b. Salop Flora E G Hickson 7/12 1901 - looks like the "G" is for Gladys?
Name: William Hickson Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary J Hickson Gender: Male Where born: Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Macclesfield Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: West Macclesfield ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 59 Piece: 3312 Folio: 45 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age William Hickson 39 Mary J Hickson 38 Glads Hickson 10 Bertie Hickson 9 Reggie Hickson 7 Donald Hickson 6 Flora / Gladys not with them in 1911
Name: William Hickson Age in 1911: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Macclesfield County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: 51 Park Green Macclesfield Marital Status: Married Occupation: General Engineer Registration district: Macclesfield Registration District Number: 444 Sub-registration district: Macclesfield ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 21483 Household Members: Name Age William Hickson 49 Mary Jane Hickson 48 Harry Bestrand Hickson 19 Joseph Reginald Hickson 17 William Donald Hickson 16 Not seeing Flora / Gladys in 1911.
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rootgatherer
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1 Feb 2012 14:19 |
Name: Flora Elizabeth G Clarke Birth Date: 20 Aug 1890 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1983 Age at Death: 92 Registration district: Southend on Sea Inferred County: Essex Volume: 9 Page: 2947
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Mary
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1 Feb 2012 18:24 |
Did it say her dad was alive on the marriage cert and what was her address at time of marriage.
Maryb.
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Edna
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1 Feb 2012 20:17 |
Hi
Both Dorothea and Francis were living in Ampthill at the time of their marriage and it doesn't show her father? William Thomas Conington as being deceased
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Mary
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1 Feb 2012 20:33 |
Dorothea and Francis also had a son in 1943 is he still with us,maybe he knows something.
Maryb.
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Edna
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1 Feb 2012 20:39 |
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Have been in touch with John, their son and he knows nothing about that side of his family except for what I have posted previously.
thanks
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Shelli
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1 Feb 2012 21:03 |
Picking at straws, have you looked at this entry from 1911 Census?
Reg. District: Stamford Sub District: Stamford Parish: Stamford St Michael Enum. District: 8 Address: 9 Recreation-Road Stamford County: Lincolnshire Birth Year
KENDALL, Abigial Head Widow F 51 1860 Monthly Nurse KENDALL, Edith Daughter Single F 27 1884 Dressmaker KENDALL, Harold John Son Single M 26 1885 Printer Lincs CONINGTON, Ethel Nurse Child F 5 1906
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