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27 Jan 2012 18:10 |
Many thanks, Maureen. You are an angel!
Now to find the birth of George Edward Victor WHILE! In Canada?
Kind regards Victor
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Victor
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27 Jan 2012 18:02 |
Thank you all for this useful info. One of the problems I have faced is that the name 'WHILE' has often been transcribed as 'WHITE' in the records!
Another is that Horace Reginald WHILE re-married after returning to Liverpool in 1913. His second marriage, to Ada JELLICOE, was in 1922. Horace died in 1959.
I suspect that Horace married his first wife, Emily Ann CAPPER, around 1896, and that the couple emigrated to Canada around 1906 with some children. George Edward Victor WHILE was apparently born in Canada in about 1913, just before Horace returned to England with some children - (but no wife!) Had Emily Ann While (nee CAPPER) died (perhaps in childbirth) whilst in Canada?
Who was the mother of George Edward Victor WHILE, and where in Canada was 'Victor' born?
I need help to access Canadian records, if possible.
Thank you all for your interest and help.
Regards Victor
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MaureeninNY
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27 Jan 2012 17:57 |
I don't see them either,Dee. Oh well,at least we sort of know the scenario.
Maureen :-D
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BatMansDaughter
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27 Jan 2012 17:44 |
waves to Maureen ~~~~~~~~~
Can't see them in 1911 in Canada........ gawd knows what they've been mistranscribed as.
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MaureeninNY
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27 Jan 2012 17:29 |
Oh good,Dee! They're going to Beausejour,Manitoba. Looking at: http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
Gives you: DETAILED DEATH INFORMATION
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1913-042123
DECEASED DETAILS Last Name: WHILE Given Names: EMILY ANN Sex: FEMALE Date of Death: 01/07/1913 Time of Death: Place of Death: BROKENHEAD Date of Birth: Age At Death: 33 Units of age: YEARS
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1909-012440
CHILD'S DETAILS Last Name: WHILE Given Names: IDA EVELYN Sex: FEMALE Date of Birth: 23/02/1909 Mother's mn is Capper.
Any births after 1911 won't show.
So they should be in the 1911 census for MB.
Maureen
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27 Jan 2012 17:15 |
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 about Stanley White Name: Stanley White Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903 Date of Arrival: 15 Jun 1907 Vessel: Lake Manitoba Search Ship Database: View the 'Lake Manitoba' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Port of arrival: Montreal, Quebec Port of departure: Liverpool, England and Belfast, Northern Ireland Roll: T-490 Also with him is;
Horace aged 28, Emily 29, John 4 and Horace 10 months.
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Andrew
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27 Jan 2012 17:00 |
Or this one....
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JELLICOE Ada White Toxteth P 8b 331 WHILE Horace R Jellicoe Toxteth P. 8b 331
Andy
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27 Jan 2012 17:00 |
???? UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Horace White Name: Horace White Birth Date: abt 1879 Age: 34 Port of departure: Quebec, Canada Arrival Date: 14 Aug 1913 Port of arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Empress of Britain
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line Official Number: 120940 Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 553; Item: 6
With several children..Stanley,John,Emily,Victor and Horace.
Can't read his occupation. Something trimmer or turner??
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27 Jan 2012 16:44 |
Possible death for Horace??
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Jun 1959 (71%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHILE Horace R 81 Liverpool S. 10d 421
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27 Jan 2012 16:43 |
So not this one then ?
1911 WHILE, Horace Head Married M 31 1880 Carter Warwickshire Bham VIEW WHILE, Alice Maude Wife Married 10 years F 32 1879 Berkshire Reading VIEW WHILE, Horace E Son M 9 1902 Worcestershire Bham VIEW WHILE, Doris E Daughter F 8 1903 Worcestershire Bham VIEW WHILE, Maude B Daughter F 7 1904 Worcestershire Bham VIEW WHILE, Phyliss E Daughter F 5 1906 Worcestershire Bham VIEW WHILE, Hilda Daughter F 3 1908 Worcestershire Bham VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 17899 Reference: RG14PN17899 RG78PN1092 RD383 SD2 ED15 SN172 Registration District: Kings Norton Sub District: Balsall Heath Enumeration District: 15 Parish: Balsall Heath Address: 179 Highgate Road Balsall Heath
No middle initial given on marriage details Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STOKES Arthur James Solihull 6d 1101 TOVEY Alice Maud Solihull 6d 1101 WHILE Horace Solihull 6d 1101 Williams Marian Solihull 6d 1101
probably this one then Births Sep 1879 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While Horace King's N. 6c 430
Rule it out
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Victor
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27 Jan 2012 16:29 |
I am trying to find the MOTHER of a distant relative: 'George Edward Victor WHILE'.
The UK record of Victor's death in 1976 suggests that he was born on 20 June 1913.
My problem is that Victor is thought to have been born somewhere in CANADA (or possibly the USA), before moving to England with his father around 1913.
His father was Horace Reginald WHILE (born Aston, Birmingham, England, in 1878).
Little or nothing is known of the fate of Victor's mother (possibly Emily Ann While, nee CAPPER?), who apparently died in Canada around 1913.
I would be most grateful for any help. Thank you.
Victor
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