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Emily Anderson Barnard

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Bertikins

Bertikins Report 22 Jan 2012 19:04

Thanks everybody, you have all helped me a lot. Some of the details I knew, but you have now confirmed them. I now have enough to complete my research into Emily Barnard as far as I want to go.

Bert

Bertikins

Bertikins Report 22 Jan 2012 18:58

Mel, No, according to the details I have, Matilda stayed single, Clara married Joseph Halstead, Georgina married John Sharpe, and Emily married Herbert William Sharpe (my grandfather).

Bert

jax

jax Report 22 Jan 2012 18:54

I dont suppose getting married was the big thing back then as it is now.

They married because it was frowned upon to live together I doubt whether they had huge expensive parties or gifts bought for them, but a decent meal after the service as it was christmas.

Most of mine married at christmas unless they were expecting...then it was as quick as possable :-D

Bertikins

Bertikins Report 22 Jan 2012 18:42

MarieCelete, What I thought odd was that siblings born in 1865,1868, and 1869 (then a widow), should all get married on the same day. That's why I had my doubts. The date for Samuel Barnard's death is about right.

Londobelle, Could well be, but as I am not a direct descendant of Emily, I don't think I will take my investigations that far. At least I am happy to know why she was called Barnard when she married my grandfather. That has stopped me going crazy over it.

Bert

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 22 Jan 2012 18:24

Emily's Baptism

County Lincolnshire
Place Deeping St James
Church St James
RegisterNumber 1894
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 12 Sep 1869
Forename Emily
Sex F
FatherForename Frederick
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname POPPLE
MotherSurname
Abode This Parish
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes C Hellins Curate
FileNumber 15882

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jan 2012 18:20

Clara married on the 26th Dec and Emily Anderson but not Matilda as far as I can see.

Clara Popple Pedigree
Female Family

Parents:
Father: Frederick Popple Family

Marriages:
Spouse: Joseph Halstead Family
Marriage: 26 DEC 1895 Deeping-St James, , Lincoln, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Clara Popple
Name: Clara Popple
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1895
Registration district: Bourne
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 713


Emily Anderson Barnard Oct-Nov-Dec 1895 Bourne Lincolnshire

Herbert William Sharpe Oct-Nov-Dec 1895 Bourne Lincolnshire


Joseph Halstead Oct-Nov-Dec 1895 Bourne Lincolnshire

Clara Popple Oct-Nov-Dec 1895 Bourne Lincolnshire


Emily Anderson Barnard Pedigree
Female Family


Parents:
Father: Frederick Popple Family


Marriages:
Spouse: Herbert William Sharpe Family
Marriage: 26 DEC 1895 Deeping-St James, , Lincoln, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2012 18:08

I know LB - I was starting to wonder if Samuel's first wife was called "Ball" - then I twigged! Doh!

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 22 Jan 2012 18:05

Don't you just love those Enumerators, MC....lol

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 22 Jan 2012 18:00

Marriage for Archibald?

Marriages Dec 1915
Barnard Archibald V Gumley Peterbro 3b 802

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2012 17:58

1901 for Emily & Samuel's son:

POPPLE, Mary Head Widow F 65 1836 Dressmaker Kings Cliff Northamptonshire
BALL, Archie Visitor Single M 8 1893 Enfield Middlesex
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Registration District: Bourn
Civil Parish: Deeping St James

Address: Eastgate, Deeping St James County: Lincolnshire

I think "Archie Ball" should really be Archibald!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2012 17:51

Spot on Londonbelle!

1911:

POPPLE, Mary Head Widow F 75 1836 Kings Cliffe
BARNARD, Archibald Vivian Grandson Single M 18 1893 Carpenter Apprentice Enfield London Northampton

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Registration District: Bourne
Sub District: Deeping
Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Deeping St James

Address: Eastgate Deeping St James County: Lincolnshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2012 17:50

A possible for Samuel Barnard's death:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1893
Barnard Samuel 26 Whitechapel 1c 265

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 22 Jan 2012 17:48

A child of Emily & Samuel's?

Name: Archibald Vivian Barnard
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1893
Birth: 12 Nov 1892
Baptism Date: 15 Jan 1893
Father's Name: Samuel Barnard occ Painter
Mother's Name: Emily Barnard
Parish or Poor Law Union: Enfield St Andrew
Borough: Enfield
Address: 46 Harman Road, Cardigan Estate, Enfield
Register Type: Parish Registers

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2012 17:45

1891 shows that Samuel may have already been married, the grandchild may be his son:

BARNARD, William Head Married M 60 1831 Gardener Pamdon Essex
BARNARD, Mary A Wife Married F 59 1832 Enfield Middlesex
BARNARD, Samuel Son Widower M 23 1868 Painter Enfield Middlesex
BARNARD, Charles Grandson Single M 2 1889 Enfield Middlesex
WHITELOCK, Stephen Lodger Single M 27 1864 Groom Aworth Sussex

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Registration District: Edmonton
Civil Parish: Enfield

Address: 1, Cottage, Russell Road, Enfield County: Middlesex

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 22 Jan 2012 17:44

1881 England Census
about Emily Anderson Popple
Name: Emily Anderson Popple
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Popple
Gender: Female
Where born: Deeping St James, Lincoln, England

Civil parish: Deeping St James
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address: Eastgate
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Bourn
Sub-registration district: Deeping
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3199
Folio: 73
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Popple 47
Thos. Fredk. Popple 20
Georgina Mary Popple 13
Emily Anderson Popple 12
Lois Baxter Popple 7
Chas.Albert Popple 4
Minnie Popple 3
Ellen Harris 14



MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2012 17:42

Bert, joint wedding weren't uncommon - saved money that way.

Christmas and Boxing Day were two very popular days of the year for marriages then - it was a day when people would already be off work.

The marriages you refer to on the LDS site are not user-submitted so there is no reason to question their validity.

I don't understand your doubts.

Bertikins

Bertikins Report 22 Jan 2012 17:39

MarieCeleste, I got a lot of information from the Family Research website. The marriage records for Clara, Georgina and Emily Popple show the date 26 December 1895. It is possible, but I have my doubts.
Bert

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Jan 2012 17:39

Based on the 1891 that Margee posted above, this is possibly the Barnard family in 1871:

BARNARD, William Head M 39 1832 Essex
BARNARD, Mary Wife F 39 1832 Middlesex
BARNARD, John Son M 18 1853 Middlesex
BARNARD, Louisa Daughter F 12 1859 Middlesex
BARNARD, William Son M 10 1861 Middlesex
BARNARD, Jane Daughter F 7 1864 Middlesex
BARNARD, Edward Son M 5 1866 Middlesex
BARNARD, Samuel Son M 4 1867 Middlesex <<
BARNARD, George Son M 2 1869 Middlesex

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Registration District: Edmonton
Civil Parish: Enfield

Address: Clay Hill, Enfield County: Middlesex

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 22 Jan 2012 17:34

1881 England Census
about Emily Anderson Popple Name: Emily Anderson Popple
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Popple
Gender: Female
Where born: Deeping St James, Lincoln, England

Civil parish: Deeping St James
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address: Eastgate
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Bourn
Sub-registration district: Deeping
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3199
Folio: 73
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Popple 47
Thos. Fredk. Popple 20
Georgina Mary Popple 13
Emily Anderson Popple 12
Lois Baxter Popple 7
Chas.Albert Popple 4
Minnie Popple 3
Ellen Harris 14

Bertikins

Bertikins Report 22 Jan 2012 17:33

To all respondents, thanks a lot. I already have got some of the details, but I did not know of Samuel Barnard. It seems as if she was widowed before she met my Grandfather, which solves most of the confusion. I'll have to research that side a bit more.
Bert