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LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 22 Jan 2012 17:18

That information is not going to be available online, Sheila. You would most probably need to get a copy of their death certificates

Sheila

Sheila Report 22 Jan 2012 12:38

Thank you very much everyone for all the info it has answered so many questions.
One last thing if William died in1940 Barnstaple and Kate died 1950 Tavistock would you be able to find their addresses where they were living.

Once again thank you for your help.

Sheila

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 21:59

The 1866 marriage posted on page 1 as a ? between Charles and Elizabeth Yeo would look to be correct as in 1891 Elizabeth has Yeo visitors with her on census (unless it's a coincidence!)

Can't find a suitable Elizabeth Yeo in the 1861 census. THere are 3 in the 1851 - one born Okehampton daughter of William and Jane and 2 born Inwardleigh, just north of Okehampton. It might need her marriage certificate to determine her father to take the Yeo line back.

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 20:43

1881 - KAte Jane DAFFURN at home in Gloucestershire age 11
1891 - age 21 Kate Jane DAFFORN Housemaid, Domestic Servant to the Barham family @ 1 ST Philips Place, Birmingham
1889-1893 - William on "Home Service"
1893 - 3/1896 - William In Gibraltar

Would guess that at some point he is serving in the Gloucestershire or Birmingham area and meets KAte. They are married not long after his return from Gibraltar. (a good place to serve HM !!)

1881 census transcription details for: ?, Buckland

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2565 Folio: 126 Page: 3

Reg. District: Winchcomb Sub District: Cleeve
Parish: Buckland Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: ?, Buckland
County: Gloucestershire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation , Disability Where Born
DAFFURN, Alfred Head Widower M 60 1821 Stone MasonLaverton Gloucestershire
DAFFURN, Edwin Brother Single M 50 1831 Stone Mason Laverton Gloucestershire
DAFFURN, Jemima Daughter Single F 28 1853 Laverton Gloucestershire
DAFFURN, Thomas Son Single M 20 1861 Stone Mason Laverton Gloucestershire
DAFFURN, William Son Single M 18 1863 Laborer Laverton Gloucestershire
DAFFURN, Kate Jane Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Laverton Gloucestershire


LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Jan 2012 20:24

That would account for him not being with Kate Jane in 1901 census as he was in South Africa

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 20:20

Service history
Attested(Enlisted) 27.2.1889 - says his trade is CArpenter and has previously served a 5 year apprenticeship in Okehampton with a Mr Geen (it looks like wonder if it means Green). Regiment is Royal Engineers, he is a Sapper
27.2.1889-19.2.93 Home
20.2.93-28.3.96 Gibraltar
29.3.96-7.11.99 Home
8.11.1899- 4.2.02 South Africa (Boer War)
5.2.02-26.2.02 Home

NOK Mother Elizabeth/ Brother Alfred John/ Sisters Mary *Bristol, Glos, Grace, ?, Emma, Elizabeth, Jane East Street, Okehampton

Various medals
Discharged at Chatham 26.2.1902 - Trade CArpenter. Intended address c/o Mrs Kent4 Coopers Cottage, Tivoli, Cheltenham. Crossed out under this is 3Victoria Street, Okehampton



Medal Roll National Archives WO 100 series
STRATFORD WJ
Sapper
23597
12 Company Royal Engineers
The Queen's South Africa (QSA) Medal Clasps: Wepener, Belfast, Wittebergen, Cape Colony

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 19:51

Army Service Records 1760-1915

First name(s): William James

Last name: STRATFORD

Calculated year of birth: 1870

Parish of birth: Okehampton

Town of birth: Okehampton

County of birth: Devon

Age at attestation: 19 years 6 months

Attestation date: 27 February 1889

Attestation corps: Royal Engineers

Attestation soldier number: 23597

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97 / 6011 / 36

There are 9 images available for this soldier


LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Jan 2012 19:46

Hi Stuart, yes I know what you mean.....think I've come to that brickwall now with regards to the Stratford family; can't seem to get any further back!

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 19:39

Hi Londonbelle,
Sorry, yes I had seen that but not coming up on FMP and I had my head down in find mode. Think we are all cross posting!

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 19:35

?? MAry and first husband 1851 - he is also a Quarryman like Valentine There are deaths of a William Horn 1856 and 1858 in Okehampton RD

1851 census transcription details for: Meldon, Okehampton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1885 Folio: 342 Page: 14

Reg. District: Okehampton Sub District: Okehampton
Parish: Okehampton Enum. District: 3B
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Meldon, Okehampton
County: Devonshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
HORN, William Head Married M 36 1815 Quarry Man Sourton Devonshire
HORN, Mary Wife Married F 39 1812 Quarry Man Wife South Tawton Devonshire
HORN, James Son Unmarried M 13 1838 Quarry Man Son Okehampton Devonshire
HORN, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Quarry Man Daur Sourton Devonshire
HORN, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843 Quarry Man Son Okehampton Devonshire
HORN, John Son Unmarried M 5 1846 Quarry Man Son Okehampton Devonshire
HORN, Alexander Son Unmarried M 2 1849 Quarry Man Son Okehampton Devonshire

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Jan 2012 19:28

Hi Stuart, I think I found Charles in 1861 census it's on page 1, he was an Apprentice Shoemaker

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 19:24

1861 - children of Valentine and Grace not with him and MAry

*Thomas Stratford 21 b 1840 Servant. Carter. To Thomas Bray and family Farmer at Middle Southcott, Okehampton.
There are also John 15 and Alexander 13 both surname HORN both servants

*James 16 b 1845 Servant. Groom to the Gould family at Neithercott, OkehamptonValentine

*Valentine b1848 - DEATH Sep Qtr 1856 Tavistock, Devon 5B 204

CAN"T find Charles though

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Jan 2012 19:05

Grace's death?

Deaths Mar 1854
Stradford Grace Tavistock 5b 261

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 19:01

DEATH - Grace StraDford Mar Qtr 1854 Tavistock, Devon 5B 261

MARRIAGE - Valentine Stratford to Mary Horn Dec Qtr 1858 Okehampton, Devon 5B 663

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 18:59

1861 census - Valentine has a different wife, she is Grace 1841 and 1851

1861 census transcription details for: Cottles Cottage, Meldon Village, Okehampton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 1467 Folio: 17 Page: 11

Reg. District: Okehampton Sub District: 3 Okehampton
Parish: Okehampton Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: Exeter City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Cottles Cottage, Meldon Village, Okehampton
County: Devonshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
STRATFORD, Valentine Head Married M 49 1812 Quarryman Berkshire
STRATFORD, Mary Wife Married F 49 1812 South Tawton Devon
STRATFORD, John Son Unmarried M 10 1851 Scholar Lew Trenchard Devon
STRATFORD, Eliza Daughter In Law Unmarried F 9 1852 Scholar Okehampton Devon
CHUDLEY, William Visitor Unmarried M 65 1796 Ag Labr Okehampton Devon

EDIT Eliza's surname on original is HORN so step daughter - will do a correction

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Jan 2012 18:44

1841 census? for Grandparents

Name: Grace Stratford
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: Lewtrenchard
Hundred: Lifton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Lifton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 232
Book: 4
Folio: 13
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Valentine Stratford 29 occ Lime Quarry Labourer
Grace Stratford 25
Thomas 1

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 18:42


1841 for Grandparents ?

1841 census transcription details for: Lew Down, Lewtrenchard

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 232 Book/Folio: 13 Page: 21


Reg. District: Tavistock Sub District: Lifton
Parish: Lewtrenchard Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Lew Down, Lewtrenchard
County: Devonshire

Name Relation Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
STRATFORD, Valentine M 29 1812 Devon ?? ..... Quarry Labourer
STRATFORD, Grace F 25 1816 Devon
STRATFORD, Thomas M 1 1840 Devon
HORTOP, Richard M 43 1798 Devon
HORTOP, Richard M 8 1833 Devon
HORTOP, William M 6 1835 Devon

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Jan 2012 18:38

1851 census showing ??Father Charles and Grandparents

1851 census transcription details for: Slyers Hill, Lewtrenchard
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1884 Folio: 324 Page: 6

Reg. District: Tavistock Sub District: Lifton
Parish: Lewtrenchard Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Slyers Hill, Lewtrenchard
County: Devonshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation ,Disability Where Born
STRATFORD, Valantine Head Married M 39 1812 Ag Labourer Berkshire
STRATFORD, Grace Wife Married F 35 1816 Lewtrenchard Devonshire
STRATFORD, Thomas Son M 11 1840 Lewtrenchard Devonshire
STRATFORD, Charles Son M 9 1842 Lewtrenchard Devonshire
STRATFORD, James Son M 6 1845 Lewtrenchard Devonshire
STRATFORD, Valantine Son M 3 1848 Lewtrenchard Devonshire
STRATFORD, John Son M 0 (5 MOS) 1851 Lewtrenchard Devonshire


LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Jan 2012 18:37

Father, Charles, in 1851 census?


Name: Charles Stratford
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Valantine Stratford
Mother's Name: Grace Stratford
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Lewtrenchard, Devon, England

Civil parish: Lewtrenchard
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Milton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Piece: 1884
Folio: 324
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Valantine Stratford 39 b (image says Barkshear think most probably Berkshire!) occ Ag Labourer
Grace Stratford 35
Thomas Stratford 11
Charles Stratford 9
James Stratford 6
Valantine Stratford 3
John Stratford 5 Mo

rest of family boarn Lewtrenchard

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 21 Jan 2012 18:32

Father Charles in 1861 census?

Name: Charles Stratford
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Apprentice Shoemaker
Gender: Male
Where born: Lewtrenchard, Devon, England

Civil parish: Stowford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Lifton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Piece: 1464
Folio: 108
Page Number: 5