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LondonBelle
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22 Jan 2012 17:18 |
That information is not going to be available online, Sheila. You would most probably need to get a copy of their death certificates
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22 Jan 2012 12:38 |
Thank you very much everyone for all the info it has answered so many questions. One last thing if William died in1940 Barnstaple and Kate died 1950 Tavistock would you be able to find their addresses where they were living.
Once again thank you for your help.
Sheila
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21 Jan 2012 21:59 |
The 1866 marriage posted on page 1 as a ? between Charles and Elizabeth Yeo would look to be correct as in 1891 Elizabeth has Yeo visitors with her on census (unless it's a coincidence!)
Can't find a suitable Elizabeth Yeo in the 1861 census. THere are 3 in the 1851 - one born Okehampton daughter of William and Jane and 2 born Inwardleigh, just north of Okehampton. It might need her marriage certificate to determine her father to take the Yeo line back.
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21 Jan 2012 20:43 |
1881 - KAte Jane DAFFURN at home in Gloucestershire age 11 1891 - age 21 Kate Jane DAFFORN Housemaid, Domestic Servant to the Barham family @ 1 ST Philips Place, Birmingham 1889-1893 - William on "Home Service" 1893 - 3/1896 - William In Gibraltar
Would guess that at some point he is serving in the Gloucestershire or Birmingham area and meets KAte. They are married not long after his return from Gibraltar. (a good place to serve HM !!) 1881 census transcription details for: ?, Buckland
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 2565 Folio: 126 Page: 3 Reg. District: Winchcomb Sub District: Cleeve Parish: Buckland Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: ?, Buckland County: Gloucestershire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation , Disability Where Born DAFFURN, Alfred Head Widower M 60 1821 Stone MasonLaverton Gloucestershire DAFFURN, Edwin Brother Single M 50 1831 Stone Mason Laverton Gloucestershire DAFFURN, Jemima Daughter Single F 28 1853 Laverton Gloucestershire DAFFURN, Thomas Son Single M 20 1861 Stone Mason Laverton Gloucestershire DAFFURN, William Son Single M 18 1863 Laborer Laverton Gloucestershire DAFFURN, Kate Jane Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Laverton Gloucestershire
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LondonBelle
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21 Jan 2012 20:24 |
That would account for him not being with Kate Jane in 1901 census as he was in South Africa
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21 Jan 2012 20:20 |
Service history Attested(Enlisted) 27.2.1889 - says his trade is CArpenter and has previously served a 5 year apprenticeship in Okehampton with a Mr Geen (it looks like wonder if it means Green). Regiment is Royal Engineers, he is a Sapper 27.2.1889-19.2.93 Home 20.2.93-28.3.96 Gibraltar 29.3.96-7.11.99 Home 8.11.1899- 4.2.02 South Africa (Boer War) 5.2.02-26.2.02 Home
NOK Mother Elizabeth/ Brother Alfred John/ Sisters Mary *Bristol, Glos, Grace, ?, Emma, Elizabeth, Jane East Street, Okehampton
Various medals Discharged at Chatham 26.2.1902 - Trade CArpenter. Intended address c/o Mrs Kent4 Coopers Cottage, Tivoli, Cheltenham. Crossed out under this is 3Victoria Street, Okehampton
Medal Roll National Archives WO 100 series STRATFORD WJ Sapper 23597 12 Company Royal Engineers The Queen's South Africa (QSA) Medal Clasps: Wepener, Belfast, Wittebergen, Cape Colony
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21 Jan 2012 19:51 |
Army Service Records 1760-1915 First name(s): William James
Last name: STRATFORD
Calculated year of birth: 1870
Parish of birth: Okehampton
Town of birth: Okehampton
County of birth: Devon
Age at attestation: 19 years 6 months
Attestation date: 27 February 1889
Attestation corps: Royal Engineers
Attestation soldier number: 23597
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 6011 / 36
There are 9 images available for this soldier
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LondonBelle
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21 Jan 2012 19:46 |
Hi Stuart, yes I know what you mean.....think I've come to that brickwall now with regards to the Stratford family; can't seem to get any further back!
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21 Jan 2012 19:39 |
Hi Londonbelle, Sorry, yes I had seen that but not coming up on FMP and I had my head down in find mode. Think we are all cross posting!
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greyghost
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21 Jan 2012 19:35 |
?? MAry and first husband 1851 - he is also a Quarryman like Valentine There are deaths of a William Horn 1856 and 1858 in Okehampton RD 1851 census transcription details for: Meldon, Okehampton National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1885 Folio: 342 Page: 14 Reg. District: Okehampton Sub District: Okehampton Parish: Okehampton Enum. District: 3B Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Meldon, Okehampton County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HORN, William Head Married M 36 1815 Quarry Man Sourton Devonshire HORN, Mary Wife Married F 39 1812 Quarry Man Wife South Tawton Devonshire HORN, James Son Unmarried M 13 1838 Quarry Man Son Okehampton Devonshire HORN, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 10 1841 Quarry Man Daur Sourton Devonshire HORN, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 8 1843 Quarry Man Son Okehampton Devonshire HORN, John Son Unmarried M 5 1846 Quarry Man Son Okehampton Devonshire HORN, Alexander Son Unmarried M 2 1849 Quarry Man Son Okehampton Devonshire
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LondonBelle
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21 Jan 2012 19:28 |
Hi Stuart, I think I found Charles in 1861 census it's on page 1, he was an Apprentice Shoemaker
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21 Jan 2012 19:24 |
1861 - children of Valentine and Grace not with him and MAry
*Thomas Stratford 21 b 1840 Servant. Carter. To Thomas Bray and family Farmer at Middle Southcott, Okehampton. There are also John 15 and Alexander 13 both surname HORN both servants
*James 16 b 1845 Servant. Groom to the Gould family at Neithercott, OkehamptonValentine
*Valentine b1848 - DEATH Sep Qtr 1856 Tavistock, Devon 5B 204
CAN"T find Charles though
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LondonBelle
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21 Jan 2012 19:05 |
Grace's death?
Deaths Mar 1854 Stradford Grace Tavistock 5b 261
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21 Jan 2012 19:01 |
DEATH - Grace StraDford Mar Qtr 1854 Tavistock, Devon 5B 261
MARRIAGE - Valentine Stratford to Mary Horn Dec Qtr 1858 Okehampton, Devon 5B 663
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21 Jan 2012 18:59 |
1861 census - Valentine has a different wife, she is Grace 1841 and 1851
1861 census transcription details for: Cottles Cottage, Meldon Village, Okehampton National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 1467 Folio: 17 Page: 11 Reg. District: Okehampton Sub District: 3 Okehampton Parish: Okehampton Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District: Exeter City/Municipal Borough: Address: Cottles Cottage, Meldon Village, Okehampton County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born STRATFORD, Valentine Head Married M 49 1812 Quarryman Berkshire STRATFORD, Mary Wife Married F 49 1812 South Tawton Devon STRATFORD, John Son Unmarried M 10 1851 Scholar Lew Trenchard Devon STRATFORD, Eliza Daughter In Law Unmarried F 9 1852 Scholar Okehampton Devon CHUDLEY, William Visitor Unmarried M 65 1796 Ag Labr Okehampton Devon
EDIT Eliza's surname on original is HORN so step daughter - will do a correction
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LondonBelle
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21 Jan 2012 18:44 |
1841 census? for Grandparents
Name: Grace Stratford Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Devon, England Civil parish: Lewtrenchard Hundred: Lifton County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Tavistock Sub-registration district: Lifton Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 232 Book: 4 Folio: 13 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Valentine Stratford 29 occ Lime Quarry Labourer Grace Stratford 25 Thomas 1
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21 Jan 2012 18:42 |
1841 for Grandparents ? 1841 census transcription details for: Lew Down, Lewtrenchard
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 232 Book/Folio: 13 Page: 21
Reg. District: Tavistock Sub District: Lifton Parish: Lewtrenchard Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Lew Down, Lewtrenchard County: Devonshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born STRATFORD, Valentine M 29 1812 Devon ?? ..... Quarry Labourer STRATFORD, Grace F 25 1816 Devon STRATFORD, Thomas M 1 1840 Devon HORTOP, Richard M 43 1798 Devon HORTOP, Richard M 8 1833 Devon HORTOP, William M 6 1835 Devon
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21 Jan 2012 18:38 |
1851 census showing ??Father Charles and Grandparents 1851 census transcription details for: Slyers Hill, Lewtrenchard National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 1884 Folio: 324 Page: 6 Reg. District: Tavistock Sub District: Lifton Parish: Lewtrenchard Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Slyers Hill, Lewtrenchard County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age BirthYear Occupation ,Disability Where Born STRATFORD, Valantine Head Married M 39 1812 Ag Labourer Berkshire STRATFORD, Grace Wife Married F 35 1816 Lewtrenchard Devonshire STRATFORD, Thomas Son M 11 1840 Lewtrenchard Devonshire STRATFORD, Charles Son M 9 1842 Lewtrenchard Devonshire STRATFORD, James Son M 6 1845 Lewtrenchard Devonshire STRATFORD, Valantine Son M 3 1848 Lewtrenchard Devonshire STRATFORD, John Son M 0 (5 MOS) 1851 Lewtrenchard Devonshire
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LondonBelle
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21 Jan 2012 18:37 |
Father, Charles, in 1851 census?
Name: Charles Stratford Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's Name: Valantine Stratford Mother's Name: Grace Stratford Gender: M (Male) Where born: Lewtrenchard, Devon, England Civil parish: Lewtrenchard County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Tavistock Sub-registration district: Milton ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 21 Piece: 1884 Folio: 324 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Valantine Stratford 39 b (image says Barkshear think most probably Berkshire!) occ Ag Labourer Grace Stratford 35 Thomas Stratford 11 Charles Stratford 9 James Stratford 6 Valantine Stratford 3 John Stratford 5 Mo rest of family boarn Lewtrenchard
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LondonBelle
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21 Jan 2012 18:32 |
Father Charles in 1861 census?
Name: Charles Stratford Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Apprentice Shoemaker Gender: Male Where born: Lewtrenchard, Devon, England Civil parish: Stowford County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Tavistock Sub-registration district: Lifton ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 24 Piece: 1464 Folio: 108 Page Number: 5
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