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9 Jan 2012 14:40 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLIAM SMITH REEVES Christening: 22 JUL 1849 Bremhill, Wiltshire, England Parents: Father: HENRY REEVES Mother: ELIZABETH
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Mary
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9 Jan 2012 14:41 |
1861 Bremhill Calne Wilts D2 > 17 Tytherton Thomas Smith 1797 Mary Smith 1801 William Reeves 1850 A/L Emma Reeves 1853 George Reeves 1855 All grandchildren.
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WayneTracey
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9 Jan 2012 14:43 |
hahahahahaha *grrrr* couldn't make it up :-(
1861 RG number: RG09 Piece: 1286 Folio: 24 Page: 14 Reg. District: Calne Sub District: 1 Calne Address: Tytherton, Bremhill County: Wiltshire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SMITH, Thomas Head Married M 64 1797 Ag Lab Shrivenham Berkshire SMITH, Mary Wife Married F 60 1801 Ag Lab Wife Highworth Wiltshire REEVES, William Grandson Unmarried M 11 1850 Ag Lab Bremhill Wiltshire REEVES, Emma Granddaughter Unmarried F 8 1853 Scholar Bremhill Wiltshire REEVES, George Grandson Unmarried M 6 1855 Scholar Bremhill Wiltshire
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2012 14:47 |
I'm sitting here with a fit of the giggles. I think the fates are conspiring against me - having looked at the new info in the above censuses, I now find I add smith to the mix - I couldn't do better really coule I - Smith and Jones !!!!
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Potty
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9 Jan 2012 14:48 |
Possible for 1851 - although the Henry and Elizabeth here are brother and sister:
Name: William Reeves Age: 3 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Grandson Gender: M (Male) Where born: Cotmarsh, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Broad Hinton County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Marlborough Sub-registration district: Marlborough ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 104 Piece: 1838 Folio: 73 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Joannah Reeves 49 Henry Reeves 22 Elizabeth Reeves 19 Daniel Reeves 14 Jane Reeves 10 William Reeves 3 Mo
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WayneTracey
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9 Jan 2012 14:49 |
I would recommend that you get a couple of marriage certs to be able to establish the correct parentage.
If i were you i'd buy, Thomas & Elizabeth's, William & Catherine's marriage certificates.
That way you can be sure of parentage and that you have the right people on the census's.
It's always important to back up what is found for you here with hard facts (certs)
You will need Catherine's Mrg cert to be able to be sure of her father's name and occupation as she was born a Jone's :-(
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Potty
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9 Jan 2012 14:53 |
Another cert to buy?
Marriages Sep 1847 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ARCHARD Jane Gardiner Calne 8 425 CLEVERLY William Calne 8 425 Lane Rebecca Calne 8 425 Ponting Joseph Calne 8 425 Powney Elizabeth Calne 8 425 >>>>>>Reeves Henry Calne 8 425 >>>>>>Smith Elizabeth Calne 8 425 Williams Thomas Calne 8 425
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Potty
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9 Jan 2012 14:56 |
The above marriage (from familysearch). No fathers' names given:
Groom's Name: Henry Reeves Groom's Birth Date: Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: Bride's Name: Elizabeth Smith Bride's Birth Date: Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: Marriage Date: 15 Jul 1847 Marriage Place: Bremhill,Wiltshire,England
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2012 14:59 |
I think you are right about the certs. I've a birthday coming up and I can ask for them as presents !!! I am not being rude, but I have to go offline now for a few hours as I have done nothing today bar search for this family and I need to start preparing the veg etc for dinner. Please don't delete any of this until tomorrow to give me a chance of writing it all down. I am extremely grateful to all of you for getting me through this maze and unscrambling my brain. Thank you very much.
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Mike *
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9 Jan 2012 15:09 |
Bremhill is a small village nestling on a hillside in North Wiltshire, between Calne and Chippenham
Posting these as remotely maybes....
Births Mar 1849 REED William - Chippenham 8 320
Births Jun 1847 Pictor William Smith - Chippenham 8 296
Births Sep 1847 SMITH William - Calne 8 232
Of course, he may not have been registered at all !
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lancashireAnn
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9 Jan 2012 18:03 |
using the alternative scan image that 1859 Dec birth is
William Smith Reeves Durham 10a 248
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Mary
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9 Jan 2012 19:15 |
William Smith Reeves married in Newcastle upon Tyne in 1885 to Rachel Smith or Caroline Ions Dixon.
This is Emma who was with Thomas and Mary Smith in 1861.
Emma Maria Reeves christened7/3/1852 in Foxam born Bremhill by Henry and Elizabeth.
1841 Bremhill D11 > 1 Thomas Smith 1796 not born in County Mary Smith 1801 born in County William 1819 John 1821 Elizabeth 1829.
?? 1851 St mary Cray Kent D49 . 20 James Newman 1796 born Foxham Ruth Newman Henry Reeves married born Foxham 1826 Nephew a Wheelwright Eliza Reeves 1829 married Richard Smith 1830 Kent a lodger.
1871 Foots Cray kent James Newman George Reeves brother in law born @ 1811 a carpenter Elizabeth Reeves 1801 Calne Wilts
Not sure if the above 2 census's are connected to your William Reeves.
Strange he didn't give himself his middle initial in any of the census returns or his marriage.
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9 Jan 2012 19:19 |
If this is correct marriage, then he DID give his middle name
Marriages Sep 1875
GRIMLEY John Bedwelty 11a 141 >>JONES Catherine Bedwelty 11a 141 POWELL Mary Bedwelty 11a 141 >>REEVES William Smith Bedwelty 11a 141
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WayneTracey
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9 Jan 2012 19:55 |
Mike,
That marriage was found a while ago :-)
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Mary
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9 Jan 2012 20:07 |
Thanks Mike I didn't see that,so we have the same guy.
Maryb.
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2012 20:45 |
Thank you very much everyone for your stirling efforts.
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Mike *
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9 Jan 2012 21:43 |
Tracey - You're right but was just re-posting as Mary had missed it.
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lancashireAnn
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9 Jan 2012 22:58 |
so there appear to be 2 William Smith Reeves
1 baptised Wiltshire in 1849
and one
birth registered Durham in 1859
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Flick
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18 Jan 2012 14:57 |
Copied from today's new post
This is a question about a family - Reeves - who I have been helped with previously - thread entitled 'having great difficulty with this lot. However it is quite a long thread and it wilkl be easier for folk to read this one.
To re-cap: I have a William Smith Reeves b, 1850 and his birth indicates that his parents are Henry Reeves and Elizabeth Smith who married 1847 Bremhill, Wiltshire.
On 1851 census William age 3 mths is living with grandparent Joannah Reeves.
On 1861 age 11 he is living, along with siblings Emma 8 and George 6, with grandparents Thomas and Mary Smith. Henry and Elizabeth cannot be found on either of these census although there is both a Henry and Elizabeth Reeves living with Joannah on 1851 census but described as her son and daughter ?? Are they ?
On to the 1871 census and the only Henry Reeves fitting all the criteria is Henry age 40, wife Jane 33 and children Thomas 1862, Henry 1864 both born Gold Field, Australia. I have also found a Mary Jane Reeves b 1860 Lamplow, Australia with father Henry Reeves. The said Henry appears to have returned to England and went on to have further children all born Wiltshire - Edwin G 1866 Broadtown, Julia E 1868 Shaw, Wilts and Charles R, Shaw Wilts.
My questions now are: 1. Did Henry, with or without Elizabeth, emigrate to the gold fields between 1853/4 and say 1860 ? 2. Did Elizabeth possibly die before he went or in Australia.? 3. Did he return because Elizabeth had died out there and he was left with young children ? 4. I have found a marriage for a Henry Reeves to a Jane Weston Mar 1868 reg dist Devizes but this is after the birth of Julia so is probably not the right one. 5. When and where did he marry Jane ? 6. How do I go about finding emigration details for a Henry Reeves and being from Wiltshire which port is he likely to have sailed from................. or could he have been a convict !!!!!
If you have managed to plough through this, I would appreciate any thoughts you may have. All suggestions welcomed. Thank you.
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18 Jan 2012 15:12 |
Point 4
1881 census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Henry REEVES Head W Male 49 Cotmarsh Broadhinton Farm Laborour Mary J. REEVES Daughter U Female 21 Lamplow, Australia Dress Maker Thomas W. REEVES Son U Male 19 Mountain Creek, Australia Farm Labourer Henry J. REEVES Son U Male 17 Babarack Creek, Australia Farm Labourer Edwin G. REEVES Son U Male 15 Cobershall Broad Hinton Farm Labourer Julia E. REEVES Daughter U Female 12 Shaw Lidiard Milbeer Scholar Charles R. REEVES Son U Male 11 Shaw Lidiard Milbeer Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling White Lodge Census Place Purton, Wiltshire, England Family History Library Film 1341488 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2023 / 32 Page Number 1 If this census info has been posted before, I apologise
Buy this......for MMN info
Births Mar 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- REEVES Edwin G Marlbro' 5a 81
Jane was born in Grays, Essex.
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