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Henry Edward Brazier Birth Look Up Please?

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BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 09:40

Hi,

I would like help with the birth of Henry Edward Brazier. I have his army record in my hands and it says he was born in 1889 Kensington. I also have his marriage certificate in my hands which says he was 20 in 1911 with his birthday already passed. He married months after the 1911 census was conveyed. On the 1911 census he is listed as Harry Brazier born 1892 Kensington. On the 1911 census, his marriage cert and army record he is a carman and his dad John Brazier born 1868 Bucks is a fishmonger.

I would like to get Henry/Harry Brazier's birth certificate but can't find a birth for him.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2012 09:46

This is the nearest I can see, searching 1888-1892:

Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
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Brazier Henry Edward St. Saviour 1d 113

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jan 2012 09:48

Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
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Brazier Henry Edward St. Saviour 1d 113


Andy

patchem

patchem Report 8 Jan 2012 09:50

Just posting the 1911 for reference
BRAZIER, Frederick Son Single M 11 1900 School Kennington
BRAZIER, Blanche Daughter F 14 1897 No Work Kennington
BRAZIER, Nova Daughter Single F 16 1895 Factory Hand Kennington
BIGGS, Christina Cousin Single F 23 1888 Manageress General In Westminster
BRAZIER, Selia Daughter F 2 1909 Tooting
BRAZIER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 38 1873 Westminster Lunatic
BRAZIER, John Head Married M 43 1868 Fishmonger Cublingier Bucks
BRAZIER, Harry Son Single M 19 1892 Carman Corntrade Kennington
BRAZIER JUNR, John Son Single M 21 1890 Manager Corn Kennington
RG number: RG14 Piece: 190 Reference: RG14PN190 RG78PN6 RD2 SD3 ED25 SN154
Registration District: Kensington Sub District: Kensington North Enumeration District: 25 Parish: Kensington
Address: 59 Appleton Road North Kensington County: London

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 09:50

Thanks, His army record says he was born late June 1889

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 09:51

Yes that's the 1911 census record.

patchem

patchem Report 8 Jan 2012 09:55

Henry Edward not showing with family in 1891
1891 England Census
John Brazier Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Brazier
Gender: Male Where born: Cubbington, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish: Newington St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Agnes
Town: London County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 355 Folio: 126
Page Number: 30
John Brazier 23
Elizabeth Brazier 21
Francis J Brazier 1 1/12
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 355; Folio 126; Page 30; GSU roll: 6095465.

He lied about his age for the army.

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 8 Jan 2012 09:55

I think that the christening matches the birth nicely, and seems to backup the info you have! Sept 1892 covers all births registered in July, August & September!

There is enough evidence there to support ordering that particular cert!

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 09:58

Patchem, Henry would not be in the 1891 census as he wasn't born then, I think you are right, he lied about his age for the army.

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 10:00

On his army record he has put down that he was born 22/6/1889 in Kensington. On his marriage he says he was born in 1891.

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 10:56

Sorry, after checking 10 times, it says Kennnington Park London.

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 11:13

Kennington Park

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 11:17

I am thinking about getting his death cert, he died 1942 and was 53 so that makes him born in 1889. ????????

Flick

Flick Report 8 Jan 2012 11:18

Kennington Park would be an area of Kennington...............to pinpoint it, look at a detailed map of London

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 11:20

He also would have had no need to lie about his age as he went into the army in 1915 and came out in 1918. He would have been 24 when he entered the army. So he WAS born 1889! (Mystery).

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jan 2012 11:25

His baptism record in 1892 has June 22 written beside it, this was usually the date of birth.

Andy

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 11:26

Andrew, where have you got this from?

Andrew

Andrew Report 8 Jan 2012 12:03

From the image of baptism record (on Ancestry)

Andy

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 12:14

Ok, is there anyway you can send that to me via PM on here?

BradM

BradM Report 8 Jan 2012 17:29

Do you recommend that I get his death cert?