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Gee
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3 Jan 2012 15:51 |
Looks like she is still living and you could contact her if you get the details from here
http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?site_id=10583&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=morley+jane&name=Hoeft&where=
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Gee
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3 Jan 2012 15:46 |
Donnie
This looks like the birth of their daughter
Edit: Ive removed this as she is still living. Will PM it to yuo Donnie
There are two marriages for her the latest being in the 1990s....I'll send them you by PM
This is her second husbands death
Social Security Death Index Name: Robert Gordon Hoeft Last Residence: 97868 Pilot Rock, Umatilla, Oregon Born: 1 Nov 1927 Died: 6 Sep 2009 State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (1955)
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Donnie
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3 Jan 2012 14:38 |
Thanks Gins i will follow that up
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Gee
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3 Jan 2012 10:32 |
I wonder if this is Ethel' remarriage and her death and that of her husband?
England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 Name: Ethel Lockyear Spouse Surname: Robert F Briggs Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935 Registration district: Bournemouth Inferred County: Dorset Volume Number: 2b Page Number: 2097 England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 Name: Ethel Briggs Birth Date: abt 1889 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1965 Age at Death: 76 Registration district: Trowbridge Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 7c Page: 722 England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 Name: Robert F Briggs Birth Date: abt 1888 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1962 Age at Death: 74 Registration district: Trowbridge Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 7c Page: 622
Thinking about it, they were down that end of the country when he went off to the states. Also this would have been very late for a first marriage and birth year matches your Ethel
Got to be worth sending for the marriage certificate
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MarieCeleste
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3 Jan 2012 10:23 |
Good find, Gins!
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Gee
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3 Jan 2012 09:57 |
Donnie Ive added some info to the census I posted yesterday on page one. It looks like Ada was married before and Jarl was in fact Jack!
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Donnie
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3 Jan 2012 08:22 |
MarieCeleste --- Sadley this is all the information I have as Morley was in LA in 1930 when the census was taken I did wonder if their daughter might have been born there. But this is on my assumption that because she was not with them for the census she must have been born after it was taken. Also that they stayed in LA for a while but then in 1941 Morley died in Ohio so I quess she could have been born anywhere.. I guess this is a needle in a haystack
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jan 2012 20:37 |
Donnie - I have a subscription to Ancestry Worldwide. I'm not aware of any free sites, other than FamilySearch - but I've never had much luck on there for US BMDs.
US records are harder to search than ours as they are all grouped by state or county, and not all are available.
Is this to do with the announcement of a daughter that you mentioned? Do you have any further details?
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Donnie
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2 Jan 2012 20:33 |
Thank you MarieCeleste for all your help it is very much appreciated and has given me infirmation i didn't know. Would you be able to tell me of any sites that i would be able to search for a birth in America?
Donnie x
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jan 2012 19:38 |
It's bugging me what happened to Ethel.
Can't find a death. Can't find a divorce (would have been unlikely anyhow). She may have reverted to her maiden name which was King and that's a bit of a needle in a haystack.
Technically, I don't think Morley would have actually been free to re-marry.
Any thoughts - would like to help Donnie clear this up.
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jan 2012 19:34 |
That ties in with what Donnie mentioned:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Ernest C M Lockyear Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1912 Age at Death: 1 Registration district: Chorlton Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 940
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WayneTracey
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2 Jan 2012 18:33 |
I have found this, if it's any help?
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Ernest Cecil Morley Lockyear Name: Ernest Cecil Morley Lockyear Gender: Male Birth Date: 19 Nov 1911 Christening Date: 20 Dec 1911 Christening Place: Radstock, Somersetshire, England Age at Christening: 0 Father's Name: Morley Clifford Lockyear Mother's name: Ethel
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Andrew
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2 Jan 2012 14:18 |
More here
www.gencircles.com/users/giovanna/6/data/10
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Andrew
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2 Jan 2012 14:13 |
This from a site called www.sysoon.com
In Memory of Morley Lockyear (1884 - 1941)
Morley Lockyear is on Sysoon. Personal Death record and Detailed information about the deceased person. [34291233-en]
Share Your Memories and Sympathies and Join the Bereaved!
Date of Birth: ** August 1884
Date of Death: ** February 1941
Social Security Number (SSN): ***-07-4457 ?
Died at Age: 56 years, Lived: 20624 days
Birth Anniversary: in 234 days [+]
Death Anniversary: in 39 days [+]
Andy
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jan 2012 11:53 |
From the Edinburgh Gazette 1909:
http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/12110/pages/85/page.pdf
No idea what it's a list of but I believe this Gazette published insolvencies and bankruptcies.
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jan 2012 11:50 |
This looks like Ada E in 1910:
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Ada E Howard Age in 1910: 14 Birth Year: 1896 Birthplace: Oregon Home in 1910: Baker Ward 3, Baker, Oregon Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Sylvester Howard Father's Birthplace: Oregon Mother's name: Lina Howard Mother's Birthplace: Oregon Household Members: Name Age Sylvester Howard 39 < Laborer (ranch) Lina Howard 33 Ada E Howard 14 Clark S Howard 13
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Donnie
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2 Jan 2012 11:46 |
Hi Maria
I have no idea what happeded to Ethel she and Morley married in Northumberland uk in 1909 they had a son in born in Somerset November 1911 but sadley he died in Chorley Lancashire in 1912. Two years later Morley left for the states I can onlyt assume that Ethel didn't go with him as have found no death for her.What you have found has been very helpful thank you as i had no real idea what happened once he went to America apart from that he had married Ader. I did find a birth announcement for a daughter born to Mr & Mrs Morley Lockyear on the 29th December but have no name or year. I also failed to find a marriage for Ader & Morley. Morley died in Ohio in 1941
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jan 2012 11:43 |
Some additional information from the 1930 census that Gins and Andrew posted:
For Morley Clifford it states he is an engineer and first arrived in US in 1914. In the column for naturalisation it has Pa - so guess that's the state where it happened. Surprisingly, there is a "No" in the column for being a veteran of the US armed forces - Gins has posted his draft registration (unless he was registered but never actually served?). His age at first marriage is given as 27.
For Ada E she is recorded as being born in Oregon and was 20 when she first married.
For Jarl H (I don't think that's right but the writing is bad) he is listed as born in Michigan and is down as step-son to Morley Clifford.
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jan 2012 11:31 |
His birth year seems to vary a bit, but the date is consistent:
Social Security Death Index
Name: Morley Lockyear SSN: 269-07-4457 Born: 23 Aug 1884 Died: Feb 1941 State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951)
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MarieCeleste
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2 Jan 2012 11:26 |
Donnie, do you know whatever became of Ethel Lockyear?
just posting the English 1911 in case we need to refer back:
LOCKYARD, Morley Clifford Head Married M 28 1883 Foreman Of Railway Wagon Works Radstock N K LOCKYARD, Ethel Wife Married 2 years F 21 1890 London Middlesex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registration District: Prestwich Sub District: Newton Heath Enumeration District: 8 Parish: North Manchester Address: 50 Wedgewood St Miles Platting Manchester County: Lancashire
They'd had no children
(Have submitted transcription error report to FMP)
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