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I have found my target Ernest Berry 1896 born Accrington

1901
Berry Ernest 1897 Lancashire Accrington County Borough Of Blackburn, Blackburn

I think his parents are

Berry John R 1869 Lancashire Accrington County Borough Of Blackburn, Blackburn

Berry Martha A 1871 Lancashire Preston County Borough Of Blackburn, Blackburn

Can anybody tell me if there are any other children with them please?

Many thanks,
Frances

1901

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BERRY, John R Head Married M 32 1869 Grocer Shopkeeper
Accrington
Lancashire VIEW
BERRY, Martha A Wife Married F 30 1871
Preston
Lancashire VIEW
BERRY, Louisa May Daughter F 5 1896 Scholar
Blackburn
Lancashire VIEW
BERRY, Ernest Son M 4 1897 Scholar
Accrington
Lancashire VIEW
ASHWORTH, Margaret Mother-In-Law Widow F 70 1831 Retired Draper
Clitheroe
Lancashire VIEW

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Piece:
3907 Folio:
35 Page:
20 Registration District:
Blackburn

Civil Parish:
Blackburn Municipal Borough:
Address:
39, Montague Street, Blackburn County:
Lancashire


Regards Vera

1911?

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BERRY, Ernest
Address: Alder House Sefton Road Sandylands Morecambe


WATSON, Arthur Head Married M 49 1862 Photographer Lancashire Accrington VIEW
WATSON, Annie Maria Wife Married
27 years F 48 1863 Lancashire Blackburn VIEW
WATSON, Stella Tryphena Daughter Single F 26 1885 Lancashire Clayton Le Moors VIEW
LINE, Sarah Katharine Boarder Single F 45 1866 Photographers Assistant Northamptonshire West Haddon VIEW
BERRY, Ernest Nephew Single M 14 1897 Photographers Assistant Lancashire Accrington VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25520 Reference:
RG14PN25520 RG78PN1460 RD479 SD2 ED11 SN87

Do you have 1911?

1911 England Census
about Martha Annie Berry Name: Martha Annie Berry
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Preston, Lancaster, England
Civil parish: Brighouse
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 66 Elland Road Brighouse
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Halifax
Registration District Number: 496
Sub-registration district: Brighouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 26388
Household Members: Name Age
John Robinson Berry 42
Martha Annie Berry 40
Louisa May Berry 15

Original says 2 children born, both still living.

also 1911

1911 census - household transcription
Person: BERRY, Martha Annie
Address: 66 Elland Road Brighouse

BERRY, John Robinson Head Married M 42 1869 Grocers Manager Lanc Accrington VIEW
BERRY, Martha Annie Wife Married
16 years F 40 1871 Lanc Preston VIEW
BERRY, Louisa May Daughter Single F 15 1896 School Lanc Blackburn VIEW

TWO children born........TWO living

Thank you Vera, especially for the MIL. She must have got married again after her first husband Francis Grime died in 1879! I must check that out....

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
ASHWORTH Richard Wood Blackburn
Grime Margaret Blackburn 8e 466

Marriages Mar 1895 (>99%)
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Baildon Arthur Rufus Blackburn 8e 571
>>>>>>>Berry John Robinson Blackburn 8e 571
Bertwistle Mary Alice Blackburn 8e 571
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Grime Martha Annie Blackburn 8e 571


Regards Vera



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Marriages Sep 1883 (>99

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DUCKWORTH Annie Maria Blackburn 8e 505 <<<<<<<<<
HARDIE James Blackburn 8e 505
Hargreaves Eliza Blackburn 8e 505
WATSON Arthur Blackburn 8e 505 <<<<<<<<<

Hi Flick and Margee, youv'e done it to me again. I must be a very slow typist !

I found the 1911 for John Robinson, Martha Annie with Louisa all in Halifax but no Ernest but all their places of birth were correct.
I thought I found my Ernest in Lancaster in 1911 but the only other Berry family showing up are

MILITARY BERRY ALFRED 1880 31 Overseas Military
MILITARY BERRY GEORGE 1887 24 Overseas Military

From the 1881 for John T (mistranscription?) there are brothers Arthur and George with the correct dates so I was assuming Ernest was near his uncles?
I didn't see one in Morecambe??

CORRECTION The military guys above are not the right dates - I must have been in an alcoholic daze when I found them 10 years adrift....

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Richard Wood Ashworth
Name: Richard Wood Ashworth
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1891
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Blackburn
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 237

Thank you for the marriages PricklyHolly, Vera and Flick but I haven't seen any Duckworths or Watsons associated with these ancestors so far.

CORRECTION The military guys above are not the right dates - I must have been in an alcoholic daze when I found them 10 years adrift....

I am just wondering if he is the Nephew to the person above him on the 1911....

Sarah Katherine Line??

Nice idea PricklyHolly but not easy to follow as Sarah is single and from Northants. perhaps because they are both photographic boarders this 'relationship' has been assumed?

Sarah is with the Watson's in 1901.....so i doubt the relationship was assumed?

1901 England Census about Sarah K Line
Name: Sarah K Line
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: West Haddon, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Heysham
Ecclesiastical parish: Heysham St Peter
Town: Heysham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Heaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 116
Piece: 3986
Folio: 118
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Watson 39 (Photogragher)
Annie M Watson 38
Stella T Watson 16
Hannah Watson 80 (Widowed Mother)
Sarah K Line 35
John J Goddard 26

PricklyHolly you are going to have me puzzling all afternoon trying to get to the bottom of this - finding a Berry or Grime connection to Watson or Duckworth...

If i figure something out.........i will get back to you!!

Lol :-D

Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1895
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BERRY Louisa May Blackburn Northern Blackburn GRIME BN/38/13

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1896
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BERRY Ernest Accrington Preston GRIME ACC/91/100

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1895
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BERRY John Robinson GRIME Martha Annie Blackburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackburn RM/124/22
[Pre-1898, the registrar would have to attend all non-conformist marrs as well as rego office marrs.
After that, it was just RC marrs plus rego office marrs (thru 1980-ish)]

This looks likely

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WATSON Arthur Accrington Preston BERRY ACC/21/61

Marriages Sep 1856 (>99%)
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Berry Hannah Haslingden 8e 117
GREGORY Elizabeth Haslingden 8e 117
SLATER Thomas Haslingden 8e 117
WATSON Daniel Haslingden 8e 117


Confirmed by LANCSBMD

Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BERRY Hannah WATSON Daniel Accrington, St James Preston CE6/2/358