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Miriam Meux born c. 1890-99

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Catherine

Catherine Report 21 Dec 2011 08:36

Can anybody help me?!!! Miriam Meux would have been my great-grandmother. She had my Grandmother out of wedlock and subsequently fostered. Miriam went back for her when she was about 2 to take her to America with her but unfortunately my Grandmother didn't want to leave her foster parents so Miriam left her in England. I don't know anything about her but can only assume she was in service in the South-East of the UK. I know nothing more than that. Did she go to America and marry and have a family, was she married before she left, did she indeed leave England? Please, anybody out there related to me? It's been many years, my mother has never wanted to persue her family history but now at the age of nearly 70 has decided she might like to know!!!!

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Dec 2011 08:41

Might help get you started:

1911:
CHESTER, Henry Thomas Head Married M 24 1887 Baker Tunbridge Wells VIEW
CHESTER, Ethel Maud Wife Married
1 years F 25 1886 Orpington Kent VIEW
MEUX, Miriam Maid Single F 17 1894 Maid Domestic Folkestone VIEW
CHESTER, Thora Ethel Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Feltham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6730 Reference:
RG14PN6730 RG78PN335 RD126 SD1 ED6 SN40

Registration District:
Staines Sub District:
Sunbury Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Feltham

Address:
42 High St Feltham County:
Middlesex

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 09:05

I was going suggest you followed Miriams siblings lines and see if anyone knew, but that said, I cant see her birth, let alone siblings!

She went by the name of MEUX in 1911 and was only 17, so I doubt she'd been married - not impossible but unlikely

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 09:10

I wonder if this is her birth?

Births Jun 1893
Mew Miriam Elham 2a 1006a <<<<

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 09:11

hanging on a hunch here...

Births Jun 1893
Mew Miriam Elham 2a 1006a

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Births Jun 1895
Mew Florence Louis Elham 2a 1029

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Births Mar 1897 Mew Thomas William Elham 2a 1036

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Births Mar 1919
Mew Peter I D O Mew Elham 2a 1512

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Dec 2011 09:14

I presume that this is your grandmothers birth registration:

Births Jun 1916
Meux Doris L R Meux Dartford 2a 1161

If her mother visited the foster parents when her daughter was about 2 years old then presumably she was still in the UK until at least 1918.

As Penny has said there does not appear to be a birth registration of a Miriam Meux in the Thanet registration district c1894. There does not appear to be a marriage or death of a Miriam Meux in England or Wales either. I haven't got a subscription to FMP but from the free search of the passengers leaving the UK there is only one Meux showing but the birth year indicated (1868) means that unless there was a serious clerical error this could not have been Miriam.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 21 Dec 2011 09:17

I wonder???

Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
French Ernest J Mew Dartford 2a 1222
Mew Miriam French Dartford 2a 1222

N.B. Just checked the original of the 1911 census that I posted. The birth place of Folkestone for Miriam appears in a totally different hand and ink colour to the rest of writing on the form which is curious. The form was not signed by the head of house, Mr Chester but by someone on his behalf, I.E. Per pro.

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 09:55

Oh that is interesting find Jonsey.

Maybe she didnt go to America-

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 09:58

wonder if Florence French MMn Mew has any descendants?

Births Sep 1919
French Florence F Mew Dartford 2a 928


Might be worth Chasing?

Just because it kinda follows really

Marriages Mar 1938 (>99%)
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Biers Robert H Stevens Dartford 2a 1303
French Florence M Wretham Dartford 2a 1303 <<<
Stevens Ellen M Biers Dartford 2a 1303
Wretham Henry French Dartford 2a 1303 <<

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 10:02

Getting on in years - but possibly still alive??

Births Mar 1944
WRETHAM Richard French Dartford 2a 1871

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Births Sep 1946
Wretham Percy W French Dartford 5b 879


The name RICHARD WRETHAM features on a GR tree - owner Elizabeth.
Percy Doesn't

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 21 Dec 2011 10:36

1901 ?...

MEW, Walter W Head Married M 34 1867 Farrier
Lewes
Sussex
MEW, Rose Wife Married F 37 1864
Lewes
Sussex
MEW, Seth W Son Single M 11 1890
Eastbourne
Sussex
MEW, Henry R Son Single M 9 1892
Folkestone
Kent
MEW, Marian Daughter Single F 7 1894
Folkestone
Kent
MEW, Florence L Daughter Single F 6 1895
Folkestone
Kent
MEW, Thomas W Son Single M 4 1897
Folkestone
Kent
MEW, Daisy L Daughter Single F 2 1899
Chelsfield
Kent
JARVIS, Charles F Son Single M 17 1884 General Labourer
Newcastle
Northumberland
JARVIS, Robert B Son Single M 15 1886 Milk Cart Driver
Newcastle
Northumberland
JARVIS, William A Son Single M 14 1887 Stable Boy
Newcastle
Northumberland
JARVIS, Rose A Daughter Single F 12 1889
Portsmouth
Hampshire

Piece:
696 Folio:
37 Page:
22 Registration District:
Dartford

Civil Parish:
Bexley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Flora Cottage, Lion Road, Bexley County:
Kent

Chris :)


1911 (Parents)

MEUX, Walter Head Married M 44 1867 Blacksmith Lewes Sussex
MEUX, Rose Wife Married
22 years F 47 1864 Lewes Sussex
MEUX, Florence L Daughter Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Folkeston Kent
MEUX, Thomas W Son Single M 14 1897 Barber Assistant Folkeston Kent
MEUX, Daisy L Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Chelsfield Kent
MEUX, Sarah M Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Bexleyheath Kent
MEUX, Edyna V Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Bexleyheath Kent
MEUX, Augustas P S Son Single M 4 1907 School Bexleyheath Kent
JARVIS, Fredwick Grandson Single M 2 1909 Bexleyheath Kent

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3728 Reference:
RG14PN3728 RG78PN141 RD43 SD1 ED8 SN96

Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Bexley Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Bexley

Address:
3 Stanley Terrace Pincott Road Bexleyheath County:
Kent

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 10:55

so are we thinking Marion Mew and Miriam Meux are one and the same lady?

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 10:57

Oh that is wierd!

Forraging around in Mew births , Augustace was Augustas PERCY! Mew

So when his sister Miriam/Marion married she named her son after her brother

or is that me making two and two make 5?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Dec 2011 11:01

The 1911 states 7 children born and living............so "Marian" is the one of the children missing.
So it would seem that Miriam has been mistranscribed as Marian in the 1901.




Edit: Although the 1911 states 7 children born and living........comparing the 1901 with the 1911, 2 other children are missing...Seth and Henry.

A total of 9 Mew children then??

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Dec 2011 11:15

1891 England Census about Leth W Mew
Name: Leth W Mew
[Seth Mew]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter N Mew
Mother's Name: Rose Mew
Gender: Male
Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Eastbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 774
Folio: 135
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter N Mew 34
Rose Mew 25
Leth W Mew 1
Charles F Jarvis 7
Robert B Jarvis 5
William A Jarvis 4
Rose A Jarvis 2

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Dec 2011 11:17

Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%)
Jarvis Rose Lewes 2b 298
Mew Walter Warr Lewes 2b 298


A possible first marriage for Rose....

??
Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
CROUCH Rose Hailsham 2b 193
Jarvis Charles Bowrin Hailsham 2b 193

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Dec 2011 11:21

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)
Mew Walter Warr Lewes 2b 169


So why would they change thier name to Meux in 1911?? :-S

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Dec 2011 11:24

Ahhh, look at the name's here!! (Mistranscribed as New)


Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Seth NEW Head M Male 34 Macefield, Sussex, England Printer & Compositor Machine Foreman
Miriam NEW Wife M Female 34 Lewes, Sussex, England
Walter W. NEW Son Male 14 Lewes, Sussex, England Errand Boy
Sarah A.E. NEW Daur Female 13 Lewes, Sussex, England Scholar
Thomas W. NEW Son Male 11 Lewes, Sussex, England Scholar
Henry E. NEW Son Male 8 Lewes, Sussex, England Scholar
Percy R. NEW Son Male 5 Lewes, Sussex, England Scholar
Lilian M. NEW Daur Female 4 Lewes, Sussex, England
James E. NEW Son Male 3 Lewes, Sussex, England
Emily L. NEW Daur Female 1 Lewes, Sussex, England

Source Information:
Dwelling Eastgate St
Census Place Lewes All Sts, Sussex, England



1871 England Census about Walter Mew
Name: Walter Mew
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Seth Mew
Mother's Name: Miriam Mew
Gender: Male
Where born: Lewes, Sussex, England
Civil parish: St John
Town: Lewes
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Lewes
Sub-registration district: Lewes
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 192
Piece: 1067
Folio: 78
Page Number: 37
Household Members:
Name Age
Seth Mew 24
Miriam Mew 24
Sarah A E Mew 3
Thomas W Mew 1
Ellen F Mew 17
Walter Mew 4

Penny

Penny Report 21 Dec 2011 11:29

Miriam...seth...percy -

Got to be onto something, havent we?

Cathrine.................................!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 21 Dec 2011 11:30

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
Breach Miriam Brighton 2b 355
MEW Seth Brighton 2b 355 Scan available - click to view