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Catherine
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21 Dec 2011 08:36 |
Can anybody help me?!!! Miriam Meux would have been my great-grandmother. She had my Grandmother out of wedlock and subsequently fostered. Miriam went back for her when she was about 2 to take her to America with her but unfortunately my Grandmother didn't want to leave her foster parents so Miriam left her in England. I don't know anything about her but can only assume she was in service in the South-East of the UK. I know nothing more than that. Did she go to America and marry and have a family, was she married before she left, did she indeed leave England? Please, anybody out there related to me? It's been many years, my mother has never wanted to persue her family history but now at the age of nearly 70 has decided she might like to know!!!!
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Jonesey
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21 Dec 2011 08:41 |
Might help get you started:
1911: CHESTER, Henry Thomas Head Married M 24 1887 Baker Tunbridge Wells VIEW CHESTER, Ethel Maud Wife Married 1 years F 25 1886 Orpington Kent VIEW MEUX, Miriam Maid Single F 17 1894 Maid Domestic Folkestone VIEW CHESTER, Thora Ethel Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Feltham VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 6730 Reference: RG14PN6730 RG78PN335 RD126 SD1 ED6 SN40 Registration District: Staines Sub District: Sunbury Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Feltham Address: 42 High St Feltham County: Middlesex
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 09:05 |
I was going suggest you followed Miriams siblings lines and see if anyone knew, but that said, I cant see her birth, let alone siblings!
She went by the name of MEUX in 1911 and was only 17, so I doubt she'd been married - not impossible but unlikely
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 09:10 |
I wonder if this is her birth?
Births Jun 1893 Mew Miriam Elham 2a 1006a <<<<
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 09:11 |
hanging on a hunch here...
Births Jun 1893 Mew Miriam Elham 2a 1006a
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1895 Mew Florence Louis Elham 2a 1029
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1897 Mew Thomas William Elham 2a 1036
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1919 Mew Peter I D O Mew Elham 2a 1512
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Jonesey
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21 Dec 2011 09:14 |
I presume that this is your grandmothers birth registration:
Births Jun 1916 Meux Doris L R Meux Dartford 2a 1161
If her mother visited the foster parents when her daughter was about 2 years old then presumably she was still in the UK until at least 1918.
As Penny has said there does not appear to be a birth registration of a Miriam Meux in the Thanet registration district c1894. There does not appear to be a marriage or death of a Miriam Meux in England or Wales either. I haven't got a subscription to FMP but from the free search of the passengers leaving the UK there is only one Meux showing but the birth year indicated (1868) means that unless there was a serious clerical error this could not have been Miriam.
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Jonesey
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21 Dec 2011 09:17 |
I wonder???
Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%) French Ernest J Mew Dartford 2a 1222 Mew Miriam French Dartford 2a 1222
N.B. Just checked the original of the 1911 census that I posted. The birth place of Folkestone for Miriam appears in a totally different hand and ink colour to the rest of writing on the form which is curious. The form was not signed by the head of house, Mr Chester but by someone on his behalf, I.E. Per pro.
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 09:55 |
Oh that is interesting find Jonsey.
Maybe she didnt go to America-
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 09:58 |
wonder if Florence French MMn Mew has any descendants?
Births Sep 1919 French Florence F Mew Dartford 2a 928
Might be worth Chasing?
Just because it kinda follows really
Marriages Mar 1938 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Biers Robert H Stevens Dartford 2a 1303 French Florence M Wretham Dartford 2a 1303 <<< Stevens Ellen M Biers Dartford 2a 1303 Wretham Henry French Dartford 2a 1303 <<
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 10:02 |
Getting on in years - but possibly still alive??
Births Mar 1944 WRETHAM Richard French Dartford 2a 1871
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1946 Wretham Percy W French Dartford 5b 879
The name RICHARD WRETHAM features on a GR tree - owner Elizabeth. Percy Doesn't
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Chris Ho :)
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21 Dec 2011 10:36 |
1901 ?... MEW, Walter W Head Married M 34 1867 Farrier Lewes Sussex MEW, Rose Wife Married F 37 1864 Lewes Sussex MEW, Seth W Son Single M 11 1890 Eastbourne Sussex MEW, Henry R Son Single M 9 1892 Folkestone Kent MEW, Marian Daughter Single F 7 1894 Folkestone Kent MEW, Florence L Daughter Single F 6 1895 Folkestone Kent MEW, Thomas W Son Single M 4 1897 Folkestone Kent MEW, Daisy L Daughter Single F 2 1899 Chelsfield Kent JARVIS, Charles F Son Single M 17 1884 General Labourer Newcastle Northumberland JARVIS, Robert B Son Single M 15 1886 Milk Cart Driver Newcastle Northumberland JARVIS, William A Son Single M 14 1887 Stable Boy Newcastle Northumberland JARVIS, Rose A Daughter Single F 12 1889 Portsmouth Hampshire Piece: 696 Folio: 37 Page: 22 Registration District: Dartford Civil Parish: Bexley Municipal Borough: Address: Flora Cottage, Lion Road, Bexley County: Kent Chris :)
1911 (Parents) MEUX, Walter Head Married M 44 1867 Blacksmith Lewes Sussex MEUX, Rose Wife Married 22 years F 47 1864 Lewes Sussex MEUX, Florence L Daughter Single F 16 1895 General Servant Domestic Folkeston Kent MEUX, Thomas W Son Single M 14 1897 Barber Assistant Folkeston Kent MEUX, Daisy L Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Chelsfield Kent MEUX, Sarah M Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Bexleyheath Kent MEUX, Edyna V Daughter Single F 5 1906 School Bexleyheath Kent MEUX, Augustas P S Son Single M 4 1907 School Bexleyheath Kent JARVIS, Fredwick Grandson Single M 2 1909 Bexleyheath Kent RG number: RG14 Piece: 3728 Reference: RG14PN3728 RG78PN141 RD43 SD1 ED8 SN96 Registration District: Dartford Sub District: Bexley Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Bexley Address: 3 Stanley Terrace Pincott Road Bexleyheath County: Kent
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 10:55 |
so are we thinking Marion Mew and Miriam Meux are one and the same lady?
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 10:57 |
Oh that is wierd!
Forraging around in Mew births , Augustace was Augustas PERCY! Mew
So when his sister Miriam/Marion married she named her son after her brother
or is that me making two and two make 5?
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PricklyHolly
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21 Dec 2011 11:01 |
The 1911 states 7 children born and living............so "Marian" is the one of the children missing. So it would seem that Miriam has been mistranscribed as Marian in the 1901.
Edit: Although the 1911 states 7 children born and living........comparing the 1901 with the 1911, 2 other children are missing...Seth and Henry.
A total of 9 Mew children then??
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PricklyHolly
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21 Dec 2011 11:15 |
1891 England Census about Leth W Mew Name: Leth W Mew [Seth Mew] Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Son Father's Name: Walter N Mew Mother's Name: Rose Mew Gender: Male Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England Civil parish: Eastbourne Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Eastbourne County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Eastbourne Sub-registration district: Eastbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 774 Folio: 135 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Walter N Mew 34 Rose Mew 25 Leth W Mew 1 Charles F Jarvis 7 Robert B Jarvis 5 William A Jarvis 4 Rose A Jarvis 2
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PricklyHolly
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21 Dec 2011 11:17 |
Marriages Sep 1889 (>99%) Jarvis Rose Lewes 2b 298 Mew Walter Warr Lewes 2b 298
A possible first marriage for Rose....
?? Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%) CROUCH Rose Hailsham 2b 193 Jarvis Charles Bowrin Hailsham 2b 193
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PricklyHolly
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21 Dec 2011 11:21 |
Births Mar 1867 (>99%) Mew Walter Warr Lewes 2b 169
So why would they change thier name to Meux in 1911?? :-S
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PricklyHolly
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21 Dec 2011 11:24 |
Ahhh, look at the name's here!! (Mistranscribed as New)
Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Seth NEW Head M Male 34 Macefield, Sussex, England Printer & Compositor Machine Foreman Miriam NEW Wife M Female 34 Lewes, Sussex, England Walter W. NEW Son Male 14 Lewes, Sussex, England Errand Boy Sarah A.E. NEW Daur Female 13 Lewes, Sussex, England Scholar Thomas W. NEW Son Male 11 Lewes, Sussex, England Scholar Henry E. NEW Son Male 8 Lewes, Sussex, England Scholar Percy R. NEW Son Male 5 Lewes, Sussex, England Scholar Lilian M. NEW Daur Female 4 Lewes, Sussex, England James E. NEW Son Male 3 Lewes, Sussex, England Emily L. NEW Daur Female 1 Lewes, Sussex, England
Source Information: Dwelling Eastgate St Census Place Lewes All Sts, Sussex, England
1871 England Census about Walter Mew Name: Walter Mew Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: Seth Mew Mother's Name: Miriam Mew Gender: Male Where born: Lewes, Sussex, England Civil parish: St John Town: Lewes County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Lewes Sub-registration district: Lewes ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 192 Piece: 1067 Folio: 78 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Seth Mew 24 Miriam Mew 24 Sarah A E Mew 3 Thomas W Mew 1 Ellen F Mew 17 Walter Mew 4
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Penny
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21 Dec 2011 11:29 |
Miriam...seth...percy -
Got to be onto something, havent we?
Cathrine.................................!
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PricklyHolly
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21 Dec 2011 11:30 |
Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%) Breach Miriam Brighton 2b 355 MEW Seth Brighton 2b 355 Scan available - click to view
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