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Rachel Fenn m. Edward Fenn c.1859 - maiden name?

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Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 20:24

1871

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

ROUT, Elizabeth Daughter F 20 1851 Norfolk VIEW
ROUT, Mary A Daughter F 15 1856 Norfolk VIEW
ROUT, Amelia Daughter F 7 1864 Norfolk VIEW
Piece:
1807 Folio:
137 Page:
16 Registration District:
Norwich

Civil Parish:
St Michael At Coslany Municipal Borough:
Norwich Address:
Rosemary Lane, East Side, St Michael At Coslany, Norwich County:
Norfolk

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 20:21

Name: FENN, Edward
Registration District: Help Norwich
County: Norfolk
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 4B
Page No: Help 302A

Name: ROUT, Mary Ann
Registration District: Norwich
County: Norfolk
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 4B
Page No: 302A
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Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 20:18

1871

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

KINLY, Alfred Head M 57 1814 Norfolk VIEW
KINLY, Emily Wife F 63 1808 Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Edward Nephew M 12 1859 Norfolk VIEW
Piece:
1821 Folio:
100 Page:
15 Registration District:
Norwich

Civil Parish:
Heigham Municipal Borough:
Norwich Address:
Tinkler's Lane, Heigham, Norwich County:
Norfolk

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 20:16

1861 ?????????????

ame Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

FENN, Emmeline Head Unmarried F 27 1834 Laundress
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Edward Son M 2 1859
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Helen Cousin F 9 1852
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
Piece:
1220 Folio:
68 Page:
6 Registration District:
Norwich

Civil Parish:
Heigham Municipal Borough:
Norwich Address:
Westminster Road, Heigham, Norwich County:
Norfolk

Rachel

Rachel Report 13 Dec 2011 20:15

Thanks Lesley!

Wow five boys...goodness me!

Is there any way of finding out who Edward and Mary's parents might have been? That would be fantastic!

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 20:03

Looks as though Edward was the eldest
1881

ame Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

FENN, Edward Head Married M 22 1859 Currier & Levant Dresser
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Mary Ann Wife Married F 25 1856 Tailoress
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Edward A Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, William H Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
ROUT, William J Brother In Law Single M 15 1866 General Labourer
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
Piece:
1952 Folio:
119 Page:
22 Registration District:
Norwich

Civil Parish:
Norwich Heigham Municipal Borough:
Address:
Russell Street, Norwich Heigham County:
Norfolk

Rachel

Rachel Report 13 Dec 2011 20:00

Thanks so much Lesley - I have no idea which one she'd be, so I'll have to check with my Granddad. Those names are really useful as I'm sure Granddad will know his aunt and uncles names if he didn't know his grandparents.

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 20:00

1891

FENN, Edward Head Married M 32 1859 Currier
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Mary A Wife Married F 34 1857
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Edward A Son Single M 15 1876 Grocers Errand Boy
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, William H Son Single M 13 1878 Scholar
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Sydney A Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Reginald V Son Single M 4 1887 Scholar
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
FENN, Archibald E Son Single M 1 1890
Norwich
Norfolk VIEW
Piece:
1532 Folio:
36 Page:
71 Registration District:
Norwich

Civil Parish:
Norwich Municipal Borough:
Norwich Address:
54, Russell Street, Norwich County:
Norfolk

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 19:54

1911

NELSON, Arthur Head Married M 29 1882 Invalid Norfolk VIEW
NELSON, Ellen Wife Married F 30 1881 City of London VIEW
NELSON, Samuel Son M 9 1902 School London Hackney VIEW
NELSON, May Daughter F 8 1903 School Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Ellen Daughter F 6 1905 School Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Arthur Son M 5 1906 School Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Robert Son M 1 1910 Norfolk Norwich VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11276 Reference:
RG14PN11276 RG78PN613 RD225 SD1 ED22 SN378

Registration District:
Norwich Sub District:
East Wymer Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
Norwich

Address:
50 Rackham Road County:
Norfolk

BRITCHER, Thomas Head Married M 63 1848 Bricklayers Labourer Norolk St Faiths VIEW
BRITCHER, Susannah Wife Married
38 years F 62 1849 Norfolk St Faiths VIEW
BRITCHER, William Son Single M 23 1888 Confectionery Worker Norflk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Charles Son In Law Married M 30 1881 Bricklayer Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Emily Daughter Married
10 years F 30 1881 Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Beatrice Granddaughter F 10 1901 School Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Florence Granddaughter F 8 1903 Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Ellen Granddaughter F 6 1905 Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Alice Granddaughter F 4 1907 Norfolk Norwich VIEW
NELSON, Hilda Granddaughter F 1 1910 Norfolk Norwich VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11307 Reference:
RG14PN11307 RG78PN614 RD225 SD2 ED18 SN208

Registration District:
Norwich Sub District:
West Wymer Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
Norwich

Address:
16 Home St Norwich County:
Norfolk

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 13 Dec 2011 19:51

Rachel there are two Ellen E Nelson's born Norfolk around 1906

Name: NELSON, Ellen Emily
Registration District: Help Norwich
County: Norfolk
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 4B
Page No: Help 121



Name: NELSON, Ellen Elizabeth
Registration District: Help Norwich
County: Norfolk
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 4B
Page No: Help 155

Rachel

Rachel Report 13 Dec 2011 19:32

Well ladies, since you asked...you'll regret it now!!

Rachel's husband, Edward Fenn, b. 1876 - his parents were Edward Fenn b. 1859 and Mary Rout b. 1856, both in Norwich.

I'd love to be able to trace any siblings Edward (b.1876) may have had, as well as the parents and siblings of his parents Edward and Mary.

I've also hit a wall with my great grandmother Ellen Nelson - she married my great granddad Arthur Fenn (b.1906) in Norwich in 1927 but I can't trace her birth at all.

Thank you so so much for your help, I really do appreciate it!! x

Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2011 19:09

You are very welcome Rachel - just let us know what else you need!

Dea Xxx

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Dec 2011 18:54

Glad to be able to help Rachel.
Anything else you need?
Regards
Catherine

Rachel

Rachel Report 13 Dec 2011 11:08

Catherine, thank you so much for your help too - I am so grateful for all your research. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me - you are wonderful!

Rachel

Rachel Report 13 Dec 2011 11:07

Dea, you are magnificent, thank you! That's really interesting about the paper making, and also really sad that William's mum and sister died so young...I'd never have been able to find all this out on my own, so I really am incredibly grateful. My granddad is going to be over the moon when I show him all this information about his ancestors!

Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2011 10:38

I think that both Sophia's died - this is the other one:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Sophia Hansell
Name: Sophia Hansell
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1857
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 121

A tree on Ancestry suggests that the 1857 one is the mother and the 1851 the daughter.

Dea x

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Dec 2011 10:29

The death would seem to be that of his wife Sophia as it looks like William remarried in 1858:-

Marriages Jun 1858 (>99%)
Garner Alfred Norwich 4b 268
xxxx Hansell William * 4b 268
xxxx Siston Sarah Norwich 4b 268

..........then again there is this death also:-
Deaths Dec 1857 (>99%)
Hansell Sophia Norwich 4b 121

..........but either way the marriage would still fit.

The couple in 1861:-
Name: William Hensell
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hensell
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich

Civil parish: Norwich Lakenham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Cherry Street

Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 1216
Folio: 64
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hensell 29
Sarah Hensell 25
William Hensell 8


The couple in 1871:-
Name: William Hansell
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hansell
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Civil parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Lakenham
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Mancroft
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 145
Piece: 1815
Folio: 62
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hansell 39
Sarah Hansell 36
William Liston 17 - Stepson born: abt 1854 Blofield, Norfolk, England

...........so looks like Sarah had a son when the couple married.

Births Dec 1853 (>99%)
SISTON William Blofield 4b 154

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Dec 2011 10:15

Sorry, had to leave for a while.

This looks to be William and Sophia in 1851:-

1851 England Census about William Hansell
Name: William Hansell
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia Hansell
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Norwich St Julian
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Cockley Lane

Occupation: Coal Porter

Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Conisford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 1814
Folio: 238
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hansell 19
Sophia Hansell 18 born: Norwich, Norfolk, England (occupation looks like:- Glover)
Sophia Hansell 7 MO

possible death for Sophia, but which one?

Name: Sophia Hansell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1851
Registration district: Norwich
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 13
Page: 169

Dea

Dea Report 13 Dec 2011 10:01

You will note that William was employed as a Paper Maker in Norfolk and also when he moved to Bury.

Bury at that time had a huge paper making industry and so I suppose that William moved up there for that reason.

Maybe the Mill where he had worked had closed and there would be a lot of opportunities for him to gain employment in Bury.

Looks possible though that he, or his wife, did not like it too much though as they returned to their 'home town' and he became a Fish Hawker.

Dea x

Rachel

Rachel Report 13 Dec 2011 09:24

Thank you so much everyone, this information is wonderful! I really appreciate the time taken to dig all of this up - and to get maiden names too!

I was confused about the Lancashire birth as my granddad's side of the family should have all been Norfolk born...I wonder what they were doing up there?! A mystery!

Thanks again - I can't wait to see what else I can find now!