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12 Dec 2011 21:18 |
I am pretty sure this is the Emma Herbert I am looking for
1901 census Emma Herbert- 8 -Yorks Denaby Main -West Riding Yorkshire -Brayton Entire - Juvenile
Please can someone post me the details of the household in 1901 and also 1911 if possible Thanks.
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Vera
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12 Dec 2011 21:20 |
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLARKE, Charles Head Married M 51 1850 Foreman On Farm Coniby Lincolnshire VIEW CLARKE, Ellen Wife Married F 47 1854 Wendon Essex VIEW HERBERT, Emma Grand Daughter F 8 1893 Denaby Main Yorkshire VIEW PENROSE, Walter Servant Single M 22 1879 Carter On Farm Burn Yorkshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 4427 Folio: 5 Page: 2 Registration District: Selby Civil Parish: Brayton Municipal Borough: Address: Chapel Lane, Brayton County: Yorkshire (West riding) Regards Vera
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12 Dec 2011 21:25 |
Old enough to be married by 1911
What other info do you have
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12 Dec 2011 21:31 |
Not with Charles and Ellen Clarke in 1911
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12 Dec 2011 21:38 |
Emma married in 1918 in Doncaster.
Waiting for marriage cert to see if she names her father. Was hoping she was with parents in census. Apparently not.
Thanks for looking.
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12 Dec 2011 21:44 |
Just thought I would show you this Emma.....although I understand she married under the maiden name Herbert in 1918. The birth place got my attention. I found a marriage for an Ida Clarke to a John Whittaker.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THOMSON, Thomas Head Married M 41 1870 Collier Filling Underground Durham Winlaton VIEW >>>>>>WHITTAKER, John Boarder Married M 28 1883 Glass Blower Yorks Denaby Main VIEW >>>>>>WHITTAKER, Emma Boarder Married F 20 1891 Yorks Denaby Main VIEW MANGHAM, Ernest Visitor Married M 27 1884 Collier Filling Underground Yorks West Melton VIEW MANGHAM, Sarah Ann Wife Married 4 years F 28 1883 Yorks Swinton VIEW MANGHAM, John Thomas Son M 3 1908 Yorks South Hemsal VIEW MANGHAM, Elijah Son M 1 1910 Yorks Cudworth VIEW MANGHAM, Charles Ernest Son M 0 (2 MONTH) 1911 Yorks Denaby Main VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 28164 Reference: RG14PN28164 RG78PN1609 RD512 SD2 ED8 SN289 Registration District: Doncaster Sub District: Barnbrough Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Conisbrough Address: 42 Firbeck St Denaby Main Rotherham County: Yorkshire (West riding Regards Vera
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12 Dec 2011 21:46 |
Name: Emma Boylan Birth Date: 31 Jan 1893 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1974 Age at Death: 81 Registration district: Doncaster Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 2b Page: 1099
She could have been living anywhere in 1911
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12 Dec 2011 21:48 |
The Emma and John Whittaker on the 1911are not correct....I found a marriage for them at least I think it is them her maiden name is Hanson.
Regards Vera
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12 Dec 2011 21:50 |
Thanks for that but I think this is that marriage, not my Emma Herbert...
Marriages Sep 1910 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allinson Minnie Doncaster 9c 1474 Foulds Fergus Doncaster 9c 1474 Hanson Emma J Doncaster 9c 1474 Whittaker John Doncaster 9c 1474
but I can well see where you're coming from. Cheers
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12 Dec 2011 21:51 |
Do you have access to Ancestry ?
Service Record
Name: Arthur Boylan Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Age at enlistment: 21 Residence: 13 Ballow St Deconby, Rotherte Document Year: 1915 Regimental Number: ??16 Regiment Name: West Riding Regiment Number of images: 10
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Vera
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12 Dec 2011 21:52 |
These are Emma 's grandparents in 1891
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLARK, Charles Head Married M 41 1850 Agricultural Labourer Glentham Lincolnshire VIEW CLARK, Ellen Wife Married F 36 1855 Wendens Ambo Essex VIEW CLARK, Ann Daughter Single F 15 1876 Rothwell Yorkshire Haigh VIEW CLARK, Herbert Son M 9 1882 Scholar Brayton Yorkshire VIEW CLARK, Frank Son M 8 1883 Scholar Brayton Yorkshire VIEW HERBERT, George T Servant Single M 20 1871 Farm Servant Wistow Yorkshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 3876 Folio: 8 Page: 3 Registration District: Selby Civil Parish: Brayton Municipal Borough: Address: Brayton Hall, Brayton County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Regards Vera
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12 Dec 2011 21:53 |
1911 just in case it comes in handy
HIGGINS, George Head Married M 55 1856 Pick Sharpener Yorks Rotherham VIEW HIGGINS, Florence Wife Second Married 9 years F 44 1867 Yorks Rotherham VIEW HIGGINS, Leonard Son M 8 1903 Yorks Rotherham VIEW HIGGINS, Doris Daughter F 6 1905 Yorks Rotherham VIEW HERBERT, Chorlotte Dada F 12 1899 School Yorks Rotherham VIEW HERBERT, Emma Daughter Single F 18 1893 Waitress In Restaurant Yorks Rotherham VIEW HERBERT, John William Son Single M 21 1890 Labourer In Mine Yorks Rotherham VIEW HALE, John William Boarder Single M 36 1875 Miner Coal Hewer Yorks Rotherham VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 28090 Reference: RG14PN28090 RG78PN1604 RD511 SD3 ED17 SN9 Registration District: Rotherham Sub District: North West Rotherham Enumeration District: 17 Parish: Rotherham Address: 12 Ewers Road Kimberworth Rotherham
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Herbert Florence Rotherham 9c 1007 Higgins George Rotherham 9c 1007 Stevens Frank Robert Rotherham 9c 1007 Wilkes Catherine Heap Rotherham 9c 1007
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12 Dec 2011 21:57 |
GB No afraid I don't have access to Ancestry so that info is very welcome. Thanks a lot
And thanks Vera for the 1891. I wonder if George Herbert is Emma's dad ?
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12 Dec 2011 22:02 |
The Emma born Rotherham is not mine I don't think. She lived all her life in and around Doncaster
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12 Dec 2011 22:06 |
Possible birth Births Mar 1893 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Herbert Emma Doncaster 9c 773
Regards Vera
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12 Dec 2011 22:12 |
Yes I am hoping that is the right birth cert ( it's on my short list) I am just cautious because she may have been born to single mum who later married a Herbert and changed Emma's name.
Then again she may have been born Herbert to unmarried mother who later married
for instance...
Marriages Dec 1894 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clark John Thomas -Doncaster 9c 1309 Herbert Martha - Doncaster 9c 1309 Smith Martha Doncaster 9c 1309 Wheatley Francis Joseph Doncaster 9c 1309
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12 Dec 2011 23:01 |
This could be George Herbert lodger in 1891
HERBERT, George Head Married M 40 1871 Colliery Traffic Manager Wistow Yorks VIEW HERBERT, Annie Wife Married 19 years F 39 1872 Huddersfield Yorks VIEW HERBERT, Elsie Daughter F 6 1905 School Denaby Main Yorks VIEW HERBERT, George Son M 3 1908 Denaby Main Yorks VIEW HERBERT, Sydney Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Doncaster Yorks VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 28209 Reference: RG14PN28209 RG78PN1610 RD512 SD3 ED20 SN308 Registration District: Doncaster Sub District: Doncaster Enumeration District: 20 Parish: Wheatley Address: 75 Stanhope Road Wheatley Doncaster County: Yorkshire (West rid
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12 Dec 2011 23:13 |
married 19 yrs in 1911 so this is the only likely marriage to a Clark, but the location doesn't make sense !
Marriages Dec 1892 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLARK Ann Wandsworth 1d 1126 HERBERT George Thomas Wandsworth 1d 1126 Starks Sidney Wandsworth 1d 1126 Stinton Amelia Wandsworth 1d 1126
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12 Dec 2011 23:31 |
I saw that marriage and agree but then you could say the same for Ellen 1855 Wendens Ambo Essex living in Yorkshire Charles 1850 born Lincolnshire
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12 Dec 2011 23:43 |
I notice George is George T in 1891 so it's a good bet. Thanks for the 1911 census, pity no Emma.
Am wondering if this is her in 1911, maybe working away from home...
HERBERT EMMA - F - 1893 - 18 - Hinckley Leicestershire
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