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sharonrose
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23 Nov 2011 17:56 |
Looking for any details of my ancestors birth in maybole ayr abt 1847 he later married margaret greer in co.antrim and became an argucutaril implentant manufacturer farming and I am told James Gray & Co was awarded bronze award at dublin exhibition in 1882 for making the 1st irish farming plough but I cant find this anywere. Please can anyone point me in the correct direction please. Sharonrose
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alviegal
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23 Nov 2011 18:14 |
Births specifically in Maybole.
Name: James Pollock Gray Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Jul 1848 Baptism/Christening Place: , MAYBOLE, AYR, SCOTLAND Birth Date: 30 Jun 1848 Father's Name: James Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Helen Pollock
Name: James Gray Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 07 Sep 1851 Birthplace: MAYBOLE,AYR,SCOTLAND Father's Name: David Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Marion Kennedy
Name: James Gray Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 07 May 1841 Baptism/Christening Place: , MAYBOLE, AYR, SCOTLAND Birth Date: 24 Apr 1841 Father's Name: John Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Jane Cathcart
Name: James Gray Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: , MAYBOLE, AYR, SCOTLAND Birth Date: 21 Nov 1854 Birthplace: , Maybole, Ayr, Scotland Father's Name: Adam Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Barbara Veitch
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23 Nov 2011 18:35 |
Have you looked for him in the 1901 Irish census?
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23 Nov 2011 18:36 |
1851???
Name: James Gray Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Gray Mother's Name: Helen Gray Gender: Male Where born: Maybole, Ayrshire Parish Number: 488 Civil parish: Maybole Town: Maybole County: Ayrshire Address: Main Street ED: 16 Page: 11 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 38 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1851_103 Household Members: Name Age James Gray 40 Helen Gray 38 Gilbert Gray 11 Isabella Gray 9 Agnes Gray 7 Helen Gray 5 James Gray 2 Margaret Gray 8 MO
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23 Nov 2011 18:37 |
There are others living in Maybole in 1851, but born elsewhere
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23 Nov 2011 20:00 |
From the 1901 perhaps born a little earlier?
Residents of a house 23 in May Street (Windsor Ward, Antrim)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses
Gray Jessie 30 Female Daughter Presbyterian Ireland, Belfast - Read and write English Not Married - Gray James 58 Male Father Presbyterian Ayrshire, Scotland Farmating Implement Maker Read and write English Married - Gray Margret Jane 61 Female Mother Presbyterian Ireland, Belfast Regestary Office Read and write English Married - Dobson Ruth 26 Female Servant Methodist England Servant Domestic Read and write English Married - Gray James A 27 Male Son Presbyterian Ireland, Belfast Cycle Manufacturer and Broker Read and write English Not Married - Gray E 23 Male Son Presbyterian Ireland, Belfast Rent Agent Read and write English Not Married -
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23 Nov 2011 20:07 |
1911 - so maybe even born in 1842. Or depending on the dates of the 1901 and 1911 census you may be able to narrow his birth to a particular month?
The marriage and children detail for James has been scored out on the original image.
Residents of a house 146 in Donegall Pass (Windsor Ward, Antrim)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Gray James 69 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Scotland Agr Implement Maker Read and write English Married - 48 9 4 Gray Margaret Jane 71 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Antrim - Read and write English Married - 48 7 4 Hall Joseph L 33 Male Boarder Presbyterian Belfast Clerk in Linen W House Read and write English Single - - - - Daran Nicholas 26 Male Boarder Roman Catholic Newry, Co Down Dentist Read and write English Single - - - - Kirkpatrick Lily 24 Female Servant Episcopalian Belfast General Servant Read and write English Single - - - -
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23 Nov 2011 20:34 |
Groom's Name: James Gray Groom's Birth Date: 1841 Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: 21 Bride's Name: Margaret Jane Greer Bride's Birth Date: Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: Marriage Date: 09 Oct 1862 Marriage Place: Magheragal, Ant, Ire Groom's Father's Name: Robert Gray Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: James Greer Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70226-6 System Origin: Ireland-VR Source Film Number: 101437 Reference Number: 2:3FZ08R4
Name: Jessie Gray Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 06 Oct 1868 Birthplace: Antrim, Ireland Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: James Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01186-7 System Origin: Ireland-EASy Source Film Number: 101175 Reference Number: v 16 p 346
Name: Emily Gray Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 27 Nov 1870 Birthplace: Antrim, Ireland Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: James Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01405-6 System Origin: Ireland-EASy Source Film Number: 255810 Reference Number: v 1-1 p 379
Name: James Alexander Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: 375, BELFAST NO 6, ANT, IRE Birth Date: 19 Feb 1874 Birthplace: Belfast No 6, Ant, Ire Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: James Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70155-1 System Origin: Ireland-VR Source Film Number: 255893 Reference Number: - 2:28T1ZWW
Name: John Douglas Gray Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 14 Aug 1865 Birthplace: 0362,CROMAC,ANTRIM,IRELAND Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: James Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70126-7 System Origin: Ireland-ODM Source Film Number: 101115 Reference Number:
Name: Agnes Gray Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 14 Dec 1866 Birthplace: 0282,BALLYMACARRET,DOWN,IRELAND Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: James Gray Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Margaret Jane Greer Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70131-1 System Origin: Ireland-ODM Source Film Number: 101140 Reference Number:
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sharonrose
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23 Nov 2011 21:10 |
This information is great and i have looked on find my past but unable to find birth of james gray 1842 whose father is robert gray. on the census it shows james born ayrshire but not showing. thank you for all this searching. Sharonrose
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alviegal
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23 Nov 2011 21:21 |
There are 2 with father, Robert. Where did you get Maybole from?
JAMES GRAY Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 27 MAR 1841 Christening: 04 APR 1841 Newton-On-Ayr, Ayr, Scotland Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ROBERT GRAY Family Mother: AGNES LAWSON
JAMES PATON GRAY Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 27 MAY 1843 Christening: 11 JUN 1843 Dundonald, Ayr, Scotland Death: Burial: Parents: Father: ROBERT GRAY Family Mother: LILIAS PATON
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alviegal
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23 Nov 2011 21:23 |
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1851 Scotland Census about James Gray Name: James Gray Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Gray Mother's Name: Agnes Gray Gender: Male Where born: Newton, Ayrs Parish Number: 612 Civil parish: Newton On Ayr Town: Newton County: Ayrshire Address: New Road Occupation: Scholar ED: 1 Page: 43 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 147 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_138 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gray 50 grocer Agnes Gray 47 Robert Gray Jr. 18 Agnes Gray 14 Jessie Gray 12 James Gray 10 William L Gray 7 Joseph Gray 5 Susan Gray 3
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1851 Scotland Census about James Gray Name: James Gray Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Gray Mother's Name: Lillier Gray Gender: Male Where born: Dundonald, Ayrshire Parish Number: 578 Civil parish: Ayr County: Ayrshire Address: Cumnock House 8 Over Millr Cottage Occupation: Scholar ED: 15 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 13 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1851_128 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gray 42 wood cutter Lillier Gray 40 Michael Gray 11 James Gray 8
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sharonrose
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23 Nov 2011 21:47 |
My distant cousin had said that he came from maybole and his year of birth was abt 1841, he has a daughter called agnes might be after his mother, his father is a implant maker on the wedding cert of james gray to margaret 6.10.1862 antrim
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23 Nov 2011 21:53 |
The one in Newton on Ayr looks a fair possiblity as he had a daughter Agnes and another Jessie. Irish and Scots at that time like to name their children for parents and siblings.
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sharonrose
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26 Nov 2011 14:02 |
is there any further records for scotland free that i can look up the gray=lawson family and when they moved to ireland if they are the correct family as james married in antrim but i cant find his family in any 1851 or 1861 census. Big thank you for all the tracing on the grays this has pushed me further to trace my scottish roots.
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alviegal
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26 Nov 2011 18:49 |
James Paton Gray married a Euphemia and was still in Ayrshire in 1901.
I think the other one was still in Scotland in 1891 and was a clerk.
1881 Scotland Census about James Gray Name: James Gray Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Newton Upon Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/12 Registration district: Gorbals Civil parish: Glasgow Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Occupation: Clerk-Inland Revenue ED: 89 Household schedule number: 28 Line: 17 Roll: cssct1881_248 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gray 47 Robert Gray 17 Margaret Nicol Gray 13 John D Gray 11 James Gray 8 Mayson Gray 4 Jean McGill 22 James Gray 40
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sharonrose
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26 Nov 2011 19:45 |
I think James Gray who was 10 yrs old in 1851 is my connection who lived in new road newton ayr. where can i find these census from 1861 onwards please
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alviegal
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26 Nov 2011 21:19 |
They're all on ancestry but the 10 year old grew up to be a clerk in Scotland.
1851 Scotland Census about James Gray Name: James Gray Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Gray Mother's Name: Agnes Gray Gender: Male Where born: Newton, Ayrs Parish Number: 612 Civil parish: Newton On Ayr Town: Newton County: Ayrshire Address: New Road Occupation: Scholar ED: 1 Page: 43 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 147 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_138 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gray 50 Where born: Newton, Ayrs, grocer Agnes Gray 47 Where born: Newton, Ayrs >>>Robert Gray Jr. 18 Where born: Newton, Ayrs, Sheriff Clerk's Assistant Agnes Gray 14 Jessie Gray 12 James Gray 10 William L Gray 7 Joseph Gray 5 Susan Gray 3
1861 Scotland Census about James Gray Name: James Gray Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Gray Mother's Name: Agnes Gray Gender: Male Where born: Newton Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 578 Registration district: Ayr Civil parish: Newton On Ayr County: Ayrshire Address: New Road Occupation: Clerk ED: 23 Household schedule number: 112 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1861_82 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gray 60 Agnes Gray 57 Agnes Gray 24 Jessie Gray 22 James Gray 20 William Gray 17 Joseph Gray 15 Susan Gray 13
1871 Scotland Census about James Gray Name: James Gray Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Gray Mother's Name: Agnes Gray Gender: Male Where born: Newton Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 578/2 Registration district: Ayr Landward Civil parish: Newton On Ayr Town: Newton Ayr County: Ayrshire Address: Pointhouse Tuckead Occupation: Clerk ED: 5 Household schedule number: 39 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1871_106 Household Members: Name Age Robert Gray 70 Agnes Gray 66 James Gray 31 William L Gray 27 Joseph Gray 25 Susan Gray 22
1881 Scotland Census about James Gray Name: James Gray Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Newton Upon Ayr, Ayrshire Registration Number: 644/12 Registration district: Gorbals Civil parish: Glasgow Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Occupation: Clerk-Inland Revenue ED: 89 Household schedule number: 28 Line: 17 Roll: cssct1881_248 Household Members: Name Age >>>Robert Gray 47 Occupation: Compulsory Officer School Board Of Glasgow Robert Gray 17 Margaret Nicol Gray 13 John D Gray 11 James Gray 8 Mayson Gray 4 Jean McGill 22 James Gray 40
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sharonrose
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27 Nov 2011 10:41 |
Thank you. My james lived in Belfast Antrim by 1862 after he married margaret greer in oct 1862, i guess this one in scotland is not my james.`in 1901/1911 cenus for ireland it shows he born in ayr, so i dont know what step next. i thought the dublin exhibition would show his award in papers being 1st to manufactrur irish plough. cant find that either. im lost
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sharonrose
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16 Dec 2011 20:17 |
Thank you and merry christmas and happy new year to all xxxxx
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alviegal
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18 Dec 2011 21:37 |
Thank you Sharonrose. Sorry we couldn't be of more help to you. Have a wonderful Christmas and may the New Year bring all you wish for.
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