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Thanks Cherilyn and Bernie. Isn't that something :-D

I think the George Draper 5599/1893 died Dubbo parents George and unknown could be your man and also found Sidney George Bonfield Draper died Dubbo 86 years 9175/1939. There's the Bonfield connection. He would have been born 1853 although I couldn't find a birth - could be another state?? Must be one of the sons.

Wow, awesome result! :-)

I read the the entries on eatonbray.com regarding Edward Draper in the Forum titled Draper Family.

I think the query you are talking about is entry #1096 by TJ dated 15th Nov, 2011

I am the great grandson of Edward Draper who married in Forbes in 1857.

He is not the son of George and Marian Draper of Bedfordshire, as queried in #1096.

The death index shown in #1099 is for the same Edward and was advised by my paternal grandfather. He got the name of his grandmother incorrect ( I don't know how, but I do know he had a bad memory). Her name was Jane Bonfield. She married twice again after the death of first husband George Draper.

Entry #1100 refers to the same Edward but the name of his Spouse was, more correctly, Eughena Graham, she is buried at Parkes, NSW, cemetery as Hughena. She could not read or write and she had at least 5 "phonetic" names. Angelia was one.

The Edward Draper in #1101 is one of the sons of Edward.snr and Eughena, my grandfather, George Robert Draper, is another of the sons, there were other brothers and sisters.(see #1102, #1103 et al)

The death notice for Edward.snr (#1105) is correct, he was born in 1827 and died in 1907. The birth dates of the children of George and Jane ( not Marion) are....Maria (1825), Edward (1827), George (1830), and Robert (1833).

The arrival of Edward.snr into Australia in 1850 on the "Elizabeth" with his brother George is correct ( #1106). George married early and started to produce children, Edward married Eughena much later.

Entry #1108 is correct for the two brothers before they left for Australia. They left a younger brother, Robert, in England ( I am still searching for him...he appears as Robert Aburn in the 1851 census)), and an older sister, Maria, who had married in Lambeth.

I have a brief history of Edward and George in Australia. and can trace their ancestry back in England to the mid 1600's.

I hope this is of some help? I have tried to be as concise as possible , so I hope it is clear?

I would like to know the link between "TJ" and the Draper family? "TJ" should feel free to email me at any time.

Graham Draper

Hi
Below is the email replying to our query for Edward.

I would like to thank everyone who looked at the post
especially MarieCeleste , Cherilyn and MEgirl.

Great work ladies

Bernie

Great work MEgirl!

I think I saw that one Bernie, but just kept looking at the Census. Good luck, lets know how you get on. :-)

Found this on Ancestry.
Comments on a family tree for Edward Draper with email address.

Will try to contact

Edward Draper was my great grandfather. Edward arrived in Australia in 1850 with his brother George. Please contact me if you wish to know more?

Thank you MEgirl

I don't have any hair left to pull out

Will post

Bernie

Found them in 1841:

Edward 14 at Clay Hall farm Walkern, Hertfordshire as S (servant); and

George 12 at Yardley - Hertfordshire as labourer both not listed with parents.

Departure Portsea, Southampton, per Elizabeth arriving N.S.W. via Assisted Immigration Scheme, 18/4/1850.

Edward Draper, labourer living Yardley Hertfordshire, parents George and Jane, mother living at Walkern, C of E, read and write.

George Draper, House Servant living Walkern Hert., parents listed as above, C of E, read and write.

So here are your two brothers, but not matching with your other information as far as parents and area of birth.

Got to solve this one or I'll be pulling my hair out.

;-)

Just a typical ol boy from the sticks

ooh tricky ;-)

Thanks Cherilyn

I have done

Secret is (I am Tom n Harry)

Ah. Perhaps you should let Tom n Harry know he was 80 when he died so can't be the son of George & Marion whom who originally enquired about. :-)

This is for my local web site as I posted at 13.04 on the 15th of November on Genes.

http://www.eatonbray.com/forums/genealogy/draper-family/

Is this Angelina/Selina's death in NSW?

578/1886 DRAPER DELINA [father] WILLIAM [mother] ALICE SYDNEY

sorry which poster are you referring to?

Thanks Cherilyn

Have asked the poster for more info but as yet has not replied.
Think the best way is to find his relationship to Edward and work backwards.
What do you think?

Bernie

You have the marriage of Edward to Angelina GRAHAM in 1867 in Forbes (reg 2410); guess this is your connection. Her name appears variously on children's births as Angilina, Angelina, Wena, Una, Ewena, Euena, Selina, and Hughina.

Chn:
Maria J 1868
Edward Alexander 1872, d. 1962 Parkes
Johanna 1876, d. 1952 Randwick [as DRAPER]
Maria J 1878
Elizabeth Eleanor 1880, ?d. 1974 [as Elizabeth Helen Graham DRAPER]
George Robert D 1884, d. 1967 Parkes
John Albert 1886, d. 1867 Sutherland aged 81

EDIT: John & Johanna and possibly other family at Woronora Cemetery. See http://www.woronoracemetery.org.au/name-search.html

Bear in mind, parents names on death certs are only as good as the informant's knowledge! Marriage certs are much more accurate, given that the info on them is provided by the parties themselves!

So if you don't have it, I'd say Edward's marriage cert would be a good buy. You can use a transcription agent in NSW, often much cheaper.

Thank you Cherilyn

Will search 1841 for Edward c1827 and George c1830.

Bernie

This arrival fits:
DRAPER Edward 22 Elizabeth 1850 Sydney and/or Newcastle and brother (George, aged 20)

From www.records.nsw.gov.au