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15 Nov 2011 15:56 |
She was probably still married thats why the children were registered in her hubands name aswell....even though he was not the father
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15 Nov 2011 15:53 |
William and his wife sarah (who died 1903) had this child
Births Dec 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wigfield Mary Charlotte D Birkenhead 8a 511
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cannot see what happened to her after 1901
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Laura
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15 Nov 2011 15:49 |
Southall is Alicia Married name so god knows what was going on?
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Laura
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15 Nov 2011 15:47 |
i know! i just told my nan and she said 'its like upstairs, downstairs'
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15 Nov 2011 15:34 |
Cora was registered in Alicia's maiden name but it looks like the others were registered in the name of Southall and Wigfield so Alicia was more than the maid
Also you have been given Cora's baptism but this time she has been recorded as Wigfield
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Laura
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15 Nov 2011 15:23 |
William was a butcher my nan said. She remembers the name Southall but was told that she was the maid?
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Laura
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15 Nov 2011 11:50 |
I think the family in birkenhead
WIGFIELD, Thomas Son M 10 1901 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW SOUTHALL, John Son M 10 1901 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW WIGFIELD, Cora Daughter F 7 1904 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW WIGFIELD, Erick Son M 4 1907 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW WIGFIELD, Horris Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Scholar Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW Thats definatly them. All the children are there. And the Alicia Southall went to New York... thats the same person who is registered as Cora's mother.
i to am confused about the name change.
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Laura
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15 Nov 2011 11:44 |
It would make sense that Cora had a different name. I beleive she may have been from another marriage. I was given the name Eleanor by my nan but to be fair she said shes not a 100%. i'm confused ha!
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Laura
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15 Nov 2011 11:21 |
I am overwelled by the reponses! thank you all! I'm going to have a good read through all the posts when i finish work!
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SylviaInCanada
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15 Nov 2011 01:11 |
I was also confused by the first post about the name being changed after the shop was bombed in the war.
which war?
Many people with Germanic names changed their names at the beginning of, or during, WW1, certainly not afterwards.
and bombs I think were more lielly to have been dropped in WW2.
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Ozibird
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15 Nov 2011 00:16 |
Hmmm
A bit difficult to work out.
??? Births Jun 1904 Reddish Cora Malita Birkenhead 8a 494
Births Mar 1906 Reddish Jack Birkenhead 8a 541
Births Sep 1906 Wigfield Eric Birkenhead 8a 507
Births Jun 1906 Southall Eric Birkenhead 8a 607 Births Sep 1907 SOUTHALL Cyril Birkenhead 8a 489 Deaths Sep 1907 SOUTHALL Cyril 0 Birkenhead 8a 259
Births Sep 1910 WIGFIELD Horace Birkenhead 8a 479 Births Sep 1910 SOUTHALL Horace Birkenhead 8a 479
And this one is interesting too, but could be a relative. Births Dec 1899 Southall Rhoda Maleita Birkenhead 8a 456 Deaths Jun 1901 Southall Rhoda Melita 1 Birkenhead 8a 313
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Ozibird
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14 Nov 2011 23:47 |
jax, your comment made me wonder if I was following the right family, but it seems I am from his occupation. They've been Wigfields for a long time.
1901 England Census Name: William J Wigfield Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation: Son-in-Law Spouse's Name: Sarah J Wigfield Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Birkenhead Ecclesiastical parish: Tranmere St Catherine County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: 4 Park Grove
Occupation: Butcher Shopkeeper
Condition as to marriage: married
Registration district: Birkenhead Sub-registration district: Tranmere
Piece: 3395 Folio: 90 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age William Atherton 72 - waterman on lighter Mary A Atherton 60 - wife William J Wigfield 30 Sarah J Wigfield 29 - daughter of William Atherton Thomas Wigfield 27 - Son in law's brother Mary C D Wigfield 4 - grand daughter William Atherton 20 - son William Atherton 14 - grandson
First (only) wife? Deaths Mar 1903 WIGFIELD Sarah Jane 31 Birkenhead 8a 299
Brother Births Jun 1873 Wigfield Thomas Wilson Birkenhead 8a 506
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Ozibird
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14 Nov 2011 23:31 |
name: Anne Rebecca Wigfield gender: Female baptism/christening date: 25 May 1830 baptism/christening place: HARWORTH,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND father's name: William Wigfield mother's name: Anne indexing project (batch) number: C04479-1
name: William George Wigfield gender: Male baptism/christening date: 01 Nov 1832 baptism/christening place: HARWORTH,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND father's name: William Wigfield mother's name: Anne indexing project (batch) number: C04479-1
name: Charles Spenser Wigfield gender: Male baptism/christening date: 02 Nov 1835 baptism/christening place: HARWORTH,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND father's name: William Wigfield mother's name: Anne indexing project (batch) number: C04479-1
************************************* name: Thomas Wilson Wigfield gender: Male baptism/christening date: 20 Mar 1836 baptism/christening place: Tickhill, York, England father's name: William Wigfield mother's name: Anne indexing project (batch) number: I03301-7 *************************************
name: Anne Maria Wigfield gender: Female baptism/christening date: 22 Oct 1837 baptism/christening place: HICKLETON,YORK,ENGLAND father's name: William Wigfield mother's name: Anne indexing project (batch) number: C00739-2
name: Emma Wigfield gender: Female baptism/christening date: 23 Oct 1842 baptism/christening place: HICKLETON,YORK,ENGLAND father's name: William Wigfield mother's name: Anne indexing project (batch) number: C00739-2
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14 Nov 2011 23:28 |
Your grandmother was born before the war and was registered as Wigfield
So why have you been told they changed there name after they war?
Sounds like some strange family story to me
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MaureeninNY
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14 Nov 2011 23:26 |
I wonder if this is Alicia going to America?? New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Alicia Southall Name: Alicia Southall Arrival Date: 1 Jun 1921 Birth Year: abt 1878 Birth Location: England Birth Location Other: prescot Age: 43 Gender: Female Ethnicity/RaceĀ/Nationality: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Caronia
Housekeeper born Prescot. Gives contact in UK as Mrs Hughes 5?3 Lord Street Birkenhead. Going to New York City. She seems to be traveling with her sister and her family?? I can't work out the relationships!!!
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Ozibird
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14 Nov 2011 23:26 |
1851 England Census Name: Thomas William [Thomas William Wigfield] [Thomas Wigfield] Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Wigfield Mother's Name: Ann Wigfield Gender: M (Male) Where born: Harworth, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Hickleton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Hickleton
Registration district: Doncaster Sub-registration district: Tickhill ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Piece: 2346 Folio: 147 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age William Wigfield 50 - farmer of 300 acres employing 4 labourers; Adwick Le Street, Yorkshire Ann Wigfield 50 - Tickhill, Yorkshire Elizabeth Wigfield 22 - Thorne, Yorkshire William George Wigfield 18 - Harworth, Nottinghamshire Thomas William 15 [William has been incorrectly transcribed as his surname instead of middle name. Other children then given same surname.] Anne William 13 - Hickleton, Yorkshire Emma William 8 - Hickleton, Yorkshire John William 4 - Hickleton, Yorkshire Eliza Kaye 60 visitor; Annuitant; Hoyland, Yorkshire Hannah Wales 20 - servant Joseph Hanson 18 - servant Charles Crooks 17 - servant
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Ozibird
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14 Nov 2011 23:12 |
1841 England Census Name: Thomas Wigfield Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Hickleton Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (North Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Hickleton
Registration district: Doncaster Sub-registration district: Barnborough
Piece: 1327 Book: 10 Folio: 7 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age William Wigfield 40 - farmer Ann Wigfield 40 William Wigfield 9 Charles Wigfield 7 Thomas Wigfield 5 Ann Wigfield 3
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14 Nov 2011 23:05 |
1871 census - household transcription Person: WIGFIELD, Thomas Address: Duncan Street, Liverpool
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WIGFIELD, Thomas Head M 34 1837 Yorkshire VIEW WIGFIELD, Charlotte Wife F 30 1841 Flintshire VIEW WIGFIELD, William J Son M 1 1870 Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Thomas William Wigfield Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877 Age at Death: 44 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 334 (click to see others on page)
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Ozibird
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14 Nov 2011 23:03 |
1871 England Census Name: Charlotte Wigfield Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Wigfield Gender: Female Where born: Mostyn, Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Thomas
Street Address: 24 Duncan St
Piece: 3778 Folio: 35 Page Number: 64 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Wigfield 34 - Brewer's Drayman; born Hickleton, Yorkshire Charlotte Wigfield 30 Williams Wigfield 1 - born Liverpool, Lancashire
These are incorrectly attached to the Wigfields. They live at 22 Duncan St. Thomas Foxwell 73 Joseph Curtis 40 Mary Curtis 40
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14 Nov 2011 22:59 |
Name: Thomas Wilson Wigfield Age: Full Age Marriage Date: 9 Jan 1870 Parish: Liverpool St David Spouse's Name: Charlotte Roberts Father's Name: William Wigfield Spouse Father's Name: Thomas Roberts
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