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Alice Rose Gadd b.1880 Floriana, Malta

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Vivien

Vivien Report 14 Nov 2011 13:07

Trying to trace my grandfather's elder sister. Believe she may have gone to France in WW1 and maybe had a son Louis? Would really like to know more about her.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Nov 2011 13:10

What happened to her after 1891 census?

Vivien

Vivien Report 14 Nov 2011 13:21

I do not know as that is as far as I have been able to get. Know both her parents were dead by 1901 census.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 14 Nov 2011 14:16

Her birth record doesn't mention Malta

Guess she was registered later? She was Alice R O in census 1891:

Armed Forces BMD details
Registration event: Birth


Name: GADD, Alice R O
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966
Regiment: Royal Engineers
Place: Chatham
Country: England
Year: 1880
Volume: 108
Page: 14

Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 14 Nov 2011 14:18

census 1891 for info :

GADD, Henry Head Married M 40 1851 Army Pensioner Westminster
London
GADD, Alice Wife Married F 38 1853 Soho London
GADD, Alice R O Daughter Single F 10 1881 Scholar Malta Floriana
GADD, Harry W Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar Chatham Kent
GADD, Reuben Son Single M 6 1885 Scholar Ireland Kildare
GADD, Violet M Daughter Single F 0 (5M) 1891 Walworth London

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Piece:
358 Folio:
18 Page:
29 Registration District:
St Saviour Southwark

Civil Parish:
Newington Municipal Borough:

Newington Address:
28, Sedan Street, Newington, London County:
London

Vivien

Vivien Report 14 Nov 2011 14:24

Thank you. I did have this information already but it is any later events that I am looking for.

Flick

Flick Report 14 Nov 2011 16:43

Vivien

One post per family, please.................

http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1285652

Vivien

Vivien Report 22 Apr 2014 17:11

Have discovered the death for Alice Rose - and also a second marriage to an Alfred Leonard Oliver in 1935 Q1. West Ham and sent for the marriage certificate which confirmed I had the right person. However I still can't find her first marriage but from the certificate I have she was married to a Mr. La Gamba - can't find a marriage or death in England/Wales registers. Tried France but to no avail also the passenger lists but with no result. Any ideas where to look next?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Apr 2014 18:39

Name: Alice Rose Gadd
Age (Original): 0
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1881
Birthplace: Malta
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Occupation:
Address: School Of Military Eng Brompton Barracks
Event Place: Gillingham, Kent, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341213
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 897 / 20
Page Number: 15

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Apr 2014 18:51

in case this is of interest

FLORIANA CEMETERIES

Royal Artillery

5th Battery 3rd Brigade

Erected in memory of:



Children

E. GADD Died 3rd November 1863

M. GADD Died 12th July 1864

A. GADD Died 20th July 1865


A. GADD, child, Royal Artillery, died 20th July 1865. Remembered on the Royal Artillery, 5th Battery, 3rd Brigade, memorial

E. GADD, child, Royal Artillery, died 3rd November 1863. Remembered on the Royal Artillery, 5th Battery, 3rd Brigade, memorial

M. GADD, child, Royal Artillery, died 12th July 1864. Remembered on the Royal Artillery, 5th Battery, 3rd Brigade, memorial




FLORIANA CEMETERIES - TalkTalk
website.lineone.net/~remosliema/floriana_cemeteries.htm Cached
... it forms one large family. ... E. GADD Died 3rd November 1863. ... East Kent Militia who died at Malta while the Regiment was serving in the islands.

Vivien

Vivien Report 9 May 2014 15:45

Thanks for the information. Don't think the Floriana Cemeteries entries are relevant to my immediate family as the dates are too early. Nevertheless it was interesting to see.
Anyone able to throw light on the elusive Mr. La Gamba?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 May 2014 22:00

Vivien, does the 1935 marriage state if she was widowed or divorced?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 May 2014 22:08

Just in case you didn't have it already, Alice Rose was born 15 Dec 1880.

Her parents married 18 Dec 1878 at St Paul's Church, Malta.

Info from Henry Gadd's service records on FindMyPast.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 May 2014 08:15

Baptism
County Kent
Place Brompton
Church Chatham Garrison Church
RegisterNumber 795
DateOfBirth 15 Dec 1880
BaptismDate 24 Apr 1881
Forename Alice Rose Orontes
Sex F
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Alice
FatherSurname GADD
MotherSurname
Abode Brompton Barracks
FatherOccupation nd Corporal R.E.


Baptism
County Kent
Place Brompton
Church Chatham Garrison Church
RegisterNumber 1014
DateOfBirth 02 Sep 1883
BaptismDate 03 Feb 1884
Forename Alexander Worth
Sex M
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Alice
FatherSurname GADD
MotherSurname
Abode Brompton Barracks
FatherOccupation Corpl. R.E. Comp.

(if any use, from below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl


Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------
Gadd Alexander Worth 1 Medway 2a 352

Chris :)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 May 2014 12:48

Harry and Reuben are living with a cousin in 1901
Name: Rueben Gadd
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Cousin
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cuwgeh, Ireland
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:15 Pearman street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 403
Folio: 35
Page Number: 7
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles A Weeks 34
Annie Weeks 31
Annie Weeks 9
Dorrie Weeks 2
Harry Gadd 18 occ builders lab
Rueben Gadd 16 occ apprentice carpenter

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 May 2014 12:52

Name: Violet M Gadd
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Pancras, London, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel Maida Hill
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: Home for Female Orphans , Grove Road St Johns Wood

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 112
Folio: 55
Page Number: 47
Household schedule number: 316
Household Members:
Name Age
Violet M Gadd 11
.
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 112; Folio: 55; Page: 47.

Vivien

Vivien Report 10 May 2014 13:30

Amazing! Thanks ChrisHo :) you have found another brother for my grandfather!
MarieCeleste the 1935 marriage certificate gives Alice Rose as a widow.
Vivien

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 May 2014 16:41

It would seem she married abroad and her marriage wasn't registered at the British Embassy .

How do you know about the possible son ? Was he Louis La Gamba ?

Not seeing anything on him online

Flip

Flip Report 10 May 2014 17:13

When/where did Alice & Alfred die? Just thinking there may be probate records.

Also, LaGamba seems to be throwing up far more Italian connections than French - have you researched for her in Italy or Malta (which has strong Italian influences)?

safc

safc Report 10 May 2014 18:17

????

Deaths Dec 1965 (>99%)
OLIVER ALICE R 84 SOUTHWARK 5E 10