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Bob, we'll keep chipping away at it, something may turn up when we don't expect it.

Thing is, he mightn't have died .........

MarieCeleste, i know,tell me about it,My first hunch was the WW 1 thanks for you help and time.Sad to say It makes me not feel as dim as my wife tells me !!!!!!!!! Many thanks Bob

Well, I've searched for Sidney Watkins Burgess, Sidney Burgess Watkins and all sorts of permutations and can't find a death in the timescale.

MarieCeleste Actually it was at the parish church St Pauls Deptford.He was a salesman Bob

MarieCeleste, Ive seen a copy on ancestry..It was in Lewisham,London 31 /8/1912.He was 23 yrs His father was Harry,her father was Philip George Tipp and she was 18.She was 21 when she married in Dec 1914 a widow Bob

Ivy was called Burgess when she married WG Chroxford:

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1914
Burgess Ivy P Chroxford W.Ham 4a 56
Chroxford William G Burgess W.Ham 4a 56

Where did you get her first husband's age from?

Well, before I looked for his death I looked for their marriage - I'm not seeing anything that matches that 1912 marriage?

MarieCeleste,Thanks for that info.I thought I better ask before requesting help on his death.I didn't want to get blown out of the sky Good luck on his death Regards Bob

Robert, best just to keep it on this thread, sometimes it's useful if we need to check back on info.

Will take a look for death.

(PS - I married more than once in my maiden name!)

Shirley Hi,Don't know if I need to start a new thread,But Ivy Phillis Burgess who married W,G Chroxford was a widow at the age of 21 when she married for the second time.Her maiden name was Ivy Phillis TRIPP.Her first husband was Sidney Watkins TRIPP Born 1889.They married 31/8/1912.,Then she married as a widow Dec 1914 to W.G Chroxford.The question I can't find Sidneys death for love or money.Do I need to open a new thread for his death Regards Bob

Shirley ,I think you are right.I will have to dig deep again a get the cert thanks again Bob

K .Don't laugh just asked the wife if ladies would go back to their maiden for the 2 nd Marrige..She said its possible.So thats quite a good bit of info ,which is worth a further look at, Bob

Greenwich marriage seems to be this lady
1911 census
TIPP, Philip George Head Married M 51 1860 Engineer's Fitter Deptford Kent VIEW
TIPP, Eliza Wife Married
32 years F 51 1860 Greenwich Kent VIEW
TIPP, Sidney James Son Single M 25 1886 Soap Factory Labourer Plumstead Kent VIEW
TIPP, Ivy Phyllis Daughter Single F 17 1894 Surgical Appliance Plumstead Kent VIEW
TIPP, Edward Gifford Son M 12 1899 School Deptford Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2595 Reference:
RG14PN2595 RG78PN88 RD28 SD1 ED1 SN208

Registration District:
Greenwich Sub District:
Deptford North Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
St Paul Deptford

Address:
19 Abinger Road Deptford S E County:
London

so Ivy Phyllis not Ivy Pearl


think you going to have to get that 1914 marriage cert

There is this earlier marriage that could be worth looking at -Sorry i miissed the previous post - unfortunately it looks like the womans second name is Phyllis

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
Burgess Sidney W Tipp Greenwich 1d 2167
Tipp Ivy P Burgess Greenwich 1d 2167

1911

TIPP, Philip George Head Married M 51 1860 Engineer's Fitter Deptford Kent VIEW
TIPP, Eliza Wife Married
32 years F 51 1860 Greenwich Kent VIEW
TIPP, Sidney James Son Single M 25 1886 Soap Factory Labourer Plumstead Kent VIEW
TIPP, Ivy Phyllis Daughter Single F 17 1894 Surgical Appliance Plumstead Kent VIEW
TIPP, Edward Gifford Son M 12 1899 School Deptford Kent VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2595 Reference:
RG14PN2595 RG78PN88 RD28 SD1 ED1 SN208

Registration District:
Greenwich Sub District:
Deptford North Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
St Paul Deptford

Address:
19 Abinger Road Deptford S E County:
London

Glitter baby,What are the chances that she married poss for the 2 nd time in her maiden name. bob

Shirley Sorry I haven't a source for Ivy Pearl,but on ancestry its states Ivy P married Chroxford Bob

Unless she married before William Chroxford

Just throw this into the mix

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Burgess Sidney W Tipp Greenwich 1d 2167
Cole John James Greenwich 1d 2167
James Henrietta A Cole Greenwich 1d 2167
Tipp Ivy P Burgess Greenwich 1d 2167

Shirley, Snap I could not find her birth,thats why I thought the 1911 census would be my answer to my short comings!!!! thanks for your time bob x

How do you know she was born Ivy Pearl Burgess ?

Glitterbaby .Actually my main fam tree is Croxford/Crockford/Chroxford, as You probably know they spelt the name as they heard it. George William Chroxford is my 3 rd cousin once removed bob