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illiam /Sarjeant/
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Sex
Male
Birth
1771
Devon County, England
Death
1833
Denbury, Devon, England
MARRIAGES (1)
Spouse
Mary /Jeffery/
Marriage
13 March 1802
Chagford, Devon, England

John /Sergent/
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Sex
Male
Birth
25 September 1803
Denbury Devon
PARENTS
Father
William /Sarjeant/
Mother
Mary /Jeffery/

thanks so much-have only just seen last 2 replies! many many thanks

Hi,

TonyOz does convict lookups, tell him about this thread. His thread is

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1215607

The transportation records has been digitised and can be viewed online.

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON31-1-38,370,311,C,80

About half way down the page

There's this one on familysearch

christening:25 Oct 1807
SAINT KERRIAN,?EXETER,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
residence:Devon,? England
parents:William Sargent,? Mary
name:John Sargent
gender:Male
baptism/christening date:25 Oct 1807
baptism/christening place:SAINT KERRIAN,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND
father's name:William Sargent
mother's name:Mary
indexing project (batch) number:C05095-1
system origin:England-ODM
source film number:917100


Jude

yes it is the marriage -but i haven't seen it at the parish records-but someone here told me it won't have the father's names-which is a shame!

I wish I knew how I could confirm John's father's name-but I don't see hoe without a birth cert-and obviously it was too early.

some one else has also sent me deytails of another John Sargent born exeter the same time -but with parent John and Mary-st sidwells,exeter in 1803-so not sure now which is mine!

Not sure if the Parish records would help... but is this Johns marriage??

Groom's Name: John Sargant
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Salome Baker
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 01 Oct 1832
Marriage Place: Holy Trinity,Exeter,Devon,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05090-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 917095
Reference Number:

thanks very much for all your help.sounds that they all do tie up as there seem to be no other william sargents in exeter until later on- which are johns cousins and nephews. not good makes you feel very lucky!

No, those ones didn't have birthplace but the record I posted shows that place of conviction was "Devon and Hobart". I'm certainly not an expert on these but would guess he was convicted in Devon, England and then some sort of process in Hobart, Tasmania upon arrival.

I doubt his wife would have gone with him. I believe wives were able to follow at their own expense but would that be likely?

There are othe people on here who know a lot more about the transportation process. There's loads of info on Google, too.

sorry if this is a stupid question-but does it show on the transportation where he was born-and when do you know? and also is there any way I can find out if he ever managed to come back?

thanks guys you were quicker than me! poor man-guess he was desperate-specially as looks like the same person as already been in debtors prison 2 yeras earlier. Its not looking good!

thanks very much -all I have to do is prove he was Johns father-but no idea how as by 1841 john is married-and obviouslt if this is william-he was long gone away.guessing he would have never got back.

OMG I have just been looking at an old newspaper and William sargent ,joiner of exeter was scentenced to 14 years transportation in 1827 - for theft of materials for making things. not looking good. If it was him-would his wife have gone too-or been left behind?

The trial Gillian refers to was in 1827, so possibly:

New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia Convict Musters, 1806-1849

Name: William Sargeant
Arrival Date: 1828
Vessel: Bengal Merchant
Province: Tasmania
Title: Ledger Returns S - Z
Year(s): 1846
Place of Conviction: Devon and Hobart

** This one had been sentenced to 14 years.

There is a Wiliam Sargent tried at January Sessions Exeter,Devon for "Larceny by a servant" and sentenced to14 years Transportation

This maybe of interest??

Name: George Sargent
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Jan 1825
Baptism/Christening Place: ALL HALLOWS ON THE WALLS,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Sargent
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05184-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 917198
Reference Number:

I believe his son was John Sargent born 1807 which was my 5x great grandfather. On the igi there is a john sargent born 1807 exeter parents william and mary- but cannot find either of w or m on 1841-so looking back to see why not-and came across this.looking for ways to get documents info etc to prove the link.-thanks

What do you know about him? How does he tie in with you?

thanks-can't find him after that though-and not a burial for him in the local cemeteries or on 1841 census. Hmmmm. Will have to visit west country studies library and check poor records or something- he can't have just disappeared!

Hi,

I would think that "late" refers to where he lived and not his death;

"At the Court - House, in the City and County of the city of Exeter, on the 3d day of November 1825, at Ten o'Clock in the Forenoon.
Thomas Steele Perkins, formerly of Stonehouse, Devonshire, and late of Saint Sidwell, in the County of the City of Exeter, Lieutenant in His Majesty's Royal Marines, and also while at the latter place, Accountant, Common-Carrier, and Professor of Music.
William Sargent, late of the Parish of Allhallows-on-the-Walls, in the City of Exeter, Joiner."


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