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AGNES STEWART and her 3 illegitimate children
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 12:33 |
On the birth cert of Janet, daughter of Agnes they ask for the Maiden name, Age and Birthplace of the mother which she gives as:_ |
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rootgatherer | Report | 17 Oct 2011 12:39 |
Yes, tht is stange but it is also stange that it was months before Janet's birth was registered? |
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 12:41 |
From the info on the birth cert of Janet is appears Agnes sees herself as coming from Edinburgh and that is what she would be likely to put on a census form but if someone else was filling in the form they may see her as from Athelstaneford. |
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Helen | Report | 17 Oct 2011 12:46 |
Long-shot ... This is a married man .... occupation Stone Mason. Living in East Lothian. |
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 12:53 |
Bit late to ask him if has been up to something with my ggGran Helen but agree anything is possible. Had thought Agnes may have been in England or outside chance Ireland when she conceived the children but that makes life even more difficult. That was one explanation for her not appearing in the 51 census, others were a nickname or living under another surname but as she surnamed two children Stewart think the surname switch unlikely. |
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 13:45 |
Last thought before lunch is that the name John should not have been top of the list when it came to choosing the name of her first child if it was she who chose it, It should have been James. Even going back another generation its James and Charles that are predominant not John, would guess the father chose it but the name John not exactly making things easier. |
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Catherine | Report | 17 Oct 2011 14:21 |
Did James Stewart, Agnes' father, have a brother Charles? |
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 14:37 |
Yes Catherine but unfortunately he was born and died in Leadhills. |
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Catherine | Report | 17 Oct 2011 14:47 |
Thought it was worth a try as it would give a link to Edinburgh. |
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 15:08 |
The children of John Muir Stewart/Whitton were born in Banefield Terrace and when that was demolished Murdoch Terrace both in St Cuthberts (Fountainbridge near library), dont know if there was anything to encourage them to live there or if it was just chance. |
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 15:14 |
James Stewart the schoolmaster at Drem, East Lothian father of Agnes was brought up in Leadhills and I presume became a pupil teacher in the local school, he must have shown promise as the Duke of Buccleuch who owned the mines then must have paid to complete his education in Edinburgh before moving him to the Dukes Drem school (for his estates there) via a short stay in Dirleton just down the road from Drem, |
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 15:18 |
Or other possibility is that James served a form of apprenticeship in an Edinburgh school. |
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Helen | Report | 17 Oct 2011 18:36 |
? 1841 |
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Catherine | Report | 17 Oct 2011 18:50 |
OH! That looks interesting Helen, nice find. |
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Catherine | Report | 17 Oct 2011 18:52 |
WILLIAM WHITTON |
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Alan | Report | 17 Oct 2011 22:37 |
First William Whitton (Mason) I have seen, interesting but late and its been a long day. |
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Helen | Report | 18 Oct 2011 10:51 |
There's someone on Genes who has a William Whitton born in Murroes, Angus in their tree. He has no birth year noted (1824) .. but may well be the same William. |
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Alan | Report | 31 May 2015 11:26 |
I am now (at long last) coming to the conclusion that the Whitson name could be correct, also that Agnes was with the Reid family in 1841 as her youngest sister Alice was given the middle name Reid which is not a name in the family line and must have been given for a good reason. I will have to one day try to have a look at the original of John Muir Stewarts birth certificate and see if the name Whitton/Whitson could have been misread. Agnes would have been very literate as her father was the schoolmaster so it could have been someone misreading it. |
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rootgatherer | Report | 31 May 2015 11:41 |
Alan, there wouldn't be a birth certificate for John. All you can hope for is a record of his christening. Statutory registration didn't begin in Scotland until 1855. |
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Alan | Report | 30 Apr 2016 09:56 |
I have at long last satisfied myself that I have found the father of the first of Agnes Stewart's children (John Muir) and very possibly also the father of the other two as well. My thanks to all who showed an interest and helped. This will off course never be a 100% certainty unless a Whitson out there would do a DNA test. |
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