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1911 census look up

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Gillian

Gillian Report 10 Oct 2011 10:46

Can someone please find Emma Kilby, and family in 1911 please

Emma in 1901
Name: Emma G Kilby (Emma Gertrude Kilby
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A
Gender: Female Where born: Lester, Leicester
Civil Parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester St Saviour
County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England

Street address: Beal or Real Street.
Occupation: Shoe machinist.
Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 248
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth A Kilby 38 Widow b Seagrove?
Emma G Kilby 16 Shoe Machinist
Herbert F Kilby 14
Hettie R Kilby 21
Vincent W Kilby 18
Emma Sherwin 37
Ethel L Steele 1
George E Steele 36
Harold Steele 8
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2996; Folio: 147; Page: 43

Have found these possible marriages??
Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
Cowling Alfred Ernest Leicester 7a 316
Freer Jesse Leicester 7a 316
Grosvenor Mary Louise Leicester 7a 316
>KILBY Emma Leicester 7a 316

Or, more likely...............
as Emma - Gertrude (?) - Kilby.......
Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
Atkins John Thomas Leicester 7a 597
>KILBY Emma Gertrude Leicester 7a 597
Torr Ellen Leicester 7a 597
White Harry Leicester 7a 597

Likely that she married - either, John Thomas Atkins OR Harry White.( Its my belief that she married a Harry White - but no actual evidence of that as yet).
I cant find any Atkins / Kilby or any White / Kilby births at all...

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Oct 2011 11:03

I can't find her at the moment but there is this family that could be a possible except that the wife's first name is given as Florence and not Emma but correct middle name:-

ATKINS, John Thomas Head Married M 26 1885 Shoe Clicker Leicestershire Leicester
ATKINS, Florence Gertrude Wife Married 2 years F 26 1885 Hosiery Hand Leicestershire Leicester
ATKINS, Edna May Daughter F 1 1910 Leicestershire Leicester

Address:
55 Kensington Street Leicester

Reference:
RG14PN19182 RG78PN1150A RD407 SD1 ED18 SN28

Kath. x

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Oct 2011 11:04

could this be her
REER, Jesse Head Married M 25 1886 General Engineering Sileby Leicestershire VIEW
FREER, Emma Wife Married
5 years F 27 1884 Syston Leicestershire VIEW
FREER, Sidney Roy Son Single M 4 1907 Belgrave Leicestershire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19159 Reference:
RG14PN19159 RG78PN1149 RD406 SD4 ED2 SN143

Registration District:
Barrow upon Soar Sub District:
Syston Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Syston

Address:
Brook Street Syston Leicester County:
Leicestershire

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Oct 2011 11:10

for ref:-

1901
Name: Elizabeth A Kilby
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Lester, Seagrave
Address:- 7 Real or Beal Street

all children born Lester, Leicester

........but not living at this address in 1911!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Oct 2011 11:11

Perhaps not the Emma who married Jesse as this is her in 1901.

Name: Emma Kilby
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Elijah Kilby
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Kilby
Gender: Female
Where born: Syston, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Syston
Ecclesiastical parish: Syston St Peter
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Barrow upon Soar
Sub-registration district: Syston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 251
Piece: 2984
Folio: 24
Page Number: 39
Household Members: Name Age
Elijah Kilby 49
Elizabeth Kilby 48
Ann Kilby 23
Elisa Kilby 20
Emma Kilby 17
Charlotte Kilby 15
George H Kilby 13
Edith E Kilby 11

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Oct 2011 11:14

Births Sep 1884 Kilby Emma Gertrude Leicester 7a 210


Births Sep 1883 Kilby Emma Barrow On Soar 7a 166

Gillian

Gillian Report 10 Oct 2011 11:20

HI Kathleen

I believe that you have found Emma in 1911 married to John Thomas Atkins - calling herself Florence ( for some reason )
as,
I have found a possible marriage:
Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
>>Atkins John Thomas Leicester 7a 597
>>KILBY Emma Gertrude Leicester 7a 597
Torr Ellen Leicester 7a 597
White Harry Leicester 7a 597

although........in the 1911 census - Florence says she has been married just 2 years.....and has a 1yr old child

but the above marriage for Emma would be 5yrs married by 1911?

Do we think that possibly Emma died & Thomas re-married or that Emma & THomas split up and they both re-married ?

Gillian

Gillian Report 10 Oct 2011 11:29

I have looked on Free BMD for a marriage for John Thomas Atkins after 1906-1920, but cant find one (?)
although there is a marriage before 1906....
Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Arch Charlotte Leicester 7a 621
>>ATKINS John Thomas Leicester 7a 621
Bush Edward William L Leicester 7a 621
Trowbridge Mary Ann Leicester 7a 621

the question is - IS Emma Gertrude Kilby who married John Tomas Atkins is 1906 the same as Florence Gertrude Atkins who is married to a John Thmas Atkins in the 1911 census?

Gillian

Gillian Report 10 Oct 2011 11:40

ok

I think that the 1911 census is a 'red-herring' and NOT the correct Emma Gertrude Kilby - ( Floirence & Emma are not one & the same person )
found this marriage - which fits the 1911 census:
Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
ATKINS Thomas Leicester 7a 484
LOCK Florence Gertrude Leicester 7a 484

So - We still havent found Emma Gertrude Kilby in 1911 ?

anyone got any ideas please?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Oct 2011 11:41

You could rule out the John Thomas married to Florence on the 1911 as being the same one as married in 1900 because of his age.

Gillian

Gillian Report 10 Oct 2011 11:44

I seem to be back to square one...........

Can someone please find Emma Kilby, and family in 1911 please

Emma in 1901
Name: Emma G Kilby (Emma Gertrude Kilby
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A
Gender: Female Where born: Lester, Leicester
Civil Parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester St Saviour
County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England
Street address: Beal or Real Street.
Occupation: Shoe machinist.
Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 248
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth A Kilby 38 Widow b Seagrove?
Emma G Kilby 16 Shoe Machinist
Herbert F Kilby 14
Hettie R Kilby 21
Vincent W Kilby 18
Emma Sherwin 37
Ethel L Steele 1
George E Steele 36
Harold Steele 8
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2996; Folio: 147; Page: 43

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Oct 2011 11:49

Do you have Emma's birth certificate for her exact date of birth please?



Gillian

Gillian Report 10 Oct 2011 11:55

This is correct

Births Sep 1884 Kilby Emma Gertrude Leicester 7a 210

Many thanks

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Oct 2011 12:03

Have you ruled out that see may have emigrated?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Oct 2011 12:10

Have you found any of the family in 1911 please?

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Oct 2011 12:11

Could this be Herbert?

1911

KILBY, Hubert Frank Head Married M 24 1887 Leather Koller Leicester Leicestershire VIEW
KILBY, Annie Wife Married 1 years F 21 1890 Leicester Leicestershire VIEW
KILBY, Herbert Frank Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Leicester Leicestershire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19168 Reference:
RG14PN19168 RG78PN1150A RD407 SD1 ED4 SN87

Registration District:
Leicester Sub District:
North West Leicester Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Leicester

Address:
9 Old Mill Lane Leicester County:
Leicestershire


Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
xxxx FOWKES Annie Leicester 7a 587
GREEN William Leicester 7a 587
xxxx KILBY Herbert Frank Leicester 7a 587
THORPE Mabel Rose Leicester 7a 587

Gillian

Gillian Report 10 Oct 2011 12:12

I have no info for 1911 at all - Im afraid.

Catherine

Catherine Report 10 Oct 2011 12:16

Death for Vincent:-

Name: Vincent W Kilby
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1948
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 3a
Page: 619

.........still in Leicestershire, but he could have left and come back!

Gillian

Gillian Report 10 Oct 2011 12:17

HI Catherine - yes thats definately Herbert Kilby in 1911
thank you

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 Oct 2011 12:21

This looks like her sister Hetty mistranscibed!

(Sorry I don't have a sub)

HOUSEHOLD KILLY HETTY KATE F 1881 30 Leicester Leicestershire

living with these people?

HOUSEHOLD KILLY DOROTHY KLANELL F 1908 3 Leicester Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD KILLY E A ELIZABETH ANN F 1859 52 Leicester Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD KILLY ELLA GERTRUDE KATE F 1896 15 Leicester Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD KILLY ETHEL LILLIE F 1900 11 Leicester Leicestershire
HOUSEHOLD KILLY HAROLD STEELE M 1893 18 Leicester Leicestershire