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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 17:03 |
Did you get the info about Mary Ann dying as Chesswas in 1935 from someone's tree? If so, I've seen a tree on ancestry where they have her marrying George Forster Chesswas and they have this marriage record attached:
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Louisa Freeman Spouse Name: George Forster Chesswas Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1882 Registration Number: ??3
Never, ever trust info on anyone else's tree!!
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 17:07 |
I think this is the death of the Louisa in the above marriage:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Louisa Chesswas Death Place: Carlton, Victoria Age: 40 Father's Name: Freeman Thos Mother's Name: Mary Ann Clarke Registration Year: 1903 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 12688 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
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22 Oct 2011 17:09 |
Then there's this death:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Annie Chesswas Death Place: Black Rock, Victoria Age: 70 Father's Name: Jno Mcmahon Mother's Name: Mary Ann Smith Registration Year: 1935 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 7653 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
and this one:
Name: Geo Forster Chesswas Death Place: Melbourne, Victoria Age: 65 Father's Name: Geo Chesswas Mother's Name: Emma Dell Registration Year: 1924 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 14983 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 17:19 |
The only other marriage I can see for a George Chesswas (apart from his parents) is this:
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Geo Forester Chesswas Spouse Name: Ann Magt Slattery Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1908 Registration Number: 9242
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 17:24 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: George Forrester Chesswas < A boilermaker Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1924 State: Victoria District: Yarra Subdistrict: Richmond Central Living at 225 Lennox Street with Annie, who did "home duties"
Name: George Forrester Chesswas < Ironworker Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1914 State: Victoria District: Batman Subdistrict: Clifton Hill Living at 87 Spensley Street, Clifton Hill with Annie. Also with them are Percival John Slattery and Ernest Slattery.
Name: George Chesswas < Ironworker Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1903 State: Victoria District: Yarra Subdistrict: Darling Ward Living at 32 Alexander Street with Louisa. Nearby at no 17 is Frank Chesswas.
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 17:36 |
Could this be a transition from Mary Ann McMahon at Ann Mgt Slattery?
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Mary Ann McMahon Spouse Name: John Slattery Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1882 Registration Number: 2200
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 17:58 |
John & Mary Ann's firstborn?
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Percival John Slattery Father's Name: John Slattery Mother's Name: Mary Ann Mcmahon Birth Place: Fitzroy, Victoria Registration Year: 1887 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 2864 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Perclval John Slattery Death Place: Cambrian Hill, Victoria Age: 82 Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Anne Mcmahon Registration Year: 1969 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 20328 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Percival John Slattery < Dairyman Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1963 State: Victoria District: Kooyong Subdistrict: Canterbury Living at 313, Canterbury Road, with Violet May
Name: Percival John Slattery < Boot trade Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1931 State: Victoria District: Kooyong Subdistrict: Kew Living at 7 Hamilton Street with Violet May and also Violet - a stenographer.
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 18:14 |
Percival John and Violet May's daughter:
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Violet Slattery Father's Name: Percival Jno Slattery Mother's Name: Violet May Holmes Birth Place: Victoria, Victoria Registration Year: 1908 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 27303R ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Violet May's death:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Violet May Slattery Death Place: Cant, Victoria Age: 76 Father's Name: Robert Holmes Mother's Name: Margaret Registration Year: 1963 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 24518 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Looks like Violet May had been married before:
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Percy Jno Slattery Spouse Name: May Violet Robbins Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1914 Registration Number: 9616
Name: Violet May Holmes Spouse Name: Wm Regg Robbins Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1904 Registration Number: 8117
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 18:24 |
Another son for John and Mary ann:
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Ernest Slattery Father's Name: Jno Slattery Mother's Name: Annie Mcmahon Birth Place: Collingwood, Victoria Registration Year: 1890 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 11661 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Ernest Slattery Death Place: Blac, Victoria Age: 75 Father's Name: Perciva John (so that must be his father's full name) Mother's Name: Ann!E Mcmahon Registration Year: 1965 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 8384 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 18:51 |
Moving to another of John & Mary Ann's daughters:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Kate Thorn Death Place: West Footscray, Victoria Age: 71 Father's Name: Jno Jas Mcmahon Mother's Name: Mary Ann Smith Registration Year: 1936 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 10614 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Kate Thorn Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1903 State: Victoria District: Melbourne Ports Subdistrict: Footscray North Living at 56 Commercial Road with James George, an ironworker.
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22 Oct 2011 19:05 |
Kate & James George's first daughter:
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Phoebe Muriel Thorn Father's Name: Jas Geo Thorn Birth Place: Collingwood, Victoria Registration Year: 1890 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 2477
Possible marriage for her:
Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 Name: Lesl Ie Gorwn Privett (Leslie Gordon, Engine Fitter per later ERs) Spouse Name: Muriel Phoebe Thorn Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1916 Registration Number: 8352
Yes, borne out by this death:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: Phoebe Muriel Privett Death Place: Park, Victoria Age: 76 Father's Name: James Thorn Mother's Name: Katherine Mcmahon Registration Year: 1964 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 11149 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Registration Year: 1916 Registration Number: 8352
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scarey
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22 Oct 2011 19:24 |
Wow marie celeste YOU are amazing Its going to take me ages to get my head around all this. I got her dying as chesswas from the death index- not from others trees.Though I cheated and took the dates of birth for what the family tree synpis threw up as I could access the dates in the birth indices. I'll look through and come back to you
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scarey
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22 Oct 2011 19:35 |
I think It will be tomorrow before I work my way through it all thank you again :-D
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MarieCeleste
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22 Oct 2011 20:18 |
I'm not done yet!!
Here's their second daughter:
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 Name: Ruby May Thorn Father's Name: James Geore- Thorn Mother's Name: Catherine Mcmahon Birth Place: Lingwood, Victoria Registration Year: 1893 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 2837 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Possible death:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: Rusy May Anderson Death Place: Box Hill, Victoria Age: 66 Father's Name: James Ge Thorn Mother's Name: Catilerine Mcmahon Registration Year: 1960 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 1402 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unfortunately, there are 4 possible Ruby May Andersons on the 1919 ER in Victoria: Ruby May Anderson Female 1919 Victoria Batman Fitzroy North Ruby May Anderson Female 1919 Victoria Bourke Northcote Ruby May Anderson Female 1919 Victoria Maribyrnong Footscray North Ruby May Anderson Female 1919 Victoria Melbourne Ports Williamstown
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22 Oct 2011 22:22 |
Bit more info
Surname: McMahon Names: Steph Walts <<mistranscribed Event: Marriage Spouses Surname: Rohan Spouses Names: Cath Frances Yr: 1912 Reg No: 1379
birth of daughter
Surname: McMahon Given Names: Irene Alice Event: Birth Fathers Name: Steph Watts Mothers Name: Cath Frances Rohan Birthplace: Hawthorn Yr: 1912 Reg No: 30744
Another child to John & Mary Ann
Surname: McMahon Given Names: Alice Ellen Christina Event: Birth Fathers Name: John Mothers Name: Mary Ann Smith Birthplace: Coll Yr: 1878 Reg No: 14880
and her death
Surname: McMahon Names: Alice Ellen Christina Event: Death Fathers Surname: McMahon Fathers Name: John Mothers Name: Mary Ann Smith Deathplace: Fitzroy Age: 68 Yr: 1947 Reg No: 5360
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22 Oct 2011 22:48 |
More deaths
Surname: McMahon Names: Alfred Frederick Event: Death Fathers Name: Jno Mothers Name: Mary Ann Smith Deathplace: Hampton Age: 59 Yr: 1933 Reg No: 8235
Surname: McMahon Names: Edith Maude Event: Death Fathers Name: John Mothers Name: Mary Ann Smith Deathplace: Kew Age: 96 Yr: 1972 Reg No: 22781
Joy
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23 Oct 2011 00:44 |
Just to confirm marriages, found on Digger BDM Victorian Pioneer Index 1836-1888 and Edwardian Index 1902-1913
Surname: McMahon Given Names: Mary Ann born >>>>LIVERPOOL Spouses Surname: Slattery Spouses Surname: John
Surname: Slattery Given Names: Mary Ann born Liverpool Spouses Surname: Chesswas Spouses Given Names: Geo Forester
Surname: Privett Given Names: Geoffrey Gordon Geo Event: Birth Fathers Name: Leslie Gordon Mothers Name: Phoebe Muriel Thorn Birthplace: Footscray Yr: 1917 Reg No: 29105
marriage of Ruby, MarieCeleste you can now find them on the ER
Surname: Anderson Name: Arth Gordon Event: Marriage Spouses Surname: Thorn Spouses Given Names: Ruby May Yr: 1914 Reg No: 8393
their children
Surname: Anderson Given Names: Harold Krithia Gordon Jas Event: Birth Fathers Name: Arth Gordon Mothers Name: Ruby May Thorn Birthplace: Fscray [Footscray] Yr: 1916 Reg No: 20729
and his marriages
Surname: Anderson Given Names: Harold Krithia Gordon Jas Event: Marriage Spouses Surname: Lambert Spouses Names: Unice May Yr: 1932 Reg No: 6078
her death
Surname: Anderson Given Names: Unice May Event: Death Fathers Surname: Lambert Fathers Names: Jno Wm Mothers Name: Ivy Myrtle Sutherland Deathplace: Melbourne Age: 19 Yr: 1935 Reg No: 8289
Surname: Anderson Given Names: Harold Crithea Gordon Jas Event: Marriage Spouses Surname: Beaton Spouses Given Names: Beryl Joan Yr: 1938 Reg No: 1779
Surname: Anderson Given Names: Ruby Phyllis Event: Birth Fathers Name: Arthur Gordon Mothers Name: Ruby May Thorn Birthplace: Fscray [Footscray] Yr: 1920 Reg No: 3739
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MeJoy75
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23 Oct 2011 02:50 |
And more
Surname: Privett Given Names: Geoffrey Gordon Geo Event: Marriage Spouses Surname: Munn Spouses Given Names: Grace Millicent Yr: 1942 Reg No: 12129
Ernest Slattery & Arthur Gordon Anderson both signed up for WW1, you can see their digital service records at
http://mappingouranzacs.naa.gov.au/list-name.aspx?name=Anderson
Gordon's record is on page 5, middle person (3 records).
for Ernest, same address but Slattery.
You can download the pages to your computer.
Joy
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23 Oct 2011 07:39 |
scarey,
???????possible sister to John McMahon, immigrated also
Surname: Thorpe Given Names: Alfred Event: Marriage Spouses Surname: McMahon Spouses Given Names: Elizabeth Yr: 1857 Reg No: 1909
her death
Surname: Thorpe Given Names: Eliza Event: Death Fathers Surname: McMahon Fathers Given Names: Daniel<<<<<<<< Mothers Name: Mary Hayes<<<<<<<< Age: 35 Birthplace: Tipp<<<<<<<<<< Yr: 1874 Reg No: 1136
Not sure if this is her arrival, only record I can find
Surname: McMahon Name: E Age: A Arrival: Apr 1855 Ship: Windward Port: F Fiche: 032 Page: 001
children born to the above couple, all in the gold diggings area of Bendigo
Surname: Thorpe Given Name: Alfred Event: Birth Fathers Name: Alfred Mothers Name: Eliza McMahon Birthplace: California Gully Yr: 1858 Reg No: 19418
Surname: Thorpe Given Names: Mary Ann Event: Birth Fathers Name: Alfred Mothers Name: Elizabeth Mahon Birthplace: California [Gully] Yr: 1859 Reg No: 21723
Surname: Thorpe Given Names: Daniel John Event: Birth Fathers Name: Alfred Mothers Name: Eliza McMahon Birthplace: Cali [California Gully] Yr: 1862 Reg No: 16528
his death
Surname: Thorpe Given Names: Daniel John Event: Death Fathers Name: Alfred Mothers Name: Eliza U Age: 4 Deathplace: Nerr Yr: 1866 Reg No: 7941
Surname: Thorpe Given Names: Elizabeth Event: Birth Fathers Name: Alfred Mothers Name: Eliza McMahon Birthplace: Sand [Sandhurst] Yr: 1864 Reg No: 11477
sadly her death as well
Surname: Thorpe Given Names: Elizabeth Event: Death Fathers Name: Alfred Mothers Name: Eliza McMahon Deathplace: Sand [Sandhurst] Yr: 1864 Reg No: 4780
Joy
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scarey
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23 Oct 2011 12:29 |
many thanks marie celeste and mejoy a lot of reading needed now I noticed that violet slattery seems to be born 6 years before her parents married born 1908 marriage 1914. Could this be a transcription error and really be 1918 as a birth year.
Is there any way of discovering what happend to mary Ann nee smith, as she would only have been about 45 when her husband died.perhaps she remarried too thanks again
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