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Ok I'll look into that

Thank you

Sylann - there's no way, just from census records and without a first name, of knowing which of the many A Silvermans would be Rose's aunt. She's obviously not with her aunt in 1920 or 1930.

You'll need to work out if the sister of either one of Rose's parents married a Mr Silverman and we can take it from there. (Of course, "aunt" can be a loosely used term).

all fits

The one thing I've noticed Rose visiting her aunt Mrs A silverman

This means i have Silverman on both sides of this family

I think it is a Jewish surname so their must have been a few about

Do they have censuses for 1920 -1930 just wondering if Mrs a Silverman has any family??

Just checked inbox fantastic Thank you

Sylann - check your inbox!

Sorry for the delay I'd given up and just thought I'd check before going off line

Thank you for all that info Rose fits into the family I've got

I'll have a good look at all the info now and digest it !!

Thank you again for your help

Fanny's death:

Social Security Death Index
Name: Fay Bell
SSN: 547-32-7318
Last Residence: 90266 Manhattan Beach, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
Born: 5 Apr 1903
Died: 2 May 1999
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)


and Jacob's:

Social Security Death Index
Name: Jack Bell
SSN: 562-14-3641
Last Residence: 90016 Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
Born: 5 Jan 1906
Died: Sep 1971
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

Looks like Fanny and Jacob changed their name to Bell:

U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Fay Bell [formerly Fanny Belinsky]
Birth Date: abt 1904
Age at event: 36
Court District: California
Date of Action: 8 Mar 1940

On her declaration of intention in 1939 she names her husband as Jack Bell.

U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972 (World Archives Project)

Name: Jacob Berniski [Jacob Belinsky]
Age: 27
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1906
Birth Location: England
Spouse: Fannie, born 05 Apr 1903
Children: Asher, born 06 Jan 1929
Arrival Year: 1930 - on the Andania
Issue Date: 24 Nov 1933
State: California
Locality, Court: Southern District, Central Division, Los Angeles, California, District Court
Record Type: Declaration of Intention

Married Fannie 03 Sep 1928 in Manchester.

Working as a truck driver. Lives 1612 Alesandro Street, Los Angeles, California.

Interestingly, states he entered the US as Jacob Berniski but known as Belinsky.

It has a photo so have sent to Sylann.

Could be Rose going back to America:

Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943
Name: Rosie Garber - Machinist.
Arrival Date: 12 Nov 1932
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Hebrew
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Britannic
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Sarah Baker
Last Residence: United States of America
Birthplace: Manchester, England

nok in England her sister Mrs Nussbaum, 9 York Buildings, Cheetham, Manchester.

Going to her friend Sarah Baker, 34 Browning Avenue, Dorchester, Mass.

Rose returning:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Rose Garber
Birth Date: abt 1900
Age: 32
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 19 Sep 1932
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Boston
Ship Name: Georgic
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 162365

She's a stitcher, states Russian subject.

Going to 9 York Buildings, Manchester. Intends permanent residence to be in a foreign country.

Fanny arriving in NY:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Fanny Belinsky
Arrival Date: 26 Feb 1930
Birth Year: abt 1904
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Manchester, England
Age: 26
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Hebrew
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Andania

She was travelling with Jacob (23, a tailor) and Asher (7 mos).

The next of kin in england for all of them was Jacob's father - Harris Belinsky, 16 Faraday Avenue, Cheetham, Manchester.

They were headed to Jacob's cousin - Wooly Weiner, 24 Willcock Street, Dorchester, Boston, Mass.

In 1930 she's with a Jack and Fanny Belinski, which matches one of the marriages you asked about.

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Rose Garber
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Home in 1930: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
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Marital Status: Single
Immigration Year: 1923
Relation to Head of House: Sister-in-law
Father's Birthplace: Poland
Mother's Birthplace: Poland
Occupation: Stitcher (Clothing)
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: Poland

Household Members:
Name Age
Jack Belinsky 24 - examiner (clothing)
Fannie Belinsky 25
Asher Belinsky 10 months
Rose Garber 28 (sister-in-law)

Jack, Fanny and little Asher had just immigrated in 1930.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Rose Garber
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1923
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Manchester, England
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Hebrew
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Franconia

She was 5' 4" tall, fair hair, fair skin and blue eyes. Occupation machinist.

Next of kin in England was mother Mrs Blema Garber, 17 St Shad's Street, Cheetham, Manchester.

She was going to her aunt Mrs A Silverman, 2503 Locust Street, Pittsburgh, PA.

Sylann - if you want any more info on those marriages you'll have to buy the certificates.

Sorry I meant to ask if anyone can get anymore info on these marriages may be fathers names ??

I've been trying to get a little more info on my daughters in laws

I've found 3 marriages that could fit the Garber family

Jane Garber -Harry Nunbaum 1919 Manchester

Fanny Garber - Jacob/jack Belinski/Belinsky sept 1928

Betsy Garber - Jacob/Jack Ingleman/Angleman sept 1930

Also if anyone can get info on a Rose Garber who went to New York
1922/1923
and incoming 1932

Thank you

MC - Ancestry have the images to the original h/h pages, but they're not indexed.

Sylann - if you think knowing, say, who was in each of the 3 Newcastle Mr Lukes h/h's would save you wasting time looking up the wrong Mr Lukes's images, then check out my post in Jonesey's thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1184734

MC - Ancestry have the images to the original h/h pages, but they're not indexed.

Sylann - if you think knowing, say, who was in each of the 3 Newcastle Mr Lukes h/h's would save you wasting time looking up the wrong Mr Lukes's images, then check out my post in Jonesey's thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1184734

they have the summary books but you can get the census record also but it is so complicated and you have to go through so many pages which is ok if you find the one you want but spending hours and not getting anywhere I'll not be beaten !!!

Sylann, I'm not 100% sure but I thought Ancestry only had the summary books, not the full census. (Someone will be bound to put me right if I've got it wrong!)