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George

George Report 5 Sep 2011 18:06

Hi
I am looking for any information on Emily Wilhemina Jenkins b 1852 Halifax, Nova Scotia & her sister Charlotte Caroline (unsure of this middle name) Jenkins b 1856 Newfoundland, Canada.
They were in England in Kenwyn, cornwall with their maiden Aunt Louisa / Laura Jenkins in 1871.
I think Emily went on to marry Emile Wendling , a french professor & had two boys Lionel & Noel in Durham in 1881, but after that I cannot find them.
I believe their father was Alfred Jenkins born 1818 in Truro but I cannot be sure of this even, he may have married in Canada.
They both seem to disappear after 1881in England & their early life is a mystery, I have very little knowledge of how to find the early Canadian records, if there are any for these sisters.
Any help on this would be appreciated, Marie.

George

George Report 5 Sep 2011 18:12

Marie Tuplin

Gee

Gee Report 5 Sep 2011 18:52

Marriages Sep 1877
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jenkins Emily Wilhelmina Oundle 3b 329
WENDLING Emile Michel Oundle 3b 329


I cant see a birth for her anywhere.....how have you got to her and her sister please?

Gee

Gee Report 5 Sep 2011 18:55

1881 England Census
about Emily W. Wendling
Name: Emily W. Wendling
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Emile M. Wendling
Gender: Female
Where born: Halifax, Canada

Civil parish: Crossgate
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 22 The Avenue
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4954
Folio: 32
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Emile M. Wendling 32
Emily W. Wendling 29
Lionel S. Wendling 2
Noel M. Wendling 1
Charlotte C. Jenkins 25
Hannah Bacon 20


George

George Report 5 Sep 2011 20:28

Thanks Ginny
Like you I managed to trace them up to 1881 but then nothing.
They may well have emigrated or died.
I don't have a clue about the Canadian records, I spent hours trying to find anything .
I did find an Alfred Jenkins b 1818 in England , mechanic, emigrating to New York in May 1841 . he may well have been the Girls father, who went on to Canada, like so many more people but nothing positive.
Marie

mgnv

mgnv Report 6 Sep 2011 18:37

Civil registration of BMDs began 1864 in NS, and 1892 in NL.
You could try a look up at http://ngb.chebucto.org/

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 6 Sep 2011 19:22

https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/

has one death ( no marriage ) of an Alfred Jenkins

Jenkins, Alfred Hammonds Plains, Halifax County 1929

and that seems rather too late ... it could be the death of the AJ born 1910 ... yes I forgot you can view images, and it was the 1910 Alfred



chrissiex

chrissiex Report 6 Sep 2011 19:26

the Chebucto site ( use the general search box at the very bottom ) shows Charlotte in England in 1891

JENKINS Charlotte C 1856 35 F St Neots Huntingdonshire

here is that census


Name: Charlotte C Jenkins
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Nf, St John

Civil parish: Dean
County/Island: Bedfordshire

Octavia L Hoare 67 born Truro
Charlotte C Jenkins 35
Maude Packwood 14

George

George Report 7 Sep 2011 22:53

Hi
Thanks everyone, there are a few possible clues on the sites suggested but some of the parish records missing.
There is a note of a Samuel Jenkins born Bristol settling in Harbour Grace & raising a family . One of Alfred's siblings was born in Bristol but died as an infant. Alfred may have joined a brother or close family member there. There is also two Wilhemina Jenkins born Habour Grace but no details. Wilhemina was Alfred's mothers name. It may all be coincidence . So the search continues.
chrissiex I think you have found one of the sisters in 1891 in bedford.
Thanks again, Marie.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 8 Sep 2011 00:27

Charlotte is still in Bedfordshire in 1901, so it's looking like she didn't have offspring.

Name: Charlotte C Jenkins
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Nf, St John

Civil parish: Dean

Octavia L Hoare 82 (died in 1901)
Charlotte C Jenkins 45
Annie C Webb 37
Alice Bettles 15

just no trace of her after that in the 1911 or marrying or dying or leaving the country ( harder to tell ) after that, though.


for interest because Octavia Hoare is an aunt ... must be on the Jenkins sisters' mother's side of the family ?

Marriages Dec 1865
Chilcott Octavia Lucy Truro 5c 289
Hoare James Raper Truro 5c 289

1841 in Kenwyn, Cornwall

Elizth Chilcott 54
Lucy Chilcott 19
Edwd Chilcott 16

do you know who Alfred's wife was or where he came from ?

Marriages Dec 1845
BRANCH Grace Truro 9 380
Burrows John Truro 9 380
? CHILCOTT Cornelia Cardew Truro 9 380
CUMING Stephen Truro 9 380
Jenkin John Truro 9 380
? Jenkins Alfred Truro 9 380
NORTHEY Sally Truro 9 380
Sweet Jane Truro 9 380

Cornelia and Octavia certainly sound like sisters :-)

They aren't in the 1851 census and there is no death (or remarriage) for Cornelia Jenkins in the index.

Cornelia in 1841

Name: Cornelia Chilcott
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female

Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Hundred: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset

not born in county, independent means, with one servant.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 8 Sep 2011 00:55

so look what I found at the Chebucto site !

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Stonepics/stonepics-hj.shtml

Stonepics Database

CD# -- Cemetery -- Name -- (Year of Record/Death) -- Number of Photographs

NF059 : STJ37 JENKINS, Cornelia Cardew (1857) - 5 photos

Alfred is not in that list

STJ = St John's

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Cemetery/1city-cem-idx.shtml

STJ37 - St John's 37 - Anglican, old, part 7 of 7

Newfoundland Cemetery ID: STJ37

Cemetery Name: St John's 37 - Anglican, old, part 7 of 7
On the big hill immediately southwest of STJ21-24 and adjacent to the prison. Very large and old with graves of many interesting people.

The CD costs $43 ( about £27) but with 5 photos of her grave it might be something to have



Marie can you tell us what your connection with the family is, it could help in searches ?

it sounds like Alfred may be a brother of of your ancestor ........... ?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 8 Sep 2011 01:42

from familysearch.org

name: Cornelia Cardew Chilcott
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 25 Apr 1816
baptism/christening place: KENWYN,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: John Williams Chilcott
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C02295-1

searching there for children of those parents ... they eventually resorted to numbering their children ... Septima and Octavia :-)

there is a daughter Caroline, and also another daughter with middle name Cardew


I would bet that this is Alfred's birth, given his daughter Emily's middle name

name: Alfred Jenkins
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Oct 1814
baptism/christening place: St. Mary, Truro, Cornwall, England
father's name: Robert Lovell Jenkins
mother's name: Wilhelmine
indexing project (batch) number: I01787-4


1841

Name: Wilhelmina Jenkyn
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Kenwyn

Robt Jenkyn 65 - Captn Royal ... it looks like Miners, but Marines probably?
Wilhelmina Jenkyn 60
- they are not born in county

and

Name: Alfrd Jenks
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 not born in county
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Kenwyn

good heavens, I can't make out his occupation, but the next one in the household is a wild beastman ! ... the head of household is a labourer, then there are two musicians, then Alfred, yes, also a musician ... well, maybe not him ... ? but the only one I can find ... if he was seafaring, which would fit with going to Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, he might have been on vessels


Alfred 1814 had a sister

name: Emily Wilhelmina Jenkins
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 21 Jul 1817
baptism/christening place: TRURO,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Robert Lovell Jenkins
mother's name: Wilhelmina
indexing project (batch) number: P00963-1

so that is the right Alfred baptism for sure

and yes Bristol

sister Louisa Lavery Jenkins 1811 Bristol
sister Laura Charlotte Wilhelmina Jenkins 1805 Dover
brother Robert Kantenkamp Jenkins 1807 Dover

these would all be in connection with the father's postings I imagine


aha 1851

Name: Wilhelmina Jenkins
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England

Civil parish: Kenwyn

Wilhelmina Jenkins 70 fundholder, widowed
Laura C W Jenkins 45 gentle woman
Emily W Jenkins 33 gentle woman
Elizabeth Dennis 25
Jane Wade 22

neighbours are two Carlyon households -- very old wealthy family in the area


record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Robert Lovell Jenkins
bride's name: Wilheminha Hole
marriage date: 25 Aug 1804
marriage place: Ilfracombe,Devon,England
indexing project (batch) number: M05121-1


I wish I knew what you were actually looking for !

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 8 Sep 2011 02:16

we are on a roll


name: Wilhelmina Hole
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 21 Aug 1780
baptism/christening place: SAINT LEONARD,EXETER,DEVON,ENGLAND
father's name: Richard Hole
mother's name: Wilhelmina
indexing project (batch) number: C05097-1

name: Robt. Lovell Jenkins
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Oct 1774
baptism/christening place: Blandford-Forum, Dorset, England
father's name: Philip Jenkins
mother's name: Eliz.
indexing project (batch) number: C15808-1

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Sep 2011 04:54

The 1881 census shows that it was Lionel S Wendling, but his birth registration on ancestry indicates that his middle name did not begin with S


Lionel Tresy?Lian Wendling
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1878
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 374a




Do you know what his middle name was?




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Sep 2011 04:58

Noel's middle name was Merivale

Name: Noel Merivale Wendling
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1880
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 303




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Sep 2011 05:12

following through with Chrissie's finds ... and hoping to find the origin of Lionel and Noel's middle names!

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Richard Hole
bride's name: Wilhelmina Katenkamp
marriage date: 28 Oct 1776
marriage place: Holy Trinity,Exeter,Devon,England
indexing project (batch) number: M05090-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 917095




???????

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Philip Jenkins
bride's name: Eliz. Clark
marriage date: 12 Aug 1773
marriage place: Blandford-Forum, Dorset, England
indexing project (batch) number: M15808-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1279480




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 8 Sep 2011 05:15

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Emily Wilhelmine Jenkins
bride's name: Emile Michel Wendling
marriage date: 01 Jul 1877
marriage place: St. Margaret'S, Durham, Durham, England
indexing project (batch) number: I04434-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2104078



they've got the bride and groom's names reversed, but what the heck!




sylvia

Gee

Gee Report 8 Sep 2011 06:01

Sylv, his full name, from the GRO record

Lional Tresyllian Wendling

And his brother

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Noel Merivale Wendling
Name: Noel Merivale Wendling
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1880
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 303


All I can think is that the family went to Germany as thats where the father was born

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 8 Sep 2011 07:28

could there be an error on the age in 1911 ?

WENDLING EMILY F 1863 48 Westminster

probably not as she is living with

HOUSEHOLD WENDLING VALENTINE M 1865 46 Westminster

and in 1901 he is in Penge Surrey a waiter born in Italy ... which I think is messed up ( the whole list is ) and the insertion for Italy should have been the next one on the list and he is the one born in Germany

very probably related ?

in 1901 there are also Charles Wendling born abt 1854 in Germany, Alphonse Wendling born abt 1879 in Germany and Marie Wendling born abt 1880 in Germany, along with a couple of French Wendlings ... in 1881, Anthony Wendling born abt 1856 in Germany

1871 has an older Wendling couple from Germany

just thinking that if any had descendants they might know about Wendling family connections

someone here at genesreunited has a load of Wendlings born in Germany in their tree but none of these

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 8 Sep 2011 08:15

oops we have a small complication here

in 1881 Emile M Wendling is

BA of the University of France
Lecturer in Mod Languages at Durim
Univ : Foreign Lang : Master at Durham
School

and his place of birth is Strasbourg Alsace ... which is currently in France ... and which was only temporarily German after the Franco-Prussian war from 1871 until the Treaty of Versailles 1919

and given his graduation from the University of France during its existence I suspect that he was more French than German ... he may not have gone back to Strasbourg as it was under German rule after 1881

http://www.geopatronyme.com/

Wendlings born in France after 1891 ( the earliest date there )

1891-1915 : 1037
1916-1940 : 1202
1941-1965 : 1517
1966-1990 : 1238

there is a map for each period showing where the births were

http://www.geopatronyme.com/cgi-bin/carte/nomcarte.cgi?nom=wendling&submit=Valider&client=cdip

the site does not count births in Alsace during the period 1891-1915 however because it was under German rule

http://www.genealogie.com/v2/genealogie-service-bh/recherche.asp?nom=WENDLING&partner=Patro

I did a few searches but did not find the names of these family members in any records

I would be surprised if they returned to France during that period I think, they might more likely have emigrated to somewhere else

there is a contemporary musician composer named Lionel Wendling in France ( this is the English version of the website )

http://www.lionelwendling.com/homeEN.html


I think I might get in touch with him !