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GillianMac
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6 Sep 2011 12:53 |
I think what we may be up against is Jewish immigration and the common habit of anglicising German or Polish names to avoid discrimination and changing them at will Cant find anything on an August Maurice Channell -said to be father of Maurice Emmanuel yet he must have been in the country in 1851 if henry was born here in Shoreditch Might be an idea to try one of the Jewish genealogy sites
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GillianMac
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5 Sep 2011 18:47 |
So father is Maurice Emmanuel or Henry Maurice or William Maurice!
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Choccy
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5 Sep 2011 14:18 |
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription First name(s): George Last name: CHANNELL Calculated year of birth: 1887 Parish of birth: Shoreditch Town of birth: London County of birth: Middlesex Age at attestation: 18 years 1 months Attestation date: 8 July 1905 Attestation corps: Duke of Cambridge's Own (Middlesex Regiment) Attestation soldier number: 10283 Discharge rank: Discharge corps: Discharge soldier number: The National Archives reference: WO97 / 4513 / 17
Father - Henry Maurice Channell Mother - Jane Brothers - William and Robert >>>>Sister - Etty Wood, Bishops Road, Hackney
Home address - 82 Laburnum Street, Shoreditch
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5 Sep 2011 14:02 |
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription First name(s): William Last name: CHANNELL Calculated year of birth: 1885 Parish of birth: Shoreditch Town of birth: London County of birth: Middlesex Age at attestation: 18 years Attestation date: 13 January 1903 Attestation corps: 7TH BN RIFLE BRIGADE Attestation soldier number: 7179 Discharge rank: Discharge corps: Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own) Discharge soldier number: The National Archives reference: WO96 / 1245 / 39
Father - 'William' Morris Channell Mother - Jane LOVE Elder brothers - Frederick and Henry Younger brothers - Robert and George
Address - 82 Laburnum Street, Shoreditch
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BARRETT, Thomas Father Married 33 years M 54 1857 Boot Maker Hoxton ST VIEW BARRETT, Jane Mother Married 33 years F 55 1856 Hackney Road VIEW BARRETT, Alfred Ernest Son Single M 25 1886 Carman 82 Laburnum ST VIEW BARRETT, Rose Eliza Daughter Single F 18 1893 Machinist 82 Laburnum ST VIEW >>>>>CHANNELL, William Boarder Single M 25 1886 Army Reserve 82 Laburnum ST VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 1368 Reference: RG14PN1368 RG78PN48 RD16 SD3 ED5 SN307 Registration District: Shoreditch Sub District: Shoreditch North East Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Shoreditch Address: 66 Laburnum St Shoreditch London W E County: London
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BARRETT, Thomas Head Widower M 44 1857 Boot Laster Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW CHANNELL, Jane House Keeper Single F 45 1856 Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW BARRETT, Thomas Son Single M 21 1880 Hackney Middlesex VIEW BARRETT, Alfred Son M 15 1886 Assistant At Saw Mills Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW BARRETT, Henry Son M 13 1888 Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW BARRETT, Lydia Daughter F 11 1890 Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW BARRETT, Rose Daughter F 9 1892 Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW CHANNELL, Henritta House Keeper D Single F 18 1883 Boot Machinist Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW >>>>>CHANNELL, William Son M 15 1886 Asst Glass Blower Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW CHANNEL, Robert Son M 13 1888 Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW CHANNEL, George Son M 11 1890 Shoreditch Middlesex VIEW ALLEN, Jane Boarder Widow F 65 1836 Charing Bethnal Green Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 281 Folio: 75 Page: 30 Registration District: Shoreditch Sub District: Haggerston Enumeration District: 25 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Chads Civil Parish: Shoreditch Municipal Borough: Address: 82, Laburnum Street, Shoreditch County: London
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 12:18 |
I had not found these records, Thankyou everyone.
The baptism record puzzles me. Maurice Emmanuel Channell....a boot maker. I found Henry Maurice in marriage cert as a bootmaker. I wonder if they are the same person.
I feel there is more to Henry Channell than meets the eye.
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GillianMac
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5 Sep 2011 12:02 |
The Jane Noble shown in the marriage to Maurice emmanuel Channell shows her father as William Love This is her first marriage 1/1/1873 St James the great Bethnal green William Henry Noble to Jane Love both of full age , not married before living Bethnal green His father Wiliam Noble Carman Her father William Love Cabinet maker
But it is difficult to find them 1881 -not the ones in Berkeley Glos as he is still with her in 1891 and is Wiliam Holmes Noble
And where did Frederick Channell aged 13 come from in the 1891 census -Henry surely too young to be his father ?
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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5 Sep 2011 09:37 |
On the 1901 census where Jane is down as Housekeeper
Henrietta Channell age 18 is on the image down as "Housekeepers Daughter " NOT "Granddaughter" as transcribed
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Choccy
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5 Sep 2011 09:27 |
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same address as baptism records
1881
CHANNALL, Ellen Wife Head Widow F 29 1852 Tailoress Southampton Hampshire VIEW CHANNALL, Harry Son Single M 4 1877 Forest Gate Essex VIEW CHANNALL, Frank J? Son Single M 2 1879 Stepney Middlesex VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG11 Piece: 446 Folio: 127 Page: 39 Registration District: Whitechapel Sub District: Goodmans Fields Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Whitechapel Municipal Borough: Address: 37, Gowers Walk, Whitechapel County: Middlesex
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CHANNELL, Ellen Head Married F 39 1852 Tailoress Southampton Hampshire VIEW CHANNELL, Frank Son M 12 1879 Scholar Stepney London VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 285 Folio: 105 Page: 11 Registration District: St George in the East Sub District: St George North Enumeration District: 10 Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Civil Parish: St George in the East Municipal Borough: St George East Address: 29, John Street, St George In The East, St George East County: London
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GlitterBaby
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5 Sep 2011 08:45 |
I Presume you have also looked at this entry
Name: Henrietta Channel Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885 Baptism Date: 23 Aug 1885 Father's Name: Maurice Emmanuel Channel Mother's Name: Jane Channel Parish or Poor Law Union: Haggerston St Chad Borough: Hackney
Born 1883 on image Maurice is a bootmaker
1901 has Maurice in the workhouse - married Class: RG13; Piece: 281; Folio: 174; Page: 25
Possible death for Maurice in 1906 Shoreditch
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 00:39 |
Yes you are right, I think I may have her mother or even both parents completely wrong... I wil wait for the certificates I think....Thanks again..
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GlitterBaby
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5 Sep 2011 00:31 |
But we are back to what is her correct year of birth 1874 or 1883
The marriage cert and 1911 census suggests it is 1883
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 00:13 |
Here is a Henry Channell again a postal worker. I have him as a postal worker married to Agnes Newson and before that Ellen Stevens and also again to someone called Jane and in each record he is a postal worker...coincidence.
1911 census record for household of HENRY CHANNELL Household information Address Lingfield Road Edenbridge Parish Edenbridge Town Edenbridge Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms Six Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN4029 RG78PN155 RD49 SD3 ED2 SN221 Administrative County Kent Registration District Sevenoaks Registration Sub District Penshurst Enumeration District 2 Householder 1 Name Henry Channell Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 58 Estimated Year of Birth 1853 Occupation Post Office Pensioner Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth London Whitechapel Householder 2 Name Agnes Rebecca Channell Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married / 12 Years Gender F Age 50 Estimated Year of Birth 1861 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Yorkshire Leeds Householder 3 Name Florence Ketty Channell Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Condition / Years Married / Years Gender F Age 26 Estimated Year of Birth 1885 Occupation Head Teacher Employed Y Working at Home N Industry County Council Place of Birth Epsom Surrey
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 00:10 |
This is what confuses me. Henrietta living with grandparents......if this is her...unsure
1881 census record for household of Henrietta Channell Address 18, Newnham Street Parish Whitechapel District Whitechapel, Goodmans Fields Administrative County Middlesex Householder 1 Name Henry Stevens Age 54 Estimated Year of Birth 1827 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Tailor Birth Place Southampton Birth County Hampshire Householder 2 Name Mary Stevens Age 52 Estimated Year of Birth 1829 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Southampton Birth County Hampshire Householder 3 Name Frank Stevens Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1866 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Tower Birth County Middlesex Householder 4 Name Henrietta Channell Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1875 Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter Occupation Scholar Birth Place Whitechapel Birth County Middlesex
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 00:07 |
I had seen this marriage but was unsure as to whether it related to me or not.
This one is a mystery to me. I have ordered henrietta birth cert to try to find her mother.
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GlitterBaby
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5 Sep 2011 00:01 |
Have you checked out this marriage
Name: Maurice Emmanuel Channell Channell Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Spouse Name: Jane Noble Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 18 Mar 1885 Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: August Maurice Channell Spouse Father Name: William Love
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Gill
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4 Sep 2011 23:55 |
My Henrietta is definately the second one married to my ggrandfather Robert John Wood. Her Father is Henry Maurice Channell but am unsure to her mother. Thanks to you all for taking the time to help me.
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GlitterBaby
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4 Sep 2011 23:53 |
I think the age for Henry on 1891 census is wrong
1881? Name: Harry Channell Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Spitalfields County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Heneage St St Thomas Chambers Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Boot Maker Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 439 Folio: 34 Page Number: 3
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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4 Sep 2011 23:51 |
1st one
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henrietta Elizabeth Channell Name: Henrietta Elizabeth Channell Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Spouse Name: Frederick Crockett Spouse Age: 28 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 05 Oct 1891 Parish: St Philip, Stepney County: London Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Henry Channell Spouse Father Name: George Crockett ------------------------------------------------------------------
and the one who married Robert Wood-which Glitter Baby has already posted
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henrietta Channell Name: Henrietta Channell Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Spouse Name: Robert John Won Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1905 Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green County: London Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Henry Maurice Channell Spouse Father Name: Robert John Won
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GlitterBaby
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4 Sep 2011 23:49 |
Births Dec 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHANNELL Henrietta Whitechapel 1c 389
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHANNELL Henrietta Shoreditch 1c 150
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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4 Sep 2011 23:44 |
maybe 2 different Henrietta !!
Exact Search Results - London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 You searched for Henrietta Channell in England Refine your search Record Name Estimated Birth Year Event Date Spouse Name Parish
Henrietta Elizabeth Channell abt 1873 5 Oct 1891 Frederick Crockett Stepney St Philip
Henrietta Channell abt 1883 23 Apr 1905 Robert John Won Bethnal Green St Thomas
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