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4 Sep 2011 23:14 |
Hi everyone. I am looking for my ggrandmother Henrietta Channell, born abt 1874. She married Robert John Wood. I know her father was Henry Channell, but I am unsure about her mother...I thought she was Ellen stevens but I then saw he later married Agnes Newson who was their housekeeper!!! and they had 3 children and I cant see Henrietta. I find a Henrietta with her grandparents in one census but I dont know if this is the correct Henrietta. I also cannot trace Ellen Stevens anymore.. ANy help would be appreciated, thankyou.
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GlitterBaby
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4 Sep 2011 23:18 |
Just for info
Name: Henrietta Channell Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Spouse Name: Robert John Won Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1905 Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green County: London Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Henry Maurice Channell Spouse Father Name: Robert John Won
Name correction has already been done on Ancestry for Robert Wood
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4 Sep 2011 23:22 |
Yes Thankyou....Robert John Won ...should be Wood..lol is my ggrandad. This side of my family were all from Bethnal green as far as i am aware.
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MargaretM
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4 Sep 2011 23:25 |
This one?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Henrietta Elizabeth Channell Name: Henrietta Elizabeth Channell Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1875 Baptism Date: 2 May 1875 Father's Name: Henry Channell Mother's Name: Ellen Channell Parish or Poor Law Union: Goodman´s Fields St Mark Borough: Islington Born 20 Sep. 1874, 7 Newnham St., father a porter/sorter?
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GlitterBaby
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4 Sep 2011 23:28 |
1911
WOOD, Robert Head Married M 26 1885 Walking Stick Maker Filer Hoxton London VIEW WOOD, Hetty Wife Married 6 years F 28 1883 Kingsland Rd London VIEW WOOD, Hetty Daughter F 5 1906 School Shoreditch London VIEW WOOD, Robert Son M 2 1909 Bethnal Green London VIEW WOOD, Nellie Daughter F 4 1907 Bethnal Green London VIEW WOOD, Willie Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Bethnal Green London VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 1382 Reference: RG14PN1382 RG78PN49 RD17 SD1 ED1 SN154 Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Bethnal Green North East Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Bethnal Green Address: 1 Cadell St N E
Some confusion over her year of birth then as this matches the marriage cert
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GlitterBaby
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4 Sep 2011 23:37 |
1901 I presume you mean this one with grandparents
Name: Henrietta Channell Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 185 Piece: 281 Folio: 75 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Barrett 44 Jane Channell 45 Thomas Barrett 21 Alfred Barrett 15 Henry Barrett 13 Lydia Barrett 11 Rose Barrett 9 Henrietta Channell 18 William Channell 15 Robert Channell 13 George Channell 11 Jane Allen 65
1891 Name: Henrietta Channel Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Channel Mother's Name: Jane Channel Gender: Female Where born: Shoreditch, London, England Civil parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: St Chads Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 253 Folio: 52 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Henry Channel 27 Jane Channel 38 Frederick Channel 13 Henry Channel 10 Henrietta Channel 8 William Channel 6 Robert Channel 2 George Channel 1 Henry is a boot maker On marriage cert his occupation is boot laster ?
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Gill
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4 Sep 2011 23:38 |
Thankyou. I had not seen the 1911 census one.
These are all definately her. I wonder why she is not in the census with Ellen her mother. Maybe Henry had an affair with his housekeepr and Henrietta was sent to live with her grandpaarents ( Ellen's parents) Ellen seems to be completely out of the picture and never seen in the census with her mother.
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MargaretM
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4 Sep 2011 23:38 |
Siblings? Both have address 37 Gower's Walk, father a letter sorter.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Henry James Channell Name: Henry James Channell Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1881 Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1881 Father's Name: Henry Channell Mother's Name: Ellen Channell Parish or Poor Law Union: Goodman´s Fields St Mark Borough: Islington Born 1 Oct. 1876.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Frank William Channell Name: Frank William Channell Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1881 Baptism Date: 31 Aug 1881 Father's Name: Hany Channell Mother's Name: Ellen Channell Parish or Poor Law Union: Goodman´s Fields St Mark Borough: Islington Born 23 Dec. 1878
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Gill
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4 Sep 2011 23:43 |
I had not seen those baptisms..Thankyou.
As for the census 1891, I had seen this but was unsure if it was her as it looks like one l in Channell and the year of birth was about 9 years difference, but it could be her and I may have my info incorrect.
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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4 Sep 2011 23:44 |
maybe 2 different Henrietta !!
Exact Search Results - London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 You searched for Henrietta Channell in England Refine your search Record Name Estimated Birth Year Event Date Spouse Name Parish
Henrietta Elizabeth Channell abt 1873 5 Oct 1891 Frederick Crockett Stepney St Philip
Henrietta Channell abt 1883 23 Apr 1905 Robert John Won Bethnal Green St Thomas
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GlitterBaby
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4 Sep 2011 23:49 |
Births Dec 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHANNELL Henrietta Whitechapel 1c 389
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1883 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHANNELL Henrietta Shoreditch 1c 150
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BarbaraFromYorkshire
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4 Sep 2011 23:51 |
1st one
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henrietta Elizabeth Channell Name: Henrietta Elizabeth Channell Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Spouse Name: Frederick Crockett Spouse Age: 28 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 05 Oct 1891 Parish: St Philip, Stepney County: London Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Henry Channell Spouse Father Name: George Crockett ------------------------------------------------------------------
and the one who married Robert Wood-which Glitter Baby has already posted
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henrietta Channell Name: Henrietta Channell Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Spouse Name: Robert John Won Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1905 Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green County: London Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Henry Maurice Channell Spouse Father Name: Robert John Won
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GlitterBaby
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4 Sep 2011 23:53 |
I think the age for Henry on 1891 census is wrong
1881? Name: Harry Channell Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Spitalfields County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Heneage St St Thomas Chambers Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Boot Maker Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Mile End New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 439 Folio: 34 Page Number: 3
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Gill
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4 Sep 2011 23:55 |
My Henrietta is definately the second one married to my ggrandfather Robert John Wood. Her Father is Henry Maurice Channell but am unsure to her mother. Thanks to you all for taking the time to help me.
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GlitterBaby
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5 Sep 2011 00:01 |
Have you checked out this marriage
Name: Maurice Emmanuel Channell Channell Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Spouse Name: Jane Noble Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 18 Mar 1885 Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: August Maurice Channell Spouse Father Name: William Love
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 00:07 |
I had seen this marriage but was unsure as to whether it related to me or not.
This one is a mystery to me. I have ordered henrietta birth cert to try to find her mother.
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 00:10 |
This is what confuses me. Henrietta living with grandparents......if this is her...unsure
1881 census record for household of Henrietta Channell Address 18, Newnham Street Parish Whitechapel District Whitechapel, Goodmans Fields Administrative County Middlesex Householder 1 Name Henry Stevens Age 54 Estimated Year of Birth 1827 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Tailor Birth Place Southampton Birth County Hampshire Householder 2 Name Mary Stevens Age 52 Estimated Year of Birth 1829 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Southampton Birth County Hampshire Householder 3 Name Frank Stevens Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1866 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Tower Birth County Middlesex Householder 4 Name Henrietta Channell Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1875 Relationship to Head of Household Grand Daughter Occupation Scholar Birth Place Whitechapel Birth County Middlesex
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 00:13 |
Here is a Henry Channell again a postal worker. I have him as a postal worker married to Agnes Newson and before that Ellen Stevens and also again to someone called Jane and in each record he is a postal worker...coincidence.
1911 census record for household of HENRY CHANNELL Household information Address Lingfield Road Edenbridge Parish Edenbridge Town Edenbridge Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms Six Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN4029 RG78PN155 RD49 SD3 ED2 SN221 Administrative County Kent Registration District Sevenoaks Registration Sub District Penshurst Enumeration District 2 Householder 1 Name Henry Channell Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 58 Estimated Year of Birth 1853 Occupation Post Office Pensioner Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth London Whitechapel Householder 2 Name Agnes Rebecca Channell Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married / 12 Years Gender F Age 50 Estimated Year of Birth 1861 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Yorkshire Leeds Householder 3 Name Florence Ketty Channell Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Condition / Years Married / Years Gender F Age 26 Estimated Year of Birth 1885 Occupation Head Teacher Employed Y Working at Home N Industry County Council Place of Birth Epsom Surrey
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GlitterBaby
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5 Sep 2011 00:31 |
But we are back to what is her correct year of birth 1874 or 1883
The marriage cert and 1911 census suggests it is 1883
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Gill
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5 Sep 2011 00:39 |
Yes you are right, I think I may have her mother or even both parents completely wrong... I wil wait for the certificates I think....Thanks again..
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