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Ouch,Mel-the "h" word!

Vicky-I think I'm happier than you are. Almost did cartwheels around the computer. "Almost" being the key word in that sentence.

Maureenxx

So glad it is now sorted Vicky.

Maureen clever girl.

I could'nt do anymore as I have rellies coming and had to do the dreaded housework which I hate :-(

Maureen - After having a good look and using google maps to decifer what the census's were saying, I can see the connection!!!!

It doesn't make it easy when sometimes the birthplaces change on cencus's thats why I use google to see the distances between, if you can understand that?

Thank you ever so much for tracking down the link, it looked like I was getting myself into a right muddle, if these records were rope I would have tied myself up 10 times over. I can now start working on this line and finding all the other 465 heirs, ha ha!!


Thanks again

Vicky

Maureen - After having a good look and using google maps to decifer what the census's were saying, I can see the connection!!!!

It doesn't make it easy when sometimes the birthplaces change on cencus's thats why I use google to see the distances between, if you can understand that?

Thank you ever so much for tracking down the link, it looked like I was getting myself into a right muddle, if these records were rope I would have tied myself up 10 times over. I can now start working on this line and finding all the other 465 heirs, ha ha!!


Thanks again

Vicky

and my apologies claras father is not Joseph Mitchell!!

don't understand the 1871 cencus, yes it is Beatrice's mother but how does this link to the 1891 cencus exactly? or link to clara mitchell 1884?

Maureen - the !st one is coorect where Clara Mitchell (born Ilkston Derbyshire) married Charles Poskitt and was her only husband and her father is a Joseph Mitchell 1849 Kimbolton I believe.

Finally the positive link:

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Clara Mitchell
Name: Clara Mitchell
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1885
Parish: Cullingworth, St John
Baptism Date: 21 Feb 1886
Father's Name: Thomas William Mitchell
Mother's Name: Fanny Mitchell
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1891 census transcription details for: Parsons Row, Bread Baker Lane, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe, Outwood
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3746 Folio: 37 Page: 27


Reg. District: Wakefield Sub District: Stanley
Parish: Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Enum. District: 2
Ecclesiastical District: Outwood City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Parsons Row, Bread Baker Lane, Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe, Outwood
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)

MITCHELL, Thomas William Head Married M 31 1860 Porter G N R
Iver Heath
Buckinghamshire
MITCHELL, Fanny Wife Married F 21 1870
Southampton
MITCHELL, Clara Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Cullingworth
Yorkshire
MITCHELL, Emma Daughter F 3 1888
Outwood
Yorkshire
MITCHELL, Agnes Daughter F 1 1890
Outwood
Yorkshire
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1871 census transcription details for: Iver Heath, Iver

RG number: RG10 Piece: 1398 Folio: 93 Page: 10


Reg. District: Eton Sub District: Iver
Parish: Iver Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Iver Heath, Iver
County: Buckinghamshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
MITCHELL, John Head M 47 1824 Buckinghamshire
MITCHELL, Emma Wife F 46 1825 Gloucestershire
MITCHELL, Emma Daughter F 15 1856 Middlesex
>>>>>MITCHELL, Thomas W Son M 12 1859 Buckinghamshire (Clara's father)
MITCHELL, Rosennia Daughter F 10 1861 Buckinghamshire
MITCHELL, Sarah Daughter F 8 1863 Buckinghamshire
>>>>>MITCHELL, Agnes Daughter F 7 1864 Buckinghamshire (Beatrice's mother)
MITCHELL, Clara Daughter F 4 1867 Buckinghamshire
MITCHELL, Herbert E Son M 2 1869 Buckinghamshire
MITCHELL, Richard J Son M 0 1871 Buckinghamshire


Maureen

O.K.,Vicky.

Starting from the top.

Is this your Clara??

Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
MITCHELL Clara Chorlton 8c 1347
POSKITT Charles William Chorlton 8c 1347

1911 census transcription details for: 1 Durham St Glasshoughton
RG14PN27510 RG78PN1574 RD505 SD4 ED24 SN11


Reg. District: Pontefract Sub District: Castleford
Parish: Glass Houghton Enum. District: 24
Address: 1 Durham St Glasshoughton
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
PASKITT, Charles William Head Married M 35 1876 Coal Miner Hewe Glass Houghton Yorks
PASKITT, Clara Wife Married
4 years F 25 1886 Illingworth Yorks
PASKITT, Mary Ellen Daughter F 11 1900 School Castleford Yorks
PASKITT, Eva Daughter F 3 1908 Glasshoughton Yorks


From Lancs OPC:
Marriage: 27 Apr 1907 St Clement, Chorlton-cum-Hardy, Lancashire, England
Charles William Poskitt - Full Labourer Widower of 9 Hartley Rd. C. C. H.
Clara Mitchell - 21 Spinster of 9 Hartley Rd. C. C. H.
Groom's Father: William Poskitt, Labourer
Bride's Father: Thomas William Mitchell, Miner
Witness: John Poskitt; Nellie Poskitt
Married by Banns by: F. E. Thomas Rector
Register: Marriages 1838 - 1914, Page 205, Entry 409
Source: LDS Film 1408888


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So who is this?? This looks more to me like the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth than the other one does!

Marriages Jun 1903
Buckley George Pontefract 9c 261
Mitchell Clara Pontefract 9c 261

1911 census transcription details for: 22 Balfour Street Houghton-Le-Spring
RG14PN30053 RG78PN1736 RD553 SD1 ED2 SN242


Reg. District: Houghton Le Spring Sub District: Houghton Le Spring
Parish: Houghton Le Spring Enum. District: 2
Address: 22 Balfour Street Houghton-Le-Spring
County: Durham
BUCKLEY, George Head Married M 28 1883 Tramway Motorman Leeds Yorks
BUCKLEY, Clara Wife Married
8 years F 25 1886 Derbyshire
BUCKLEY, Florence May Daughter F 7 1904 School Leeds Yorks
BUCKLEY, Constance Evelyne Daughter F 6 1905 School Scarborough Yorks
BUCKLEY, George Son M 4 1907 Houghton Le Spring Co Durham
BUCKLEY, Winifred Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1910 Houghton Le Spring Co Durham


So do you have an incorrect tree going on??

Maureen

I'll give it another shot over the weekend. Right now I'm not seeing the forest for the trees!

Maureen

i know who inherited I have paperwork regarding the division of Beatrices estate in 1981 ( although she died in 1971).

Clara Mitchell's Children were given a 469th or so share of the estate . So I know there must be a connection somewhere along the line Due to the inhereitence laws only 1st cousins/removed can benefit, therefor Clara and Beatrice have to be 1st cousins..

Claras children, Eva, Elsie, Gladys and Phyllis were all born in Glasshoughton West yorkshire and lived in area all their lives.

Hi Vicky,

That's the problem. I really don't see any obvious connection between Beatrice's Mitchells and yours. Possibly just a coincidence that that was her mother's maiden name?

Do you have an actual copy of the will or do you know who inherited?

Just wondering if the person in your family was a close friend,neighbour,caregiver,etc. (or none of the above...).

Maureen

Thanks Maureen but the information you give me does not connect in any way to my tree unless you can see a connection somewhere!!

your not tortuing me, I'm enjoying it even though it is very time consuming and sometimes a pain in the butt!!

Regards

Vicky

But that's what I was blabbering on about before!

Agnes 1870 (Daniel's) did NOT marry Thomas Timms. I think she married a Frederick Mumford.

The Agnes who married Thomas Timms was the daughter of John and Emma Mitchell. Born about 1864 in Iver,Bucks.

Here they are in 1891:

1891 census transcription details for: Swallow Street, Iver

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 1133 Folio: 72 Page: 15


Reg. District: Eton Sub District: Iver
Parish: Iver Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Margarets City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Swallow Street, Iver
County: Buckinghamshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
TIMMS, Thomas Henry Head Married M 21 1870 Hay Dealer
Iver Heath
Buckinghamshire
TIMMS, Agnes Wife Married F 26 1865
Iver Heath
Buckinghamshire
Living next to John and Emma.

Sorry,I feel like I'm torturing you!!!

Maureen

daniel 1792 -son john 1816- son joesph 1848 - daughter clara 1885 (my g grand mother)
- son daniel 1829 - daughter agnes 1870 - daughter beatrice timms 1891.

john 1816 and daniel 1829 brothers by different mothers, same father.

Well,I don't see the connection. Must be thick. Sorry.

Maureen

Daniel Mitchell 1791 has no connection to William Mitchell in derbyshire.

Daniel is my gggg grandfather, and also the g grandfather of Beatrice timms, who was the original person i was trying to trace. I'm overjoyed at finding the connection as all we had was a piece of paper with a name and nothing more.

once again thanks to everyone who has helped me make this connection! :-)

OOOh! Do tell! Where/who was the link??

Maureen

After going over census forms and the help of Mel I have finally made my link that I was looking for.

Thank you all who have put time in to look for me. and Mel your a star!! :-D

thanks for all the information!! it is appreciated.

Still no closer to finding the link though!!! lol, the quest continues :-D