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28 Aug 2011 18:03 |
I have reason to believe this is my grandmothers father. He was born in Dalton Lancashire in 1857 as seen on the 1901 census he was living in Dudley in Northumberland with his Wife Mary Edith who was born in Broughton On Furnace Lancashire in 1859, sons Joshua born in Dudley Northumberland in 1898 & John J born in Dalton Lancashire in 1891, daughters Elizabeth Jane born in Dudley Northumberland in 1895 & Sarah A born in Dudley Northumberland 1900, and in 1911 Annie born in Killingworth Northumberland in 1899 & my grandmother Isabella born in Killingworth Northumberland in 1904.
If anyone can shed some light on these people, it will be much appreciated.
Many thanks Barbz
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28 Aug 2011 18:07 |
Just putting so we can see clearly:
JENNINGS, Mo Head Widower M 52 1859 Stone Man In Civil Mine Lancashire Dalton in Furness VIEW JENNINGS, Jno T Son Single M 19 1892 Coal Miner Putter And Hewer Lancashire Wigan VIEW JENNINGS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 15 1896 Nthland Killingworth VIEW JENNINGS, Joshua Son Single M 13 1898 Pony Driver In Coal Mine Nthland Killingworth VIEW JENNINGS, Annie Daughter F 12 1899 Pony School Coal Mine Nthland Killingworth VIEW JENNINGS, Isabella Daughter F 6 1905 Nthland Killingworth VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 30773 Reference: RG14PN30773 RG78PN1759 RD559 SD3 ED2 SN83 Registration District: Tynemouth Sub District: Longbenton Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Weetslade Address: 3 Hazlerigg St Dudley S O Northumberland County: Northumberland
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28 Aug 2011 18:09 |
Oops,this must be the one! What evidence have you got for Isabella's father's name - her marriage cert maybe?
JENNINGS, John Head Married M 40 1871 Draining For Urban Council Durham Gateshead VIEW JENNINGS, Isabella Wife Married 17 years F 41 1870 Durham Gateshead VIEW JENNINGS, Catharine Daughter Single F 16 1895 Packer In Drysaltry Store Durham Gateshead VIEW JENNINGS, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1897 School Durham Gateshead VIEW JENNINGS, Mary Daughter F 12 1899 School Durham Gateshead VIEW JENNINGS, Thomas Son M 10 1901 School Durham Gateshead VIEW JENNINGS, Isabella Daughter F 8 1903 School Durham Gateshead VIEW JENNINGS, Nellie Daughter F 5 1906 Durham Gateshead VIEW JENNINGS, Norah Daughter F 2 1909 Durham Gateshead VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 30658 Reference: RG14PN30658 RG78PN1756 RD558 SD6 ED2 SN118 Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Byker Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Byker Address: 3 Bryson St Shieldfield Newcastle on Tyne County: Northumberland
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MargaretM
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28 Aug 2011 18:15 |
The only marriage I can see for John Jenniings & Mary Edith was 1881, Ulverston. Were they married that early? Do you have them in 1891?
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Barbz
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28 Aug 2011 18:54 |
the addressess: 1901 7 Simmons Bldg, Weetslade and 1911 3 Hazlerigg St, Dudley, Northumberland census are family in question.
i cannot find a census in 1891 that show them both, i am questioning if john jennings was married prior to mary edith as john j jennings was born in 1891. but i could be wrong.
my grandmother isabella lived in Dudley, and as far back as i can recall she may have lived there all of her life.
Thanks Barbz x
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28 Aug 2011 18:56 |
From what i have seen on FreeBMD
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JENNINGS John Tynemouth 10b 279
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jennings John William Hull 9d 519
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jennings John Halifax 9a 617 Jennings John Thomas King's N. 6c 671
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JENNINGS John Merthyr T. 11a 828 JENNINGS John Henry Wigan 8c 185
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28 Aug 2011 18:57 |
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you know her father's name was John for certain? You say 'I have reason to believe this is my grandmothers father.' - why? jan
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28 Aug 2011 19:09 |
Is this John with wife Mary Edith living with inlaws in 1881
Name: John Jennings Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Dalton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: West Broughton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Low Wood Stile Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Iron Miner Registration district: Ulverston Sub-registration district: West Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4283 Folio: 31 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Robert Parkinson 74 Tamar Parkinson 73 John Jennings 22 Mary E. Jennings 18
If so then the marriage Margee foung is them
Name: John Jones Jennings Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Registration district: Ulverston Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 8e Page Number: 967 others on same page
Thomas Wilson Bell Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Ulverston Lancashire
>>>>>John Jones Jennings Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Ulverston Lancashire
Elizabeth Johnson Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Ulverston Lancashire
>>>>>>Mary Edith Parkinson Jan-Feb-Mar 1881 Ulverston Lancashire
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Barbz
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28 Aug 2011 19:26 |
Well, John Jennings is the head of the family on the census, as above. I should know more late next week as I am waiting for my grandma's birth certificate to come through the post. I have been messed about by 3 registrars offices, they are each telling me that the certificate is with the other. After what has taken almost 2 weeks of looking, my grandma was born in Killingworth, Northumberland, and Newcastle Registrars office should have this document, as advised by North Shields and Morpeth Registrars, it is not with them.
Thanks Barbz x
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MarieCeleste
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28 Aug 2011 19:33 |
Hi Barbz - why not order her birth certificate on-line from General Register Office (GRO). Costs no more at £9.25 than getting it from the office.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
This is the reference you need:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Isabella Jennings Name: Isabella Jennings Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904 Registration district: Tynemouth Inferred County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 301
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28 Aug 2011 19:36 |
why don't you get your certs from the GRO its very easy you can do it all online using the GRO info
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Roy
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28 Aug 2011 19:43 |
These ar the only births I can see on FreeBMD that could be your grandma. She must be the Tynemouth one?
Births Jun 1904 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JENNINGS Isabella Tynemouth 10b 301 JENNINGS Isabella Gateshead 10a 1037 JENNINGS Isabella Southwark 1d 82
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Barbz
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29 Aug 2011 09:22 |
My grandmother Isabella Jennings was born on 24 April 1904, married to Thomas Newton Bewick in Tynemouth 1923, and died in 1992 in Walkergate Hospital in Newcastle upon Tyne.
Hope this information helps.
Barbz x
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29 Aug 2011 10:28 |
1901
Name: John Jennings Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary E Jennings Gender: Male Where born: Dalton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Weetslade Ecclesiastical parish: Killingworth St John Town: Dudley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Longbenton ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Piece: 4807 Folio: 93 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age John Jennings 44 Mary E Jennings 42 b. Broughton in Furness John T Jennings 10 Elizabeth J Jennings 5 Joshua Jennings 3 Sarah A Jennings 1
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29 Aug 2011 10:37 |
Deaths Sep 1907 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jennings Mary Edith 46 Tynemouth 10b 137 _____________________________________________________
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1891 JENNINGS John Thomas Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/180/78
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29 Aug 2011 10:50 |
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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1856 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference JENNINGS John Wigan Wigan & Leigh JENNINGS WIG/45/415
This would fit with his birthplace as per 1881 and 1901
I think that stating in 1911 that his birth was in Dalton in Furness was a mistake.
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Barbz
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29 Aug 2011 10:58 |
Dalton Lancashire is near Skelmersdale.
As per Wikipedia: Skelmersdale is a town in West Lancashire, England. It lies on high-ground on the River Tawd, 6 miles (10 km) to the west of Wigan, 13 miles (21 km) to the northeast of Liverpool, 15 miles (24 km) south-southwest of Preston. As of 2006, Skelmersdale had a population of 38,813,[1] down from 41,000 in 2004. The town is known locally as Skem. The first recorded use of the name Skelmersdale appears in the Domesday Book of 1086. It was under the rule of Uctred as part of the hundred of West Derby. The urbanisation and development of Skelmersdale largely coincided with the Industrial Revolution. Industrial scale coal mining began in the early 19th century and continued to expand during that century to give rise to Skelmersdale as an important colliery village.
Broughton On Furness is now in Cumbria, even though it states on the 1901 census that it is Lancashire. Maybe it was back then.
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Barbz
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29 Aug 2011 11:02 |
I was also thinking of Wigan for searching his birth records as the nearest town is Dalton.
Thanks Barbz x
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29 Aug 2011 11:02 |
1891
Name: Mary E Jones Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Jones Gender: Female Where born: Broughton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Wigan Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Wigan ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3050 Folio: 127 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age John Jones 31 b. Dalton Mary E Jones 30 Edith Jones 9 b. Dalton
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29 Aug 2011 11:04 |
Dalton in Furness - and all of that area - was in Lancashire until 1974
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