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HELP Another problem to solve with this family

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brillo

brillo Report 14 Sep 2011 12:39

Sorry William Lee did end up living with his son William in Battersea

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Sep 2011 12:44

When was his son William born please?

brillo

brillo Report 14 Sep 2011 12:49

sorry made a mistake William born 1830 ended up living with son william born 1847. Its William born 1847 death that i am looking for . Sorry for confusion

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Sep 2011 13:22

Thats ok Brillo we all get muddled with our trees sometimes.

I cannot find your William on the 1891 census at all. He must be mistranscribed.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Sep 2011 13:27

I have to go out this afternoon.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Sep 2011 13:33

Just had a quick look at the 1881 census and William Lee 1830 is living next door to William amd Maria at 39. William and Maria are at 37.

brillo

brillo Report 14 Sep 2011 15:04

Hello how do you find out that they are living next door. How can I see who is living at each Williams address Thanks

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Sep 2011 17:41

I can see the actual census forms because I have a sub. to Ancestry. William Junior is living at 37 then there is the next household of which William Lee senior is the head of the house.

1881 England Census
about William Lee
Name: William Lee
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Lee
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 37 Park Grove
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Lathe Render

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 649
Folio: 86
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Lee 34
Maria Lee 34
Louise Lee 11
Harry Lee 10
Minnie Lee 8
Edith Lee 6
Edward Blackwell 21

This family is split as the children go over the page and after them is Williwm senior at the next address of 39 but he has been transcribed as 37 also.


1881 England Census
about William Lee
Name: William Lee
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwood, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 37 Park Grove (SHOULD READ 39, PARK GROVE)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Occupation: General Dealer

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 649
Folio: 86
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Lee 51

This William is a general Dealer as was listed on the marriage of William and Maria.

Julie

Julie Report 14 Sep 2011 18:05

Flick Report 14 Sep 2011 12:24

Where did they live?......Battersea & Fulham

Which census is the last on which you have found them together? 1881

Is the death in 1901 that of his wife? Yes..oops no it's not her death, sorry got chemo brain

Have you thought that he may have moved? Perhaps to live with a son or daughter?
On later census & from what i know the family stayed in Battersea or Fulham

How am i able to answers the questions above...... We come from the same family & Brillo is my Aunt

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Sep 2011 18:22

William Lee 1830 Norwood Surrey is still at the same address on the 1891 census and mistranscribed yet again with the family living next door but this time is is not William Lee juior but the family of Benjamin Emery who lives at 37 and William has 39 living in 2 rooms a Shop General Dealer. William is now a Widower.

1891 England Census
about William Lee
Name: William Lee
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwood, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:39,Park Grove

Occupation: Shop. General Dealer***********

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 422
Folio: 93
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Emery 52
Emma Emery 51
Henry Thomas Emery 12

William Lee 60 ***********


brillo

brillo Report 14 Sep 2011 18:35

Thanks Mel Fairy Godmother and Flick and Julie

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 14 Sep 2011 21:02

Your welcome........... :-)

Flick

Flick Report 15 Sep 2011 09:01

If anyone has access to the WIlls on Ancestry, Maria's proved Will is apparently on the site.............it may prove illuminating

Flick

Flick Report 15 Sep 2011 09:10

Burial index equating to death record posted earlier

Name: William Lee
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1909
Burial Date: 27 May 1909
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Parish or Poor Law Union: Tooting Graveney
Borough: Wandsworth
County: Surrey

He died in the Union Infirmary

Flick

Flick Report 15 Sep 2011 09:21

Name: Louisa Maria Lee
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1869
Baptism Date: 12 Dec 1869
Father's Name: William Lee
Mother's Name: Maria Lee
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clapham Holy Trinity
Borough: Lambeth
________________________________________________

Name: Louisa Maria Lee
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Spouse Name: Austin Long
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1900
Parish: St Nicholas, Tooting Graveney ***************************
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: William Lee
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Long
_________________________________________________

1901

Name: Louisa Long
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Austin Long
Gender: Female
Where born: Clapham, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Tooting Graveney
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Tooting Graveney
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 234
Piece: 469
Folio: 123
Page Number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
Austin Long 29
Louisa Long 30
Seneta Long 12
Austin Long 6
Albert Long 4
Ethel Long 1
Jessie Proctor 20
Thomas Down 31
Edward Tee 26


brillo

brillo Report 15 Sep 2011 14:33

Thanks Flick what is a union infirmary tho.I assume a nursing home of some sort x Will have to try to investigate about the will of Maria. Thankyou for your help tho very much appreciated.

Flick

Flick Report 15 Sep 2011 17:08

Just the hospital for the area.............

brillo

brillo Report 15 Sep 2011 17:10

Ok Thanks for that.

brillo

brillo Report 11 Oct 2011 16:37

In the 1891 census I have Duke Lee( his name is William Lee) Born in clapham. The family are correct on this census. It seems ther was twin girls Lilly and Minnie born 1873 in Battersea, London. I cannot find anything on Lilly can anyone find out anything about her please. Many Thanks To You All

brillo

brillo Report 11 Oct 2011 18:23

:-)