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Murphy family from London

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Michael

Michael Report 4 Aug 2011 20:59

HI all, need help to find my grandmothers family.
Florence Eileen Mary Murphy born 17/10/1901 Lambeth, London. She married my grandfather Frank William Richard Andrews 1904 from Alton Hants at The Church Of Our Lady, St. Marylebone on 15/08/1931.
The marriage was solemnized in the presence of Charles Jeremiah Murphy(her father) and A.E Murphy who is yet to be identified. She may have had a younger sister Viv but can find no records for her or the mother.

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 4 Aug 2011 21:04

Possibility 1911

MURPHY, James Head Married
29 years M 49 1862 Lighterman London Southwark
MURPHY, Emily Wife Married F 48 1863 Fur Factory London Southwark
MURPHY, Kate Daughter Single F 20 1891 Fur Factory London Southwark
MURPHY, John Son Single M 17 1894 Assisting Restaurant London Southwark
MURPHY, Margaretta Daughter F 14 1897 Chemical Works London Southwark
MURPHY, William Son M 12 1899 School London Southwark
MURPHY, Florence Daughter F 10 1901 School London Southwark

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RG number:RG14 Piece:1754
Reference:RG14PN1754 RG78PN61 RD23 SD1 ED5 SN135

Registration District:Southwark
Sub District:Christchurch and St Saviour Southwark Enumeration District:5
Parish:St Saviour Southwark

Address:8 a Streets Buildings Sumner St Southwark S E County:London

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 4 Aug 2011 21:04

Name Florence Eileen M Murphy
Year of Registration 1901
Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Lambeth
Registration County London
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 1D
Volume Page 480

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 21:06

what was her father's occupation

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 21:07

a possible, although not born Lambeth

1911 census

Address: 25 Tilson Road Peckham

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

MURPHY, C Head Married M 43 1868 Purveror Of Horse Flesh Watford
MURPHY, E Wife Married 22 years F 40 1871 Household Work Camberwells
MURPHY, Frances Daughter Single F 21 1890 Sorter Peckham
MURPHY, Emily Daughter Single F 19 1892 A Paper Pattern Folder Peckham
MURPHY, Lizzie Daughter Single F 17 1894 A Paper Pattern Folder Peckham
MURPHY, Charles Son M 14 1897 In A Bakehouse Peckham
MURPHY, Florence Daughter Single F 12 1899 At School Peckham
MURPHY, Dora Daughter Single F 11 1900 At School Peckham
MURPHY, Arthur Son Single M 7 1904 At School Peckham
MURPHY, Lilian Daughter Single F 2 1909 At Home Peckham

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 4 Aug 2011 21:08

Do you have her birth or marriage certificate for her parent's names? The marriage would hopefully give her father's name

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 4 Aug 2011 21:13

Name Florence E M Murphy
Year of Marriage 1931
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Marylebone
Registration County London
Spouse's Surname Andrews
Volume Number 1A
Volume Page 1649

Spouse Match: Florence E M MURPHY married Frank W R ANDREWS

Name Frank W R Andrews
Year of Marriage 1931
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Marylebone
Registration County London
Spouse's Surname Murphy
Volume Number 1A
Volume Page 1649

Michael

Michael Report 4 Aug 2011 21:17

Her fathers occupation was electrical engineer as stated on her marriage certificate.

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 21:43

is this is a possible

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Jeremiah Charles Murphy (engineer)
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Frost
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1890
Parish: St Mary Magdalene
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Timothy Murphy (gas fitter)
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Frost (deceased)

address of both Linton Road Old Kent Road

Michael

Michael Report 4 Aug 2011 22:02

thank you Tempest

I have Charles as c1875 but that isn't to say that my date is correct.
However, my grandmother was born 11yrs later from the marriage of Charles to Mary Ann Frost, so unless she was a younger child of a larger family than I am led to believe, then I would have to assume that this is not a match.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Aug 2011 22:44

1901

MURPHY, Jeremiah C Head Married M 36 1865 Plumber
London
MURPHY, Mary A Wife Married F 34 1867
Shoreditch
London
MURPHY, Ruebin C Son M 10 1891
Walworth
London
MURPHY, Albert T Son M 8 1893
Walworth
London
MURPHY, William G Son M 7 1894
Peckham
London
MURPHY, Cyril J Son M 6 1895
Peckham
London
BENJAMIN, Gilbert Son M 3 1898
London
MURPHY, James Son M 1 1900
Newington
London

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
431 Folio:
22 Page:
36

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Brixton Enumeration District:
43 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Matthews

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
71, Saltoun Road, Lambeth County:
London


Name: Cyril John Murphy
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1896
Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1896
Father's name: Jeremiah Charles Murphy (Engineer)
Mother's name: Mary Ann Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Peckham St Andrew
Borough: Southwark

Name: Gilbert Benjamin James Murphy
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1900
Baptism Date: 3 Oct 1900
Father's name: Charles Murphy (Engineer)
Mother's name: Mary Ann Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Brixton St Matthew
Borough: Lambeth


These fit with Marriage posted by Tempest...could that witness be the Albert Murphy on above Census?...

Chris :)

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 Aug 2011 22:55

1901 could someone see what this mans job was in 1901?
Name: Charles J Murphy
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances Murphy
Gender: Male
Where born: Pimlico, London, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England


Household Members:
Name Age
Charles J Murphy 31
Frances Murphy 24
Charles F Murphy 1

no don't think its him this looks like them in 1911

Reg. District: Wandsworth Sub District: Streatham
Parish: Wandsworth Borough Enum. District: 80
Address: 2 Coverton Road Tooting S W
County: London

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
MURPHY, Charles James Henry Head Married M 41 1870 Telephone Inspector London Westminster
MURPHY, Frances Wife Married
12 years F 34 1877 London Bethnal Green
MURPHY, Charles Frederick Son M 11 1900 School London Lambeth
MURPHY, George Edward Son M 9 1902 School London Lambeth
MURPHY, Francis Carl Son M 3 1908 London Wandsworth
DANIELS, Francis Mother Widow F 53 1858 Card-Board Box Maker London Bethnal Green


tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 23:01

interesting job!!

1901 census
Address: 11, Bromfelde Road, Lambeth

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

MURPHY, Charles J Head Married M 31 1870 Fault Finger & Inspector Telephone Pimlico London
MURPHY, Frances Wife Married F 24 1877 Bethnal Green London
MURPHY, Charles F Son Single M 1 1900 Kensington London

jansmith

jansmith Report 4 Aug 2011 23:03

Thanks for looking Tempest

tempest

tempest Report 4 Aug 2011 23:06

you're welcome jan

Michael

Michael Report 5 Aug 2011 16:02

1901 census
Address: 11, Bromfelde Road, Lambeth

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

MURPHY, Charles J Head Married M 31 1870 Fault Finger & Inspector Telephone Pimlico London
MURPHY, Frances Wife Married F 24 1877 Bethnal Green London
MURPHY, Charles F Son Single M 1 1900 Kensington London

This find looks promising...thank you for finding this one Tempest and thank you all for your time and suggestions.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Aug 2011 16:22

Name: Charles James Henry Murphy (Electrical Engineer)
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Spouse Name: Frances Alabaster
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 18 Dec 1898
Parish: All Saints, South Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Charles Murphy (Clerk)
Spouse Father Name: Jack Alabaster (Deceased)

Chris :)

(also)
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
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MURPHY Leonard W Alabaster Wandsworth 1d 1231


(not seeing the family of Jeremiah C and Mary A 1911)...


Michael

Michael Report 6 Aug 2011 10:59

Hi Chris Ho ;)

The 1911 census is definitely proving to be a problem. If Charles Jeremiah Murphy had filled it in then my grandmother would have been 9/10yrs old at the time.
Regards.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Aug 2011 13:46

Michael...Might be worthwhile checking this out 1911 Census...Sorry
I dont have access...

She is the only "Vivian" Murphy I can find ....Location 1911 Farnham

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
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Murphy Vivian Audrey Farnham 2a 142

tempest

tempest Report 6 Aug 2011 14:26

Eringobragh, here's a Vivian on 1911 census

Address: Thames Villa Highland Road Aldershot

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

MURPHY, Daniel Head Married 19 years M 43 1868 Army Pensioner Canteen Manager Cork Cork Resident
MURPHY, Minnie Wife Married F 37 1874 Cork Cork Resident
MURPHY, Edward Son Single M 14 1897 Layer-On Letter Press Machine Kings County Birr Resident
MURPHY, Eva Daughter F 13 1898 School Kings County Birr Resident
MURPHY, Cecil Son M 8 1903 Kent Dover
MURPHY, Edwin Son M 6 1905 Cork Fermoy Resident
MURPHY, Lionel Son M 4 1907 Mauritins Resident
MURPHY, Vivian Daughter F 1 1910 Hampshire Aldershot