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Aidan

Aidan Report 27 Jul 2011 20:09

Hi could anyone help or advise me in how I would find a person Antonia Grima born in Malta 20th Feb 1926, married a Edward Cook in 1949 Essex england.
I am looking for siblings or parents of hers in Malta, How or where would I search for this information please?
Any advice would be truly appreciated, Thanks again

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 27 Jul 2011 20:39

There is someone on Genes called Sheila who has Antonia Grima in her tree (although has birth year as 1925).
If you use the "search trees" button and look for Antonia Grima you will find Sheila's name. If you click on it you will be able to contact her and she may have the information you are looking for.

Kath. x

Aidan

Aidan Report 27 Jul 2011 22:56

Very much appreciated Chris and Kath, very kind of you both, thanks again

patchem

patchem Report 27 Jul 2011 23:25

English marriage certificate will have her Father's name on it.

Marriages Dec 1949
Cook Edward C Grima Chelsford 4a 969
Grima Antonia Cook Chelmsford 4a 969

Are they still alive?

Aidan

Aidan Report 27 Jul 2011 23:51

Hi Patchem, No they are both deceased, I have today sent off for the marriage certificate, I would have liked to have got Antonias birth certificate to venture further to Malta, Thank you Patchem, much appreciated..

Aidan

Aidan Report 5 Aug 2011 15:53

Hi, I have obtained the marriage certificate, it shows the marriage on the 15th october 1949 in chelmsford. it also shows edwards father as William Cook deceased and profession as army pensioner. Antonia and Edward were residing at home farm Hylands Widford.
Antonias father is Raphael Grima also deceased he was a dock yard labourer in Malta.
Edward was in the royal navy as leading airman, i believe on the ark royal. sorry to go on, but i am struggling finding any further info, any suggestions? many thanks again.
After getting the birth certificate for Edward i am looking for his mother a leonora cook.. leonora was a domestic cook at 17 collins cross bishops stortford. Residence address in 1919 shows only 70 se Charles square .

sorry not much info here, its a shot in the dark. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you

Potty

Potty Report 5 Aug 2011 15:59

This site might help:

http://malta-family-history.blogspot.com/

Janet

Janet Report 5 Aug 2011 23:11

Aiden, if you have Edward's birth certificate could you give us details please.
What is Edward's dob and Leonora's maiden name?

Aidan

Aidan Report 6 Aug 2011 11:37

Hi Janet, Edwards birth certificate says b 5th October 1919 Kensington, although he was registered on the 17th October,although his death certificate says b on the 8th on which he celebrated his birthday, confusing !!

Birth certificate does not show Leonoras maiden name just Cook and no fathers name, although Edwards marriage certificate shows father as William cook deceased army pensioner.
Its become very difficult trying to work through all this, thanks for your help everyone.

Aidan

Aidan Report 6 Aug 2011 11:38

Thanks Potty, much appreciated

Potty

Potty Report 6 Aug 2011 11:42

Aidan, do you have his origninal birth cert or a later copy? 5 and 8 can easily be confused on handwritten records.

Aidan

Aidan Report 6 Aug 2011 11:49

Its a copy of the original Certificate Potty and leonora was a domestic cook at 17 collins cross bishops stortford in 1919. Residence address in 1919 shows only 70 se Charles square .

patchem

patchem Report 6 Aug 2011 13:05

If there is no Father on the birth certificate he is probably illegitimate, and the Father's name on the marriage certificate is just an invention. This could be what Leonora told him, or what he had invented for himself. Do you have any other information on Leonora, such as age?
Thanks

Aidan

Aidan Report 7 Aug 2011 15:03

Sorry Patchem I know it was a long shot, but I have nothing else on the certificates only Edward was born at 70 St Charles Square Kensington and the informant was H G Commings of the same address in 1919. looks like a dead end I guess, thanks for all your time everyone, really much appreciated. Aidan

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 7 Aug 2011 15:26

Sorry, but could you clarify please..
Edward was born in Kensington, but his mother Leonora's address was in Bishop Stortford...??

Perhaps Bishop Stortford was a family address. I would want to check if other COOKs lived there too.

Gwyn

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 7 Aug 2011 15:40

Pure guesswork, ... but something to consider..?

Births Sep 1891

COOK Leonora ..... St. Saviour 1d 19

EDIT
What were the names of the witnesses to the marriage?

Gwyn

Aidan

Aidan Report 7 Aug 2011 18:12


Hi Gwyn, Yes Edward was born at 70 St Charles square, Kensington; his Mother Worked as a domestic cook at 17 collins cross bishops stortford.
Marriage details - PROFESSION OF GROOM Leading Airman Fleet Air Arm Royal Navy ,
RESIDENCE AT TIME OF MARRIAGE BOTH PARTIES Home Farm Hylands Widford
WITNESS NAMES J Pearl RW Everard
I will check out the birth date of what you gave me, thank you Glyn.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 8 Aug 2011 15:46

Aidan,

look what I've come across......... too much of a coincedence I think!!!

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1930 (>99%)
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Cook Leonora K Pearl B.Stortford 3a 2080
Pearl John W Cook B. Stortford 3a 2080


This could be Edwards mothers marriage marrying the witness on Edwards marriage certificate J Pearl!!!


Her death which ties nicely into Edwards area of marriage;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Leonora K Pearl Name: Leonora K Pearl
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1941
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 1383


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 8 Aug 2011 15:58

Having trouble finding a birth for Leonora........ so I wonder if she switched her 2 names around???


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1888 (>99%)
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COOK Kate Leonora Cosford 4a 698


Just a theory.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 8 Aug 2011 16:00

Don't have subs for the 1911 census, but wonder about this;

HOUSEHOLD COOK NORAH KATE F 1888 23 St George London

Born in SUFFOLK!!!