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Born c1854 and died in 1902. He married Emma Minnie ???
I am trying to find out Emmas surname and how many kids they had

thanks

gina

Gina

Have you tried looking on freebmd, it should be listed

1901 England Census
about Alfred W Rooms
Name: Alfred W Rooms
[Alfred Roomes]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma M Rooms
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luke, London, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Fitzroy Square
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent's Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 130
Folio: 14
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred W Rooms 45
Emma M Rooms 44
Ada E Rooms 21
Alfred G R Rooms 20
Clara A Rooms 18
Elizabeth H Rooms 16
Robert Rooms 13
Henry Rooms 11

i cannot find it on freebmd

Just took a look and I cant see them either, maybe they never married?

According to a tree on Ancestry he married this lady


Births Mar 1857
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Brain Emma Minnie Bethnal Green 1c 304


But if we cant find a marriage then it cant be confirmed

1881 England Census
about Emma Brain
Name: Emma Brain
[Emma Brame]
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Mother in Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 4a New St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 363
Folio: 78
Page Number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Room 25
Emma M. Room 24
Emma Brain 54
Minnie Room 1
Gilbert Room

cool thanks Ginny

One of childrens baptism to confirm full nmaes

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Clara Amy Roomes Name: Clara Amy Roomes
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1883
Baptism Date: 4 Feb 1883
Father's name: Alfred William Roomes
Mother's name: Emma Minine Roomes
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St Paul
Borough: Islington

Andy

Ive checked a couple of the baptisms (to check if only the mother was registered) and London Banns and it looks like they never married

did you find the bap for daughter, Elizabeth?

Emma died in 1906

Heres some of children in 1911



TURTON, Edward Head Married M 31 1880 Painter House London St Pancras
TURTON, Ada Wife Married
5 years F 30 1881 London St Lukes
ROOMES, Robert Brother In Law Single M 23 1888 Parker London St Lukes
ROOMES, Henry Brother In Law Single M 21 1890 Cahffeur London St Pancras
ROOMES, Elizabeth Sister In Law Single F 25 1886 Picker Bottler London St Lukes


RG number:
RG14 Piece:
780 Reference:
RG14PN780 RG78PN27 RD10 SD1 ED5 SN288

Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Tufnell Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Islington

Address:
35 Poynings Road Junction Road N County:
London

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Elizabeth Eleanor Roomes
Name: Elizabeth Eleanor Roomes
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885
Baptism Date: 11 Jan 1885
Father's name: Alfred William Roomes
Mother's name: Minnie Roomes
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St Paul
Borough: Islington

thanks ginny

I am trying to find marriages for 4 of my Turtons, so far without much luck. Ann Elizabeth b. 1819, John William b.1821, Mary Ann b.1824 and Elizabeth b.1826. All births were in Holborn. Father was John Turton, a coach maker / builer. Any help would be welcomed as they are driving me mad.

Family from 1841 for ref

1841 England Census
about John Turton Name: John Turton
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Pancras
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Grays Inn Lane
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 682
Book: 13
Folio: 25
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
John Turton 45
Ann Turton 40
John Turton 20
Mary Ann Turton 17
Elizabeth Turton 15
Sarah Turton 12
William Turton 10
Thomas Turton 8
Henry Turton 6
Jemima Turton 4


Andy

Ann Elizabeth Turton b. 1819 Holborn is not with the family on the 1841 census. Are there any marriages that might be her before 1841? Father, John Turton, coach maker. There are two in 1839 reg. Lambeth, not sure if they are relevent.

Wrong father's name on this one:


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Ann Turton
Spouse Name: William Roberts Kennett
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Apr 1839
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Turton
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Kennett

(This is the only 1839 I can see for Lambeth)

She was born Holborn maybe she married there too. It is so hard to find things. Would Holborn come under Pancras reg district?

Wondering whether this could be John William's marriage as father is Coach Body Builder

Name: John Turton occ Paper Stainer
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Spouse Name: Sarah Stowers
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 03 Apr 1849
Parish: Christchurch Newgate Street
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: John Turton occ Coach Body Builder
Spouse Father Name: William Stowers occ Gas Fitter

Address for both: Ivy Lane

Witnesses: David Kinlay & Ann Turton