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Hi Vicci
Ive deleted the other post just not to confuse anyone .
Thanks Angie

Hi Vicci
I looked up Walter Peacock in 1911 and yes you are right he died.
Alice put most of her children in homes Gertrude and Kate Walters sisters were put in a convent in bath. But why she left Walter in Southampton only seem to tie up with the fact that she came to southampton to collect Walter weston medals. I dont think she was a caring mother I know my f in law hated her for dumping him as a child very sad.

Hi JUlie
Thanks for doing that for me its strange there was no number 56.
Alice puts that no on the form she signed 21/5/1919
You have been very helpful .
Regards Angie

I was at the special collections library in Southampton today so did some look ups for you but no luck . I looked in the Kelly's directories for 56 Lower Canal Walk but in 1919 there was no 56.
THe last reference I could find to this address was in 1905 when a John Elderfield lived there. 1906, 1907 and 1908 directories are missing but in 1909 there is no 56.
In 1912-1913 directory the only numbers in the fifties are 51 52 53 55 58 59. None for the war years but looked to 1924 and no 56. No one of these names in the street. I also looked at Canal Walk but nothing. Earliest electoral registers they hold are 1932
Lower Canal Walk was a very poor area of the city near the docks and known as The Ditches with shops opening out onto the street and people lodging in rooms above.

The other interesting point is how Alice was able to take possesion of the medals of Walter Weston, as they do not seem to have been married. Usually these would gone to next of kin, so maybe Walter made out a will in favour of Alice or his son.

Might be worth looking for the will of Walter Weston, possibly in Bath.

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Southampton/

Southampton Archives Service, Civic Centre, Southampton SO14 7LP. has a rich assortment of records going back as far as 1711. Holdings include: Guardians' minute books (1818-1930);

You might be able to fill in some gaps if they have records of your f-inlaw at the boys home in Southampton

1911 Person: O BRIEN, Kate
Address: Convent of Mercy Brecon Road Westbury on Trym (Bristol)

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
Edmonds Nellie O'Brien Bath 5c 522

EDMONDS, Thomas Head Widower M 56 1855 General Labourer Bath Somerset VIEW
EDMONDS, May Daughter Single F 18 1893 Corset Machinist Bath Somerset VIEW
EDMONDS, Stanley Son M 13 1898 School Bath Somerset VIEW
O BRIEN, Nellie Granddaughter F 14 1897 Bath Somerset VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14694 Reference:
RG14PN14694 RG78PN892 RD316 SD3 ED5 SN141

Registration District:
Bath Sub District:
Lyncombe Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Bath

Address:
10 Summerlays Cottages Widcombe Bath County:
Somersetshire

I can't find James O'Brien b. 1901
or what happened to Dennis O'Brien b. 1908 (unless he is the one who diede in 1911 but there is another Dennis O'Brien of the same age belonging to another family)

Looking at this tio see if can find Peacock connection or maybe lving relatives who would know what happened t Alice

HI Angie

It would be worth going to the library in Southampton to look at the electoral rolls for 1919 to see who was at that address.

I checked the 1911 census and there is a Walter Peacock living in Southampton then, but he appears to have died in 1914 so he can't be the Wally Peacock that your f-inlaw lived with. However he did have a son Walter E Peacock (married Dorothy Hiett in Lyndhurst Hampshire 1913)
(PEACOCK, Walter Ernest Boarder Single M 22 1889 Shop Assistant Grocery Kent Catford )

ofcourse this family may have no connection at all.

Hi Vicci
I wonder if thats her death but the age is a little out . I have research all the Obrien family when alice was living with Patrick. Alice . Do you think If I sent for this certificate it would say if she was a widow on it? Alice Obriens las t known address was on the collection of 1914 star . It was 56 lower canal walk southampton.she signed her name A.M. Obrien peacock 21.may.1919. Its very strange that my f.i.law was brought up by wally peacock in southampton.Is there anywhere I can find out who was living with her at the address in 1919?
Angie thanks again for the war details

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Deaths Dec 1942 (>99%)
O'Brien Alice M 59 Wells 5c 447

O BRIEN, Patrick Head Married M 25 1876 Masons Labourer
Bath
Somersetshire VIEW
O BRIEN, Alice Wife Married F 23 1878 Laundress
Bath
Somersetshire VIEW
O BRIEN, Kate Daughter F 2 1899
Bath
Somersetshire VIEW
O BRIEN, James Son M 0 (6 MOS) 1901
Bath
Somersetshire VIEW
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2343 Folio:
51 Page:
26

Registration District:
Bath Sub District:
Walcot Enumeration District:
30 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Pauls

Civil Parish:
Bath Municipal Borough:
Address:
51, Avon Street, Bath County:
Somersetshire

Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)

EDMONDS Alice Maud Bath 5c 1156
O'Brien Patrick John Bath 5c 1156


Deaths Dec 1908 (>99%)
O'BRIEN Patrick John 33 Bath 5c 323

Hi Vicci
I dont belong to Ancestry co.uk. Is it possible for you to send me his service records ? Dont worry if you cant as you been very very helpful . As to Walter being in England in 1912 that is true otherwise no conception!!!.
But I wonder where he was in 1911 .
Angie

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=1219&path=W.We.Wes.63116

I don't know whether the 1911 census record is him, but it could be
if you look at his service record link above (if you subscribe to ancestry)

5.1.1910 transferred A' Res Sec? B
1.9.13 reengaged " "D"
6.1.14 transferred

Is your FinLaw was born may 1913 we can assume that Walter was in England sept/oct 1912

Vicci
If Walter was in the rifle brigade (the prince Consort) he must have been in england around 1911-12 because my fathetr i n law was born may 1913
so do you think that is why he was absent ?
Angie

Vicci
Oh dear Walter sounds a bit of a rebel perhaps he had Alice on his mind !!!

google search

2nd Battalion rifle brigade

1857 Indian Mutiny
1905 Chaubattia
1908 Calcutta
1911 Rawalpindi
1913 Kuldana

A thread from the 2nd Battalion 95th Rifles Forum[1] provides the following details

Dec 1911 2/RB stationed at Fort William, Calcutta.
Jan 1912 2/RB form guard of honour for King's departure from Calcutta.
Jan 1912, 2/RB trained to Pindi
Feb 1912 Brigade training and practice in hill Warfare in Baracao, "some 15 miles towards Murree".
Oct 1912 2/RB march to Rawal Pindi.

the ancestry website has the service records

the 1911 census for a "Weston" no first name given in India, the original census says "absent"

this could be him and looking at his military record it does not seem surprising that he was absent as he seems to have been AWOL or in detention several times.

Vicci
where do you get the information about collecting the medals what site is this on ?
Angie

Hi Vicci
I will tell you about my father in law he was Walter Weston Obrien. Now my father in law never knew his father and on his birth certificate it was father unknown .His mother was Alice Maude Obrien and she was a widow living in Great Corn Street Bath and next door was a Walter Weston who was was killed in 1914 . My father in law was born in 1913 and Alice collected Waltere Weston medals so therefore he had to be the father of Walter Weston Obrien my f.i.,law.. Thanks to all the help ive had from you guys now im just trying to find out about the Weston family ' Angie