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Thank you for looking, This family do not want to be found I think I;ll call it a day with them

Thank you for all your help

Ann

HI Sylann,

sorry I did look for Jean on the 1861 census, but guess what.... couldn't see her! I checked under Walker, Mcalpine, Munro and Maclean, still nothing.

Sorry to keep on but is their any chance of finding Jean in 61/71 clutching at strews here Just hoping that something might help

Thank you

Thank you
The plot thickens,
They marry in 1848 yet daughter Jean aged 8 is their daughter, I've been looking for a death for Elizabeth and thinking Jean was the daughter of Richard & Elizabeth but as yet I've not found a death or birth
It doesn't suprise me the McAlpines are good at dying and not letting people know about it!!!

Hi Sylann,

1851 Scotland Census
about Jean Walker Name: Jean Walker
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: Richard Walker
Mother's name: Joanna Walker
Gender: Female
Where born: Linlithgow, West Lothian
Parish Number: 668
Civil parish: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: Lion Well Wynd
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 89
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1851_174
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Walker 30
Joanna Walker 30 Born Leadhills, Ireland
Hector Munro 10 Born England....... stepson
Jean Walker 8
Agnes Walker 1
Mary Ann Sinclair 19


Think this is Joanna and Hector in 1841;

1841 Scotland Census
about Hector Munro Maclean Name: Hector Munro Maclean
Age: 7 MO
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: England

Civil parish: Dalkeith
County: Midlothian
Address: Wicket
Parish Number: 683
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Smith 60
Elisabeth Smith 50
Hector Manross 61
Margaret Kaid 10
Hector Munro Maclean 6
Hector Munro Maclean 7 MO
Johana Munro Maclean 26 >> Born Ireland

Could I have where Jane Walker aged 8 was born please in 1851 census

Oh I got mine off freecen and the name were right ??

Just had a quick look for deaths of Elizabeth their are 2 Elizabeth Mcalpines and 26 Elizabeth Walkers between 1843-48

looks like alot of credits

So here's Ancestry's 1841;

1841 Scotland Census
about Richard Marther Name: Richard Marther
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Gender: Male
Where born: West Lothian, Scotland

Civil parish: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: High Street
Occupation: Shoe M
Parish Number: 668
Household Members: Name Age
Archibald Smith 35
Marian Smith 35
Angus McLeod 30
Archibald McDonald 35
Thomas Mather 62 >> Born Scotland
Jean Mather 55 >. Born Scotland
Richard Marther 22
Thomas Malker Lunt 21 >> Born West Lothian, Scotland. Shoemaker

Just about to say that may be Jean was their daughter age fits in and her name would have been walker ??

Trouble is proving it early deaths don't give fathers name

Sylann,

You may have to but the marriage certificate to Johanna and see whether Richard states he is a Widower....... if he is then it's very likely to be the same chap that married Elizabeth.

Don't discount it as the wrong family......... from what you tell us you don't have much to go on or know much about Richard.

Maybe Elizabeth died?

So thats not the right family

I'm confused now 51 census

Shoemaker yes wife no??? and if it was the right Richard who married Elizabeth 1843 why Joanna??? he wouldn't have had time to marry them both

1861 Scotland Census
about Richard Walker Name: Richard Walker
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Johana Walker
Gender: Male
Where born: Thorn Hill, Lanark
Registration Number: 668/1
Registration district: Linlithgow
Civil parish: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: 173 High St
Occupation: Shoemaker Jo
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 100
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1861_120
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Walker 41
Johana Walker 45
Agnes Walker 12
Thomas Walker 6
Richard Walker 4
Margaret Walker 1 MO

Groom's Name: Richard Walker
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Joanna Gilbert Or Munro
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 10 Dec 1848
Marriage Place: Linlithgow,West Lothian,Scotland
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Walker
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: James Gilbert
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11994-3
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 1066635
Reference Number:

Yes Thats the marriage I'm going off

May be it's the wrong family in 41 but ages are always out in my family

Uuummm???

1851 Scotland Census
about Richard Walker Name: Richard Walker
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Joanna Walker
Gender: Male
Where born: Crawford Parish, Lanarksh
Parish Number: 668
Civil parish: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: Lion Well Wynd
Occupation: Journeyman Shoemaker
ED: 2
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 89
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1851_174
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Walker 30
Joanna Walker 30
Hector Munro 10
Jean Walker 8
Agnes Walker 1
Mary Ann Sinclair 19

Is this related??

Groom's Name: Richard Walker
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Elisabeth Mcalpine
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 04 Jun 1843
Marriage Place: Linlithgow,West Lothian,Scotland
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Walker
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: John Mcalpine
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11994-3
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 1066635
Reference Number:



Dee x

If Richard was 22 in 1841 he was born in 1819?
(But still cannot see him on ancestry)

Thomas Walker 62
Jean 55
Richard 22 Shoemaker West Lothian
Thomas 21 "" ""

Married 1843 to Elizabeth McAlpin The family I've been trying to track down but yet again after the 1840s they seem to vanish

but nothing after that