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Jennie Keen born 1901 in Theydon Bois, Essex

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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 7 Jul 2011 10:38

Just to say a big THANKYOU to Chris and Jax for all their help yesterday.

I shall continue to look for my grandma, Jessie Faulkner, every tiny step is a little step closer but with the help and expertise from you guys the job is just that little bit easier (and much more fun!!)

Thank you once again!!

Jenny :-D

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 18:33

thank you Jax :-D

jax

jax Report 6 Jul 2011 18:32

Ummmm

I will have another look later unless someone finds her in the meantime

jax

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 18:32

Yes, that's her!!

Barry

Barry Report 6 Jul 2011 18:31

Death record

Jessie Reed born 25 Dec 1903

Died Q4 1987 aged 83

reg district - Tower Hamlets ref 14 1053

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 18:17

I have her date of birth as 25 December 1903 but no proof as no birth cert.

Re: the Faulkner children. I have birth certs for:
Rachel
William
Florence &
Rosina

but cannot find birth certs for
Edward
Charles
Jessie &
John

I think the last three children are not natural children of William and Louisa Faulkner (nee Quaintrell). Indeed, John was born in 1909 and he is not on the 1911 census.

Jessie died around 1984 ish

I've been searching for her for about 2 years now and seem to go round in circles!!! :-(

jax

jax Report 6 Jul 2011 18:06

Do you have Jessie's date of birth having trouble finding any Faulkner childrens births

Did she die after 1969?

jax

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 17:57

blimey, Percy lived to a good age as did Jennie/Queenie (must be the Canadian air)!!

what a wonderful tool this message board is!!

Barry

Barry Report 6 Jul 2011 17:53

According to the G.R.Withrow family tree on Ancestry:-

Percy Keen born 7 Aug 1878 Theydon Bois was married to a Charlotte Louisa BLAKE born 24 Mar 1872 Bruce Ontario and died Calgary Alberta 1957
Percy died 10 Dec 1946 Calgary Alberta
Queenie/Jennie ,Kathleen Mary and Dorothy Dordeen are included in his tree
No spouse on record for Queenie/Jennie
Kathleen Mary died 21 Jan 1968 Pine City Pine Minnesota USA

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 17:42

and thank you too Chris - you clever person!! :-D

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 17:40

Thanks Jax, !!

ps - yes, Richard was indeed a brother!!

:-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Jul 2011 17:40

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Richard Keen
Name: Richard Keen
Gender: Male
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Date of Arrival: 25 Mar 1908
Vessel: Empress of Ireland
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Ireland' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick and Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-508

(yep, the arrival with Queenie and Kitty, Essex down for County in last Country)


1901 (William and Richard together, before Canada 1911 Census)

KEEN, Thomas Head Married M 46 1855 Builder
Stewkley
Buckinghamshire
KEEN, Eliza Wife Married F 47 1854
Stewkley
Buckinghamshire
KEEN, William Son Married M 30 1871 Bricklayer
Stewkley
Buckinghamshire
KEEN, Arthur Son Single M 18 1883 Carpenter
Theydon Bois
Essex
KEEN, Alfred Son Single M 14 1887 Bricklayers Lab
Theydon Bois
Essex
KEEN, Richard Son Single M 10 1891
Theydon Bois
Essex
KEEN, Frank Son Single M 5 1896
Theydon Bois
Essex
KEEN, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 12 1889
Theydon Bois
Essex
KEEN, Eva Daughter F 8 1893

FAULKNER, Walter Nephew Single M 18 1883 Bricklayers Lab
Stepney
London

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1638 Folio:
62 Page:
12

Registration District:
Epping Sub District:
Chigwell Enumeration District:
15 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary's

Civil Parish:
Theydon Bois Municipal Borough:
Address:
Coppice Row, Theydon Bois County:
Essex


1911 Census of Canada
about Percy Hean (Keen)
Name: Percy Hean
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 33
Birth Date: Aug 1877
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Charles Hean
Immigration Year: 1907
Tribal: English
Province: Alberta
District: Calgary
District Number: 1
Sub-District: Calgary
Sub-District Number: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Percy Hean 33
Charles Hean 40 (Charlotte)
Annie C Hean 10 (Queeenie E)
Ballard Hean 8 (Kathleen)
Dodeen Hean

(Household above them, brother William, wife Gertrude?. occupations for Percy and William, Plasterer)







jax

jax Report 6 Jul 2011 17:38

Will keep looking myself I'm sure she will turn up

jax

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 17:36

It's all very interesting stuff - not quite the outcome I had hoped for but without all your fantastic help I never would have been able to discount Jennie/Queenie so BIG THANKS to you all!

I will carry on with my search for Jessie - I'm sure I'll find that missing link of info (one day...............!!)

Thanks for all your help guys!! :-D

jax

jax Report 6 Jul 2011 17:32

I may not have been an option for percy to take the girls until he had a wife.

I believe it was frowned upon for men to bring up young girls alone.

Dont know who Richard was? could he be a younger brother?

jax

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 17:27

That sound very possible Chris - especially as Jennie/Queenie's biological mum was called Ethel!! I thought Jennie was an unusual name for 1901!

And I suppose it was entirely possible that poor Ethel had another child before she died (Kathleen Mary).

Oh well, that has dismissed my Jennie/Jessie theory but on the plus side at least Jennie/Queenie stayed with her father.

Sometimes the genes stuff can really take you on a wild goose chase and be very frustrating!!!!!

jax

jax Report 6 Jul 2011 17:24

Looks like the one chris well done

passenger transcript details
Name: Queenie KEEN
Date of departure: 20 March 1908
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Saint John NB, Canada
Passenger destination: Saint John NB, Canada

Date of Birth: 1902 (calculated from age)
Age: 6
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Child
Passenger recorded on: Page 19 of 36





--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Catherine KEEN Page 19 of 36 View transcript >>>>>>>>>age 4
Richd KEEN Page 19 of 36 View transcript >>>>>>>>17 Farmer



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
EMPRESS OF IRELAND
123972
J V Foster
Canadian Pacific
Saint John NB, Canada
24852
8028
1492



Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 6 Jul 2011 17:17

Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
Keen Queenie Ethel Epping 4a 526

(don't suppose the above was Jennie do you?)...


1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
about Percy Keen
Name: Percy Keen
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 38
Est. Birth Year: 1878
Birthplace: England
Year of immigration: 1907
Home in 1916: 01J, Calgary West, Alberta
Address: 2422 22nd Ave Sarcu Camp
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Self
Spouse's Name: Charlot Louisa Keen
Sub District Desc.: (A - M) inclusive, City of Calgary, such portion as is situated in this district according to the Representation Act, 1914
Household Members: Name Age
Percy Keen 38
Charlot Louisa Keen 44
Queenie Ethel Keen 15
Kathleen Mary Keen 13
Dorothy Dordeen Keen 6

Chris :)

(just nosin' on Canada!)

edits to say, image says 2 daughters born England, he arrived 1907, them 1908.




Births Sep 1902 (>99%)

Keen Kathleen Mary Epping 4a 531






Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Jul 2011 17:08

I've never heard of a home child - is that what they did with some orphans??!!
would she not have travelled with her father in that case??

jax

jax Report 6 Jul 2011 17:06

Could Jennie have gone to canada as a home child?? where they sent ophans

There are some with just initals which could be her

jax