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Oh, how nice for you!!! It was a pleasure helping you get on the right track!

Maureenxx

Can I just say ,Maureen thank you so much for the brilliant latest information. Thank you too to jax,choccy,Vera, Helen, Pam and jansmith, I am delighted to say that all your findings match up with my ancestors and in fact I have had contact with Vincent's family too having had the help from all of you kind people in this search with/for me.

I would just like to say a big thank you again for your time and patience when I was on the verge of giving up too. Not only has this opened up a new avenue, I am in touch with family members that I didn't know existed.

Cheers Everyone!
oldbean x

Just nudging in case you missed my post. Don't want you buying certs unless you really need them!

Maureen

Thank you Sue in Leeds-fantastic it is all coming together now. I shall send for the cert' just to be sure. Thanks again

This one?
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
BRETT Victor J Lewis Dartford 2a 1173

This sounds difficult,but just go slowly......
Go to:
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/

On the left hand side-click on Parish registers online.

Find:
Stone next Dartford, St. Mary the Virgin CMB 1718-1995 (P352) click here
And click there.

About half way down the page you'll see:
Result number 66 - Please quote Reference: P352_STONE_NEXT_DARTFORD_1718_1955/P352_01B_06 on request slip.
Path: Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/ P352_STONE_NEXT_DARTFORD_1718_1955/ P352_Additional_Stone_next_Dartford_parish_records_1856_to_1995/ 01B_Incumbent_registers_of_baptisms_1871_to_1995/ P352_01B_06.html


Stone-next-Dartford parish records
Registers of baptisms
Register of baptisms.
Date: 1912-1920
Quantity: 1 volume/100pp.

Click on view images.

From the list of jpgs that come up-pick 00000135.jpg
Victor's baptism is there-listing Arthur Henry and Emily as parents.

Good luck!

Maureen

Birth of Victor,,,

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
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BRETT Victor J Lewis Dartford 2a 1173

To make sure it is the same Victor you will need to send for the cert..

Father Brett----------- Mother Lewis

I am sorry to raise this again but I need to know if Arthur Henry Brett had a Son Victor year of birth 1914. I don't know how to find out this information otherwise I am afraid.

oldbean

Thanks so much Maureen, I felt it should be right but nerves got the better of me as I have been down that route before and spent a lot of time and effort on;y to find it was the wrong Arthur Henry Brett! I can be reassured with your help, although I very nearly threw the towel in!

I was dozing off having spent late nights trolling through census etc thats why I am late in replying, I thought, I will take a last look at messages before bed and there you were, a star in the making, thank you very much fot taking the time.

oldbean x

Well,it sure looks like the same person/people to me!!!

Just a mistake on Dad's name on the birth cert,I guess,but I wouldn't know where it originated.

I think you're safe.

Maureen
(Would have replied earlier but between GR and my own internet connection acting up I couldn't get anywhere!!)

Thanks so much Maureen, I was giving up hope of anyone reading the last post!
Birth cert-It does give good info'
Mothers name Bridget Brett formerly Foley living at Bridge Street Stowmarket.
Arthur's birth says 10th October 1882
Registered birth 13th November 1882 and in very small hardly legible born?comb 19 Bridge St? not sure if it does say that with myself and husband scrutinizing!
thanks
oldbean

Oh darn!

What does it give as address and mother's name?

Maureen

nudge-please help-see previous message

I am sorry everyone, I feel like giving up this line of ancestors!

I have sent off for Arthur Henry Brett birth certificate to confirm that his father is Frederick Richard Brett, I have just received the cert' to find that his father's name is Frederick William Brett!!! Quite a few other details add up ie working in a Gun Cotton Works as was discovered by several kind people helping me earlier on this thread. Could the GRO have sent me the wrong cert , have I made a big mistake-again by researching the wrong line but correct name-please can someone help before I go completely insane!!

Oh my godness Maureen, this does make some sense as the name Foley certainly figures in our family not sure where though and Dublin although I assumed that this was on the other side of the family that has Irish connections too. I am really excited at researching this further so thank you again for giving a helping hand.
To jansmith and others that have put meat on the bones!

Re: Fred's wife. Yes,it means she was born in Ireland (as it shows on all the other census) but is a resident of Britain.

I'm really not good on Ireland,but if Bridget's maiden name turns out to be Foley on Arthur's birth cert,you might want to have a look at:
From Family Search:
name: Brett
gender: Female (Thinking this might be sister Alice)
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 31 Dec 1878
birthplace: Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
father's name: Frederick Brett
mother's name: Bridget Brett Foley
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00585-7
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 256022
reference number: v 2-2 p 700


name: Frederick Brett
registration district: Longford
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Jan - Mar 1878
film number: 101253
volume number: 3
page number: 249
digital folder number: 4179386
image number: 00164

name: Bridget Foley
registration district: Longford
event type: MARRIAGES
registration quarter and year: Jan - Mar 1878

film number: 101253
volume number: 3
page number: 249
digital folder number: 4179386
image number: 00179

Just guessing on the above-not even sure if they match up!!!

Maureen

1911 census with 1st wife?
Parish: Stone Near Dartford Enum. District: 18
Address: 3 Archers Cottages Bean Dartford
County: Kent

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
BRETT, Arthur Henry Head Married M 28 1883 Labourer Sporting Powder Stowmarket Suffolk
BRETT, Emily Wife Married F 25 1886 Maidstone Kent
BRETT, William Henry Son M 2 1909 Stone Kent
BRETT, Arthur Fredirid Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Stone Kent


this marriage??
Arthur Henry Brett Jan-Feb-Mar 1908 Dartford Kent

Emily Lewis Jan-Feb-Mar 1908 Dartford Kent

It really is amazing that more information than I could have dreamed of has been found so thank you again, one thing though, I see that Fredericks's wife, on the 1911 census reports that she is an 'Ireland Limerick resident 'can anyone enlighten me as to what that means, I assumed born there but it says differently on other census.

1841 England Census about Keturah Palmer
Name: Keturah Palmer
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Combs
Hundred: Stow
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Stow
Sub-registration district: Stowmarket
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1035
Book: 2
Folio: 10
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizth Palmer 50
Elizth Palmer 20
Fredk Palmer 17
Keturah Palmer 12

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Keturah Palmer
Name: Keturah Palmer
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1848
Registration district: Stow
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume Number: 12
Page Number: 4&f5=12">613 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Frederick Richard Brett
Name: Frederick Richard Brett
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1852
Christening Date: 10 Jan 1852
Christening Place: Combs, Suffolk, England
Father's name: David Brett
Mother's name: Keturah