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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:22 |
well I've just been through a shedload of births in Staffs for twenty years after the marriage date and can find no children for Benjamin
interestingly, referring to the name "Bagger", interspersed with Pagetts were Baggots and Piggots!!!
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 22:27 |
Thanks Ozi, not come accross this link yet, after the birth of Benjamin, the Pagets seem to have had a mass exodus from the lichfield area and my line seemed to head for the Telford area, could be needing the additions when I hit my next generation back. Cheers Gav
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Ozibird
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28 Jun 2011 22:29 |
In that case the Benjamin found in the censuses may be a more distant relative.
Ozi
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Andrew
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28 Jun 2011 22:30 |
Hi Ann
The childrens birts are in Shropshire
Results for: Pagett, British Isles Father: Benjamin Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C064901 [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 5 Find more British records by searching on the updated FamilySearch site. Click here... Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. SARAH PAGGETT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Wombridge, Shropshire, England 2. ANN PAGGETT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 28 APR 1811 Wombridge, Shropshire, England 3. RICHARD BAGGER PAGGETT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 18 JAN 1807 Wombridge, Shropshire, England 4. WILLIAM HENRY PAGGETT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 29 JUN 1800 Wombridge, Shropshire, England 5. BENJAMIN PAGGET - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 23 JAN 1803 Wombridge, Shropshire, England
This area is much closer to the Enville/Kinver births that you have found and was the centre industrial revolution at the time.
Andy
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 22:39 |
Ann, Ozi and Andy, Thanks for all your help, my Benjamin was Richard Bagger Pagetts father, I also lucked upon a William and a Benjamin born in 1800 and 1803 respectiveley which I think are of the same parents, should have known that this Benjamin would be an issue, My own Benjamin who is 5 seems to be following on from his namesake.
Cheers
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:57 |
William Pagett England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: 1801 —Wombridge, Shropshire residence: 1861 —Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England census: 1861 —Wrockwardine Wood, Shropshire, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1861 name: William Pagett event: Census event date: 1861 gender: Male age: 60 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Wombridge, Shropshire record type: Household registration district: Wellington sub-district: 3 Wombridge ecclesiastical parish: Wrockwardine Wood civil parish: Wrockwardine Wood county: Shropshire
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:58 |
so now I'm finding them!!! duh!!!!
Ann Paggett England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Shropshire, England parents: Benjmin Paggett, Sarah record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Ann Paggett gender: Female baptism/christening date: 28 Apr 1811 baptism/christening place: WOMBRIDGE,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND father's name: Benjmin Paggett mother's name: Sarah indexing project (batch) number: C06490-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 510685
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 22:59 |
should have paid more attention in geography class obviously!!!!
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 23:00 |
Richard Bagger Paggett England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Wombridge, Shropshire, England parents: Benjmin Paggett, Sarah record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Richard Bagger Paggett gender: Male baptism/christening date: 18 Jan 1807 baptism/christening place: , WOMBRIDGE, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND father's name: Benjmin Paggett mother's name: Sarah indexing project (batch) number: C06490-1 system origin: England-VR source film number: 510685
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 23:01 |
Sarah Paggett England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Shropshire, England parents: Benjmen Paggett, Sarah record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Sarah Paggett gender: Female baptism/christening date: 06 May 1804 baptism/christening place: WOMBRIDGE,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND father's name: Benjmen Paggett mother's name: Sarah indexing project (batch) number: C06490-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 510685
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 23:01 |
Benjamin Pagget England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Wombridge, Shropshire, England parents: Benjamin Pagget, Sarah record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Benjamin Pagget gender: Male baptism/christening date: 23 Jan 1803 baptism/christening place: , WOMBRIDGE, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND father's name: Benjamin Pagget mother's name: Sarah indexing project (batch) number: C06490-1 system origin: England-VR source film number: 510685
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 23:04 |
seems they were all miners in the iron works
1881
Richard PAGET Head M Male 51 Wombridge, Shropshire, England Ironstone Miner Sarah PAGET Wife M Female 53 Lilleshall, Shropshire, England Ann PAGET Daur Female 15 Lilleshall, Shropshire, England Loads Ironstone Into Carriages
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Forge Row Census Place Lilleshall, Shropshire, England Family History Library Film 1341643 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2684 / 96 Page Number 28
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AnnCardiff
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28 Jun 2011 23:05 |
1881 - possible connections
Richard PAGETT Head M Male 68 Trench, Shropshire, England Iron Chequer In Ironworks Elizabeth PAGETT Wife M Female 67 Trench, Shropshire, England Richard PAGETT Son U Male 27 Trench, Shropshire, England Iron Worker John PAGETT Grandson U Male 14 Hadley, Shropshire, England Cabinet Makers Apprentice
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Hadley Census Place Wellington, Shropshire, England Family History Library Film 1341642 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2680 / 69 Page Number 16
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Gavin
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28 Jun 2011 23:14 |
Thanks again Ann, everyone bang on the money, the last two posts are really close, if I Can make the connection from Benjamin Marrying in 1801, to the Benjamin Born in 1776, then they all descend ferom the same Benjamin of 1740 Bridgnorth, these are from that line but my uncertainty over the link is possibly making me a little hesitant to expand my tree. Cheers again, I really do appraciate all the help I am receiving.
Gavin
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Ozibird
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29 Jun 2011 08:42 |
???? 1851 England Census Name: Benjamin Padgett Age: 80 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771 Relation: Head Gender: M (Male) Where born: Amblecote, Staffordshire, England [Amblecote is in Oldswinford parish] Civil parish: Wombridge County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Formerley Glass blower
Condition as to marriage: Wid.
Registration district: Wellington Sub-registration district: Ercall Magna Piece: 1997 Folio: 622 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Padgett 80 Sarah Padgett 27 - Grand daughter; Coal Picker; born Eyton Shropshire Samuel Padgett 4 - illegitimate great-grandson; Wombridge Enoch Moses Padgett 2 - illegitimate great-grandson; Wombridge Harriet Padgett 24 - grand daughter; Iron-stone picker James Padgett 2 - illegitimate great-grandson; Wombridge
All others born Wombridge.
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Ozibird
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29 Jun 2011 08:53 |
If so, then ......
1841 England Census Name: Benjamin Pagett Age: 71 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1770 Gender: Male Civil parish: Wombridge Hundred: South Bradford (Wellington Division) County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street Address: Newfield [I think]
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Wellington Sub-registration district: Wombridge Piece: 907 Book: 10 Folio: 6 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Pagett 71 - not born in county Sarah Pagett 69 - not born in county Sarah Pagett 18 Harriott Pagett 13
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Gavin
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29 Jun 2011 18:36 |
just picked up on the recent posts while checking in on my mobile, I will have to have a proper look when I get in but there are definite possibilities there, The EnoCH Paget link sounds very familiar. will look back in later after I have had a chance to scan through my paperwork. Thanks again Gavin
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Gavin
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6 Jul 2011 18:47 |
good evening all, I have had another trawl through my paperwork and igi and been through the help that you have all provided, and seem to be shying away from the noted Benjamin, born 1771 in amblecote, at the turn of the century, he was glass blowing in Broseley, married to Rebecca which doesn't tie in with my Sarah link. My gut instinct is that he is the son of Benjamin born in lichfield ( where Ben and Sarah married ) in 1801, is there anyone there who could qualify this link for me with the special ways you genealogy gurus have ???thanks in advance, Gavin
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Gavin
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6 Jul 2011 18:48 |
good evening all, I have had another trawl through my paperwork and igi and been through the help that you have all provided, and seem to be shying away from the noted Benjamin, born 1771 in amblecote, at the turn of the century, he was glass blowing in Broseley, married to Rebecca which doesn't tie in with my Sarah link. My gut instinct is that he is the son of Benjamin born in lichfield ( where Ben and Sarah married ) in 1801, is there anyone there who could qualify this link for me with the special ways you genealogy gurus have ???thanks in advance, Gavin
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Gavin
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6 Jul 2011 18:53 |
good evening all, I have had another trawl through my paperwork and igi and been through the help that you have all provided, and seem to be shying away from the noted Benjamin, born 1771 in amblecote, at the turn of the century, he was glass blowing in Broseley, married to Rebecca which doesn't tie in with my Sarah link. My gut instinct is that he is the son of Benjamin born in lichfield ( where Ben and Sarah married ) in 1801, is there anyone there who could qualify this link for me with the special ways you genealogy gurus have ???thanks in advance, Gavin
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