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1911 census - household transcription
Person: GRAVES, William Baguley
Address: Redgate Palace West Field Lane Mansfield
GRAVES, William Baguley Head Married M 51 1860 Head Teacher Disablement Allowance Nottingham Skegby
GRAVES, Elizabeth Martha Wife Married
23 years F 63 1848 Guernsey St Peter Resident
GRAVES, Linsan Alfred William Son Single M 19 1892 Student Stafford Pattingham


Same address.

I have been looking through the electoral registers for Mansfield. So far I have just found Ella on her own - no sign of Arthur.

In 1930/31 she appears living in the same household as a William Baguley GRAVES until 1936. The address is Redgate Place, Westfield Lane, Mansfield. She records herself as Ella and Helene Grace WOOD up until 1935/36 when she changes her name to Ella Grace Trautman WOOD [the clue I was looking for to know it was her!]

I will look again at the deaths for Arthur Wood to see if these dates point to a particular death in the registers. We know Arthur had died by 1938 because of the marriage record of Doreen.

I looked to see if they were living with his mother in West Bridgford in 1912+1913 [when the first children were born] but can see nothing.

Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%)
Birch Harold Loughbro' 7a 266
TRAUTMANN Edith Dorothea Loughbro' 7a 266


1911 census - household transcription
Person: BIRCH, Edith Dorothea
Address: 22 Chaucer St Leicester
BIRCH, Harold Head Married M 58 1853 Bank Clerk Lancashire Southport
BIRCH, Edith Dorothea Wife Married F 24 1887 Leicestershire Loughborough

This would be the one that died


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Paul Robert Trautmann

Name:Paul Robert Trautmann
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1889
Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1890
Age at Death:1
Registration district:Loughborough
Inferred County:eicestershire
Volume:7a

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Octavia Flora Trautmann







Name:

Octavia Flora Trautmann
Birth Date:20 Aug 1890
Date of Registration:ul 1984
Age at Death:93
Registration district:Loughborough
Inferred County:Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume:6
Page:1812

1911 census - household transcription
Person: TRAUTMANN, Thyrza
Address: 56 Highbury Avenue Bulwell
TRAUTMANN, Frederick Otto Head Married M 28 1883 Representative Of Correspondent School Ratcliffe Leicestershire
TRAUTMANN, Thyrza Wife Married
1 years F 27 1884 Leicester
TRAUTMANN, Thyrza Zelie Daughter F 0 (5 MONTH) 1911 Nottingham

Marriages Dec 1909 (>99%)
BARRS Thyrza Leicester 7a 554
TRAUTMANN Frederick Otto Leicester 7a 554

1911 census - household transcription
Person: TRAUTMANN, Anna
Address: 37 Park Road Loughborough

TRAUTMANN, Otto Head Married M 57 1854 Professor Of Music Germany Resident VIEW
TRAUTMANN, Anna Wife Married
32 years F 55 1856 Germany Resident
TRAUTMANN, Margaret Daughter Single F 30 1881 Art Student Ratcliffe on Wreake Leicestershire
TRAUTMANN, Ella Daughter Single F 27 1884 Loughborough Leics
TRAUTMANN, Octavia Daughter Single F 20 1891 Student-Teacher Loughborough Leics
TRAUTMANN, Oscar Son Single M 18 1893 Advertising Clerk Loughborough Leics


Anna bore 9 childre one diedd and 8 were still living


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
about Anna Longina Trautmann
Name:Anna Longina Trautmann
Probate Date:18 Apr 1935
Death Date:5 Jan 1935
Death Place:Leicestershire, England
Registry:Leicester

Cynthia,

I have received a reply from Genes [below] - I said I would update you!


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I have asked them to look at this thread so they can see that it is not just me that is not receiving updates - and that I do understand [even though I am not an IT expert] that I will not receive an email notifying me of an update, if there hasnt been one!!!

Hi LK,

Are these also in Leicester? Would you be able to post them on here? [I think I shall have to visit Leicester after all]

I wonder if there was there something 'telling' in her father's will?

I found probate for several of Ella's siblings too.

Hi LK,

Yes, you did indeed. Thank you.

Elaine

I think I sent you the image Elaine



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
about Otto Frederick Trautmann
Name:Otto Frederick Trautmann
Probate Date:10 Mar 1931
Death Date:23 Nov 1930
Death Place:Leicestershire, England
Registry:Leicester

Sorry - no he has got a son called Otto born in 1883 - he appears in the 1891 census - phew - thought I was going mad there for a minute! lol

Hi,

I have found the record of a marriage of Frederick Otto Trautmann in 1909 - in Leicester. I cannot find another person of the same name on the census' and his son was called Oscar.

His wife didnt die until 1927!!! She is recorded as living in the same house as him in the 1911 census???

Nice to see you back Rhoda. ;-) ;-) ;-)
I have spent a long time looking for answers for you and Elaine.

Please add any facts as you find them. It will all help. Please remember family stories may or may not have a factual base. People's memories get muddled. ;-)
Did you read Otto's probate record?
It is little things that add to the story piece at a time. And that may help to jog somebody's memory.

Ladies hello...
The problems you have been experiencing - the hot matches and board thread prompts are related to a problem we have been having with the site over the last couple of weeks, that has affected a number of members. We have been trying to keep everyone up to date on the progress we have been making, but unfortunately some site problems have been harder to fix than others. We are making great progress though and Phil's blog has tried to explain what has been happening on a regular basis.

Elaine - emails from members are picked up and responded too within 24 hours of opening Monday to Friday. If you have sent an email outside of office hours it will be picked up the following day, or in the case of a Friday night on Monday morning. The team do respond to all emails sent in, and Cynthia recommended you email via the site. Let me know if you don't receive a response on Monday.

As you can imagine I have had a very busy time over the last few weeks and, out of work has been pretty full on too. I haven't made a great deal of progress, and as far as I know Dad hasn't heard anything back yet either. I'll be offline over the next week, but will endeavour to give a progress report when I'm back online.

Thanks very much for your patience on the site issues and my personal tree growth.

Rhoda

nudgin this for Rhoda [as we are not receiving updates!]

Hi Rhoda,

Any news yet regarding the certificates you were sending for on 6th/14th?

Did your dad receive the service records for Arthur Chester Wood that he was sending for ?

I would appreciate an update from you either on this post or via email - as the information you may have from the items above could help me and the extremely helpful and willing members of this site solve the puzzle.

I havent heard anything from you properly since the 11th June.

Elaine

Will do Cynthia!!

Elaine x

Keep us posted ;-)

Cx