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6 Jun 2011 15:01 |
Thank you every one and you are all stars I can now know who I am, as a child and adult I never really knew.
THANK YOU EVERY ONE <3 :-)
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Kucinta
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5 Jun 2011 15:18 |
George Emmett/Emmitt was a fishmonger in 1871 and also on the baptism of daughter Sarah Caroline.
Marriage of George and Ellen?
Name: George Emmitt - occ Fishmonger Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Ellen Cole Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1862 Parish: St Thomas, Lambeth County: Surrey Borough: Lambeth Father Name: Thomas Emmitt - occ illegible Spouse Father Name: Thomas Cole - occ coal miner
Edit: On free BMD Ellen Cole is missing from that qtr. The only Ellen mentioned is Ellen Kendrick, but she is the marriage entry above George and Ellen in the church register, and she married Edward William Henry Webb on July 26th 1862.
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5 Jun 2011 14:02 |
Possible marriage for Thomas Emmett and Caroline?
Name: Thomas Emmett - occ leather dresser Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Spouse Name: Caroline Warner Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 22 Feb 1841 Parish: St Giles, Camberwell County: Surrey Borough: Southwark Father Name: Francis Emmett - 0cc Excavator Spouse Father Name: George Warner- occ Gardener
Bride & groom of Page Walk Peckham
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5 Jun 2011 13:54 |
Looks like George was a naughty boy....
Census 1861
Name: George Emmett Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 >>>>>Relation: Prisoner Gender: Male Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalen County/Island: Surrey Country: England
He was a prisoner in Bermondsey Police Station, so maybe not that bad!
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5 Jun 2011 13:45 |
1891 Census says George was born c1843 Bermondsey.
At the risk of adding more confusion, could this be his baptism, and also where the 'Thomas' came from? (Lord knows why he's 'John' in 1881!)
Name: George Thomas Emmett Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1845 Baptism Date: 12 Jan 1845 Father's name: Thomas Emmett Mother's name: Caroline Emmett Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Borough: Southwark Father Thomas a shoemaker EDIT - looks Like I was still typing as Christina was posting. Baptism also explains where the 'Caroline' in George's daughter Sarah Caroline as mentioned by Christina, comes from.
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5 Jun 2011 13:42 |
Susan,
In March 1863 when George and Ellen baptised their daughter, Sarah Caroline, in Lambeth (referred to as Caroline on the 1871 census) father is down as George Thomas Emmitt. It looks as though that was his middle name, although it's the only instance I can find of him using it.
Baptism is on London Baptisms, Ancestry.
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5 Jun 2011 13:11 |
Jessie Hood died in 1893 as posted in a previous entry, so she wouldn't be around in census 1901.
Death: Hood Jessie 39 Bethnal G. 1c 208a Dec 1893.
The Hoods from Bethnal Green seem to be the correct family as you say, and it would explain why Edward and Jane name their first born Jessie.
Name: Jessie Emmett Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Edward Emmett Mother's name: Jane Emmett Gender: Female Where born: Peckham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: London Country: England
Living in camberwell.
Given what Shirley has found to tie Jane to Ellen's address, it would seem that Edward's father is George Emmett (or John Emmett as he is named in the 1881 census)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Jun 2011 12:12 |
I am strongly suspecting that Jane was estranged from her family ,and the Hood family from Bethnal Green are her family.
Seems she gave Edwards mums address as where she lived when they married .
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Jun 2011 12:08 |
AHH its Edwards address in 1891 so Ellen was his mum!! 375 EMMETT, George Head Married M 48 1843 General Labourer Bermondsey London VIEW 375 EMMETT, Ellen Wife Married F 54 1837 Cheltenham VIEW 375 EMMETT, Edward Son Single M 14 1877 Railway Number Taker Peckham London VIEW 375 ROWING, Daniel Boarder Single M 22 1869 Carman Peckham London VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 468 Folio: 62 Page: 55 Registration District: Camberwell Sub District: Camberwell Enumeration District: 24 Ecclesiastical Parish: St John Civil Parish: Camberwell Municipal Borough: Address: 18, Sternhall Lane, Camberwell County: London
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Jun 2011 12:06 |
Interesting look who is living at 18 Sternhall Lane in 1901!!! 414 EMMETT, Ellen Head Married F 62 1839 Cheltenham Gloucestershire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 414 JACKSON, William Boarder Single M 32 1869 Bricklayers Labourer Brighton Sussex VIEW 414 JOHNSON, Jesse Boarder Single M 30 1871 Carpenter Northampton Northamptonshire VIEW 414 BLACK, William Boarder Single M 34 1867 Insurance Agent Scotland VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG13 Piece: 500 Folio: 76 Page: 53 Registration District: Camberwell Sub District: Camberwell Enumeration District: 39 Ecclesiastical Parish: St John the Evangelist Civil Parish: Camberwell Municipal Borough: Address: 18, Sternhall Lane, Camberwell County: London So maybe Jane was working for her and thats how she met Edward ?? ;-)
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Jun 2011 11:39 |
Cant find Henry and Jessie on the 1901 census . Bethnal Green is north of the River Thames and Camberwell is SE London. Maybe Jane was in domestic service when she met Edward. Funny though not to marry in her home church but then there doesnt appear to be family members witnesses on the marriage cert so maybe she was estranged from her family or wasnt quite 21 when she married so didnt have parental consent.
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Janice
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5 Jun 2011 09:29 |
Do you have your grandfather's birth certificate? If not, then that would seem the most important one to buy.
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5 Jun 2011 00:23 |
William Knight and parents in 1851:
Name: William Knight Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Son Father's name: William Knight Mother's name: Mary Knight Gender: M (Male) Where born: Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Green ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 31 Piece: 1540 Folio: 370 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age William Knight 44 c1807 Godalming, Surrey, England. men's shoe maker Mary Knight 53 c1798 Mooreserram, Gloucestershire, England William Knight 19 c1832 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England. Gas Lighter. William Clark 16
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5 Jun 2011 00:16 |
Marriage for William and Sarah Knight?
Name: William Knight 0cc Gas Lighter Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Sarah Pattison Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 20 Jun 1853 Parish: St John, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Knight Occ Shoe maker Spouse Father Name: Charles Pattison Occ Shoe maker
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5 Jun 2011 00:11 |
Jessie Knight in census 1861:
Name: Jessie Knight Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Knight Mother's name: Sarah Knight Gender: Female Where born: Beth Green, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Green ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 244 Piece: 256 Folio: 17 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age William Knight 29 c1832 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England GAS LIGHTER Sarah Knight 30 c1831 Beth Green, Middlesex, England.c1854 Beth Green, Middlesex, England. Jessie Knight 7 Walter Knight 5 William Knight 3 Mary Knight 6 MO
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5 Jun 2011 00:03 |
Death: Hood Jessie 39 Bethnal G. 1c 208a Dec 1893.
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4 Jun 2011 23:37 |
Census 1881 says Henry Hood was a tinplate worker born c1847 Bethnal Green (1891 Tin Case maker), and wife Jessie was born Bethnal Green c1853.
marriage?
Name: Henry Hood - occ packing case maker Age: Full Age Spouse Name: Jessie Knight Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1873 Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: Henry Hood occ carpenter.
Jessie's father is given as William Knight gaslighter.
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4 Jun 2011 23:22 |
Father George Emmett is named John in 1881:
Name: Edward Emmett Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Son Father's name: John Emmett Mother's name: Ellen Emmett Gender: Male Where born: Peckham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 15 Bellgarden Rd Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Peckham ED, institution, or vessel: 31a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 688 Folio: 26 Page Number: 46 Household Members: Name Age John Emmett 34 c1847 Peckham general labourer Ellen Emmett 35 c1846 Peckham Surrey Ada Emmett 12 Edward Emmett 4
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susan
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4 Jun 2011 23:13 |
I have looked at my fathers birth cert and the address for Jane is the same as on the Marriage cert, 18 sternhall lane, camberwell my father was born 5 Brunswick Square camberwell (now brunswick park) any ideas anyone. :-D
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susan
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4 Jun 2011 22:59 |
The Jane Hood seems right as the correct father Henry. Thank you so much you are stars, love you all. <3
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