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Looking for siblings of John Brown b 1904 London.

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Carogoo

Carogoo Report 31 May 2011 18:10

I am the daughter of John (17.11.04) better known as Jack,
I have never known any of his brothers or sisters.
I draw a blank on his side of the family, Can anyone help?

Flick

Flick Report 31 May 2011 18:17

With such a common name, you will have to provide more info

London..........far too vague. Please say which district

Who was his father? He will be named on John's marriage cert...........

Do you know the name of your grandmother?

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 May 2011 18:19

eg
these come up in 1911 for london
ousehold BROWN, John 1904 7 M Fulham London VIEW VIEW
Household BROWN, John 1904 7 M Chelsea London VIEW VIEW
Household BROWN, John 1904 7 M Islington London VIEW VIEW
Household BROWN, John 1904 7 M Islington London VIEW VIEW
Household BROWN, John 1904 7 M Hackney London VIEW VIEW
Household BROWN, John 1904 7 M Poplar London VIEW

and there are others who have a middle name

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2011 18:20

Which one?
Births Dec 1904
BROWN John Lambeth 1d 485
BROWN John Lewisham 1d 1178
BROWN John Albert Southwark 1d 106
BROWN John Augustus Shoreditch 1c 51
BROWN John Edward Wandsworth 1d 693
Brown John Hector Wandsworth 1d 696

Flick

Flick Report 31 May 2011 18:31

he's this one....LOL!

Marriages Mar 1923 (>99%)
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Brown John W Walkey Camberwell 1d 1023
Walkey Maud B Brown Camberwell 1d 1023

Carogoo

Carogoo Report 31 May 2011 18:37

Sorry only a beginner!
John's fathers name was George Alfred Brown, this is from his marriage cert.

tempest

tempest Report 31 May 2011 18:44

what addresses and occupations are on the marriage cert please

Carogoo

Carogoo Report 31 May 2011 18:47

john walter brown - shop porter - 36 sumner road.
Father -george alfred brown - horsekeeper

tempest

tempest Report 31 May 2011 18:50

maybe

1911 census Address: 4 Derwent Buildings Peckham S E

Registration District: Camberwell

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

BROWN, George Head Married M 47 1864 Horse Keeper Edinburgh Scotland
BROWN, Estilla Wife Married 18 years F 40 1871 West Indies
BROWN, Thomas Son M 16 1895 Perambulator Painter Edinburgh Scotland
BROWN, Alfred Son M 13 1898 School And Inspector Boy London Peckham
BROWN, Robert Son M 11 1900 School London Peckham
BROWN, John Son M 8 1903 School London Peckham
BROWN, William Son M 5 1906 School London Peckham
BROWN, Grace Daughter F 2 1909 London Peckham

8 children born to marriage by 1911, 1 of whom had died, 7 were still alive

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2011 18:54

Is John Walter's birthday definitely 17.11.1904?
Thanks

tempest

tempest Report 31 May 2011 18:59

1901 census

Address: 4, Deruent Building, Camberwell

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

BROWN, George A Head Married M 42 1859 Ostlers Labourer Scotland
BROWN, Esttella Wife Married F 27 1874 Swindon Wiltshire
BROWN, Georgina Daughter Single F 8 1893 Scotland
BROWN, Thomas Son Single M 6 1895 Scotland
BROWN, Alfred Son M 3 1898 Peckham London
BROWN, Robert Son M 0 (10 MOS) 1901 Peckham London

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2011 19:01

1901 England Census
George A Brown
Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Esttella Brown
Gender: Male Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London Country: England
Street Address: 4 Derwent Buildings
Occupation: ostler's labourer
Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Household schedule number: 109 Piece: 509 Folio: 177 Page Number: 19

George A Brown 42
Esttella Brown 27 Swindon Wilts
Georgina Brown 8 Scotland
Thomas Brown 6 Scotland
Alfred Brown 3
Robert Brown 10 Months

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 509; Folio: 177; Page: 19.

Carogoo

Carogoo Report 31 May 2011 19:09

On John Walter Brown's death cert. it said died age 38 on 30th march 1942
in Poole Dorset.

tempest

tempest Report 31 May 2011 19:15

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Alfred Samuel Brown
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 6 April1898
Baptism Date: 20 Apr 1898
Father's name: George Alfred Brown
Mother's name: Estella Matilda Brown
Parish or Poor Law Union: Peckham St Andrew
Borough: Southwark

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Robert Hector Brown
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 23 May 1900
Baptism Date: 6 Jul 1900
Father's name: George Alfred Brown
Mother's name: Estella Matilda Brown
Parish or Poor Law Union: Peckham St Andrew
Borough: Southwark

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Georgina Estelle Brown
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 27 July 1893
Baptism Date: 2 Oct 1896
Father's name: George Alfred Brown
Mother's name: Estelle Matilda Brown
Parish or Poor Law Union: Peckham St Andrew
Borough: Southwark

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Thomas William Brown
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 28 August 1895
Baptism Date: 2 Oct 1896
Father's name: George Alfred Brown
Mother's name: Estelle Matilda Brown
Parish or Poor Law Union: Peckham St Andrew
Borough: Southwark

all have home address of 4 Derwent buildings and Horse Keeper as father's occupation

Carogoo

Carogoo Report 31 May 2011 19:26

I don't think there is a connection with these because of the dates.

tempest

tempest Report 31 May 2011 20:08

sorry couldn't resist

I looked up Thomas William Brown's birth in Edinburgh

parents were George Brown (stableman) and Estilla Matilda Brown nee Emery, they married 27 November 1887 in Swindon

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2011 20:13

If he was 38 in March 1942 when he died, and his birthday is November, he would have been 39 in November 1942, and so born in 1903.
So, was he born in 1903 or 1904?

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 31 May 2011 20:38

The 1911 census states that Estelle was born in the West Indies.
In 1881 Estelle Emery is with her parents and siblings, most of them were born in Barbados

Carogoo

Carogoo Report 31 May 2011 20:41

On John Browns marriage cert it has his age as 19 on 18th march 1923.
????

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2011 20:52

If he was 19 in March 1923, he would be 20 on his birthday in November, 1923, and so born in 1903.