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Hi All
William Pickersgill was my GGGrandfather, his daughter Maryann my GGrandmother. She was married to William Jackson,i have their marriage cert 1872 Liverpool. William was the son of Isaac Jackson.
In the 1881 Census Maryann & William, have Thomas& Hugh Pickersgill staying with them.
Im a bit puzzled with William Pickersgills 1881 Census, Louisa must be Sarah's Mother but William is said to be her Father. Maybe Louisa wasnt married??? Such alot of info fantastic!
Thanks for all your help everyone! :D :D :D

I wonder?????


could this possibly be William in 1841 ......... but with the wrong birthplace???



1841 Census


1841 England Census

Name: Wm Pickersgill
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin

Thos Pickersgill 40 b.ca 1801, Lancashire, Mariner
Ann Pickersgill 35 b.ca 1806, Lancashire
Samuel Pickersgill 17 b.ca 1824, Lancashire, mariner
Wm Pickersgill 12
Ann Pickersgill 3 b.ca 1838, Lancashire

Address:- Burlington Street, Parish of St Martin




sylvia

other children for William and Eliza???


from ancestry


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Luay Pickersgill <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Lucy on the image
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1858
Baptism Date: 24 Oct 1858
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's name: William Pickersgill
Mother's name: Eliza Pickersgill

Address:- Burlington Street
Father occupation:- Painter



Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Ann Janet Pickersgill
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1874
Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1874
Parish: Liverpool All Saints
Father's name: William Pickersgill
Mother's name: Eliza Pickersgill

Address:- 7 Court, Virgil Street
Father occupation:- Painter



Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Burials, 1813-1974

Name: Ann Jane Pickersgill
Birth Year: abt 1874
Age: 4/12
Burial Date: 19 Aug 1874
Parish: Walton Park Parochial Cemetery

Address:- 41 Arkwright St


Maybe NOT this one, occupation is wrong

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: James Pickersgill
Birth Date: 25 Nov 1876
Baptism Date: 2 Jan 1877
Parish: Everton Christ Church
Father's name: William Pickersgill
Mother's name: Eliza Pickersgill

Addess:- 90 Beatrice St
Father occupation:- Labourer



sylvia

from the new beta.familysearch site


www.familysearch.org./

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: William Tonge Pickersgill
bride's name: Eliza Jones
marriage date: 25 Aug 1851
marriage place: St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: Thomas Pickersgill
bride's father's name: William Jones
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M00725-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656510




sylvia

I wonder if by any chance this is William's burial????



Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Burials, 1813-1974

Name: William Pickersgill
Birth Year: abt 1828
Age: 69
Burial Date: 14 Dec 1897
Parish: Walton Park Parochial Cemetery

from image:-

Address:- 54 Penrhyne (???) St, St Martins



sylvia

from ancestry


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Louisa Pickersgill
Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 30
Marriage Date: 15 Nov 1892
Parish: Everton St Ambrose
Spouse's Name: John Smith
Father's name: William Pickersgill
Spouse Father's Name: Thomas Smith


From image:-

John Smith
Age 48
Widower
Occupation:- Pavior (???spelling)
Address:- 13 But (or Bate) St
Father occupation:- Blacksmith

Lousia
Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- 13 Bute (or Bate) St
Father occupation:- Painter

Witnesses:- John Linsley (his mark) and Elizabeth Wilson


Interestingly, neither John Smith nor Louisa could sign their names ... I thought most people could at least do that by 1892?





sylvia

jax


the ancestry tree had William ..... and then she had his address in 1861, with the link to the 1861 Census


I was still working on William / Will* / Wm, etc, hadn't yet started on Pick /Peck etc etc!



sylvia

Joan


Janey has been fulminating about those ever since the changes.



it's because there are colons with no space after them before going to the next line ..... that's the "signal" for the emoticon to appear.


but it plays havoc with c&p'ing census records!



sylvia

Good one Sylvia.

FMP has siezed up on me to find 1871.

Different on FMP

1861 census - household transcription
Person: PICKERIS, Wm
Address: 23, Lawrence Street, Liverpool


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PICKERIS, Wm Head Married M 32 1829 Painter Plumber
Liverpool VIEW
PICKERIS, Eliza Wife Married F 28 1833
Liverpool VIEW
PICKERIS, Mary Daughter F 7 1854
Liverpool VIEW
PICKERIS, William Son Unmarried M 1 1860
Liverpool VIEW
PICKERIS, Lousia Daughter F 2 1859
Liverpool VIEW

1861 England Census about Wm Pickergin
Name: Wm Pickergin
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Pickergin
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 274
Piece: 2650
Folio: 191
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Pickergin 32 painter
Eliza Pickergin 28
Mary Ann Pickergin 7
William Pickergin 6
Lousia Pickergin 2
View
Original
Record

View original image

Well done Sylv

I always forget to look for trees unless they actually pop up at the top of the screen

jax

sometimes ancestry trees come in useful!!!!



1861 England Census

Name: Wm Pickergin
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Pickergin
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin

Wm Pickergin 32 Painter and (unreadable)
Eliza Pickergin 28 b.ca 1833, Liverpool
Mary Ann Pickergin 7
William Pickergin 6
Lousia Pickergin 2

Address:- 23 Cameron Street


It is hard to read, but I think it is Pickergill on the image





sylvia

Madmeg

I have posted the marriage above naming him as her father

jax

Sally, who is this William Pickersgill, and what do you know about him. E.g. was he someone's father on a marriage cert or a birth cert. Where did you first encounter him?

Margaret

?????????????


from ancestry


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Sarah Ann Pickersgill
Birth Date: 20 May
[abt 1880]
Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1880
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's name: William Pickersgill
Mother's name: Louisa Pickersgill


from image:-

Address:- Great Home Street
Father occupation:- Painter



sylvia

Name: Mary Ann Pickersgill
Birth Year: abt 1872
Age: Minor
Marriage Date: 16 Sep 1872
Parish: Liverpool St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: William Jackson
Father's name: William Pickersgill >>>painter

Spouse Father's Name: Isaac Jackson

He ain't coming up in either 1871 or 1861.

Odd that in 1881 he has two daughters ago 19 and 13, and one age 1.

These girls may not be Pickersgills. Have you got births for them?

How do you know he had a daughter Maryann b 1855? I can't find one.

Is this Mary Ann?

1861 census - household transcription
Person: PICKERSGILL, Mary Ann
Address: 31, John Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool


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PICKERSGILL, Samuel T Head Married M 37 1824 Dock Gateman
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
PICKERSGILL, Eliza Wife F 34 1827
Scotland VIEW
PICKERSGILL, Margaret Jane Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
PICKERSGILL, Mary Ann Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
PICKERSGILL, James Thomas Son M 7 1854 Scholar
Bootle
Lancashire VIEW
PICKERSGILL, Thomas Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Bootle
Lancashire VIEW
PICKERSGILL, Eliza Daughter F 1 1860
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW

Edit - probably not correct but will leave for a bit