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Father Isaiah's death:

Isaiah Jones
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Isaiah Jones
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1901
Inferred Death Place: Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 7b
Page: 60


Isaiah Jones
in the Nottinghamshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1994
Name: Isaiah Jones
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1833
Burial Date: 28 Feb 1901
Burial Place: Skegby, St. Andrew - see also Marnham, Nottinghamshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Skegby

Isaiah's son Robert William -

(NOT the man whose 1901 and 1911 census entries were posted earlier.)


William R Jones
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William R Jones
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Mother: Maria Ann Jones
Birth Place: Dawley, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Skegby
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Ecclesiastical parish: Skegby
Town: Skegby
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors:
Piece: 3139
Folio: 54
Page number: 47
Household schedule number: 247

He's with his mother Maria Ann, widow, 53, and his brother Isaiah 23.
Also his married sister Elizabeth with her husband Ernest G Buckley.
(And the Shukers are still living next door!)


Robert William Jones
in the Nottinghamshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: Robert William Jones
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1880
Marriage Date: 4 Dec 1907
Marriage Place: Skegby, St. Andrew - see also Marnham, Nottinghamshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Skegby
Father: Isaiah Jones <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Mary Elizabeth Ward


Robert William Jones
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Robert William Jones
Age in 1911: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Husband
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Dawley Bank, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Carlton
Country: England
Street Address: 22 Carlton Hill Notts
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Grocer (retail Dealer)
Registration District Number: 429
Sub-registration District: Carlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Piece: 20462
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert William Jones 31
Mary Elizabeth Jones 30
Olive Davis Ward 20



Robert W Jones
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Robert W Jones
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 29 Dec 1881
Residence Date: 1939
Address: Cyclamen, Fackley
Residence Place: Sutton-In-Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Occupation: Colliery Hewer (Pensiones)
Line Number: 10
Schedule Number: 132
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Rnqb
Borough: Sutton-In-Ashfield
Registration district: 428/2/30.
Inferred Spouse:
Mary E Jones
Inferred Children:
Ronald Jones
Household Members Age
Robert W Jones 58
Mary E Jones 60
Ronald Jones 22


Robert William Jones
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Robert William Jones
Death Date: 17 Jan 1958
Death Place: Nottinghamshire, Nottingham, England
Probate Date: 11 Mar 1958
Probate Registry: London, England

JONES Robert William of Cyclamen, 5 Fackley Road, Teversal, Nottinghamshire died 17 January 1958 at The General Hospital, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire.
Administration (with Will) London 11 March to Mary Elizabeth Jones, widow. Effects £1286 19s 8d.

Possibly Isaiah's son John Henry Jones ?? You'd need the marriage cert to verify his father's name -

John Henry Jones
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Henry Jones
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 209
Records on Page:
Name
John Henry Jones
Sarah Parbutt


John H Jones
in the 1901 England Census
Name: John H Jones
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Sarah Jones
Birth Place: Old Park, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Skegby
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Ecclesiastical parish: Skegby
Town: Skegby
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 3139
Folio: 19
Page number: 23
Household schedule number: 140

He's with wife Sarah 27, son James 3, and daughter Sophia 2.



John H Jones
in the 1911 England Census
Name: John H Jones
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Old Park Dawley, Salop, England
Civil Parish: Skegby
Country: England
Street Address: Albert Steet Stanton Hill Notts
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Miner Coneractor Hewer
Registration District Number: 428
Sub-registration District: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 20330
Household Members:
Name Age
John H Jones 40
Sarah Jones 37
James Jones 13
Sophia Jones 12
Leonard Jones 8
Clarence Jones 5
Cyril Jones 8/12


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Deaths Mar 1932 (>99%)
Jones Sarah 59 Mansfield 7b 157




John H Jones
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: John H Jones
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 1 Jul 1871
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 9 Albert Street
Residence Place: Sutton-In-Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Occupation: Colliery Hewer Retired
Line Number: 1
Schedule Number: 388
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Rnpx
Borough: Sutton-In-Ashfield
Registration district: 428/2/27
Household Members Age
John H Jones 68
Leonard Jones 37
Leslie Jones 27


John H Jones
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: John H Jones
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: abt 1870
Registration Date: Oct 1955[Nov 1955] [Dec 1955]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 172


John Henry Jones
in the Nottinghamshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1994
Name: John Henry Jones
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: abt 1870
Burial Date: 13 Dec 1955
Burial Place: Skegby, St. Andrew - see also Marnham, Nottinghamshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Skegby

Re the three children above -

Phylllis isn't Mary Ann and John's daughter - her parents were George Henry Lowe and Gertrude Annie Jones, per her baptism record.

Ditto George Henry 1913.


Mildred died in infancy, so you'd need her birth or death cert to know who her parents were. I don't see a baptism for her.:

Mildred Lowe
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Mildred Lowe
Death Age: 0
Birth Date: abt 1925
Registration Date: Apr 1925[May 1925] [Jun 1925]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 773

Isaiah's daughter Mary Ann in 1901:

Mary Ann Jones
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Jones
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Dawley, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Burbage
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Ecclesiastical parish: Burbage
Town: Burbage
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub-registration district: Buxton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors:
Piece: 3270
Folio: 115
Page number: 7
Household schedule number: 39

She's in the household of Ernest Stamper, his son Egbert Stamper, and Ernest's sister Mary Jane Parker.


Mary Ann Jones
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Mary Ann Jones
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 27
Birth Date: 1882
Marriage Date: 1 Jun 1909
Marriage Place: Brampton, St Thomas, Derbyshire, England
Father: Isaiah Jones
Spouse: John Lowe



Mary Ann Lowe
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Lowe
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Dawley, Salop, England
Civil Parish: Chesterfield
Country: England
Street Address: 146 Old Road Brampton Chesterfield
Marital status: Married
Registration District Number: 438
Sub-registration District: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 21099
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lowe 31
Mary Ann Lowe 29



Mary A Lowe
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Mary A Lowe
Death Age: 45
Birth Date: abt 1881
Registration Date: Jul 1926[Aug 1926] [Sep 1926]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 619


Ther are three possible Lowe/Jones children, all registered in Chesterfield -
George Henry 1913, Phyllis 1914, and Mildred 1925.

Hi everyone. I have been directed to this point as I haven't been on GR for such a long time. I would like to say thank you very much for all your replies and I am sorry I caused so many problems. Unfortunately, I am now poorly sighted due to two strokes and I find it difficult to navigate the site nowadays. My tree is a mess and I need to spend time removing a duplicated section.. Once again Thank you very much and I am very sorry not to have returned to the site when I should have done.

Thanks SylviainCanada, I don't really expect anyone to see this but I thought I would experiment. Like me, not everyone puts all their ancestors into their trees for various reasons and in some cases they have my ancesters simply because they collect other peoples trees!

I used to use the other trees too. People were often confused as to which board to use for what and these new boards are much clearer.

I read through the boards most days and I know others who do just because they find them interesting so ..... you never know :D

best wshes
Diana
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Diana

There have been clearly defined search boards since 2003!

They used to be called Tips and Record Office



Don't be disappointed if you don't get any personal contacts from people who know your ancestors ................ that's what you should use the Search Trees facility for.


On here, you'll just get us .......... other members who like helping others, by finding information on the internet



sylvia

Thanks Brummiejan. He has gone south a bit and never got mentioned again I don't think. Family names fit though. Probably a match:) My mother tended to talk about the ones who moved to Nottingham more.
Thanks again
Diana

Above might be him as -

Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
JONES Robert William Madeley 6a 643

Bricklayer too 1901 -

1901 England Census about

Name: Robert William Jones
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Dawley, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Newcastle Under Lyme
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Staffordshire

Registration district: Newcastle under Lyme

William Henry Meredith 49
Esther Meredith 48
Robert Meredith 28
Robert William Jones 23
Ethel Maud Breeze 4

Possibly Robert??

JONES, Robert Head Married M 33 1878 Bricklayer Dawley Shropshire VIEW
JONES, Alice Wife Married
7 years F 34 1877 Newcastle Staffordshire VIEW
JONES, Robert Son M 6 1905 Wolstanton Staffordshire VIEW
JONES, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1907 Basford Staffordshire VIEW
JONES, Stanley Son M 3 1908 Basford Staffordshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
16406 Reference:
RG14PN16406 RG78PN1017 RD359 SD2 ED5 SN311

Registration District:
Newcastle Under Lyme Sub District:
Newcastle Under Lyme Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Newcastle Under Lyme

Address:
43 West St Newcastle Staffordshire County:
Staffordshire

Well thanks for that Glitter Baby, I must admit I hadn't noticed myself.

Doh!! Makes me a bit of an idiot too doesn't it :-(
(and all that googling Shukers to try and find the link....... doh!! again)

Still looking for my Joneses though!

Thanks, Diana

Some idiot on Ancestry has not looked at the image correctly

Shuker family are on the next household schedule

Now that we have this clearly defined facility for tracing ancestors I thought that I would chance my luck and push the boat out!! Hope nobody minds!
OK let's go for it. This is my mothers side of the family in 1901 living at 84 Stanton Hill, Skegby. The Rays were lodgers.. Isaiah Jones senior was my GGrandfather and Isaiah junior was my grndfather. (who married Sarah Hunt Adams) GGrandmother was Ann Maria Jenks. Is there anyone reading this who is a direct descendant of anyone in this household. Elizabeth married George Buckley and their daughter Doris Lilian (1907-2002) became my godmother. She married John Matthews in Leicester in 1942 but they later divorced.. Maria went on to marry George Clayton in Mansfield in 1915 after Isaiah passed away. Where did the name Shuker come from? I'd love to hear from anyone who knows anything:) I've no idea what happened to the others.

many thanks Diana

1891 England Census
about Isaiah Jones
Name: Isaiah Jones
[Isaiah Shuker]
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Jones
[Louisa Jones]
Father's name: Thomas Shuker
Gender: Male
Where born: Dawley, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Skegby
Ecclesiastical parish: Skegby
Town: Skegby
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
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Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2653
Folio: 86
Page Number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
Isaiah Jones 57
Maria Jones 43
John Henry Jones 20
Elizabeth Jones 17
Isaiah Jones 14
Robert Jones 11
Mary Ann Jones 9
Eliza Ray 44
Enoch Ray 15
Mark Ray 13
Thomas Shuker 32
Louisa Jones 34
Harold Jones 4
Alfred Jones 2
Thomas Jones 7/12
Thomas Shuker 66
Alfred Shuker 22