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DianaBorntoGoogle
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22 May 2011 16:15 |
Now that we have this clearly defined facility for tracing ancestors I thought that I would chance my luck and push the boat out!! Hope nobody minds! OK let's go for it. This is my mothers side of the family in 1901 living at 84 Stanton Hill, Skegby. The Rays were lodgers.. Isaiah Jones senior was my GGrandfather and Isaiah junior was my grndfather. (who married Sarah Hunt Adams) GGrandmother was Ann Maria Jenks. Is there anyone reading this who is a direct descendant of anyone in this household. Elizabeth married George Buckley and their daughter Doris Lilian (1907-2002) became my godmother. She married John Matthews in Leicester in 1942 but they later divorced.. Maria went on to marry George Clayton in Mansfield in 1915 after Isaiah passed away. Where did the name Shuker come from? I'd love to hear from anyone who knows anything:) I've no idea what happened to the others.
many thanks Diana
1891 England Census about Isaiah Jones Name: Isaiah Jones [Isaiah Shuker] Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Jones [Louisa Jones] Father's name: Thomas Shuker Gender: Male Where born: Dawley, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Skegby Ecclesiastical parish: Skegby Town: Skegby County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2653 Folio: 86 Page Number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Isaiah Jones 57 Maria Jones 43 John Henry Jones 20 Elizabeth Jones 17 Isaiah Jones 14 Robert Jones 11 Mary Ann Jones 9 Eliza Ray 44 Enoch Ray 15 Mark Ray 13 Thomas Shuker 32 Louisa Jones 34 Harold Jones 4 Alfred Jones 2 Thomas Jones 7/12 Thomas Shuker 66 Alfred Shuker 22
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GlitterBaby
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22 May 2011 16:23 |
Some idiot on Ancestry has not looked at the image correctly
Shuker family are on the next household schedule
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DianaBorntoGoogle
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22 May 2011 17:01 |
Well thanks for that Glitter Baby, I must admit I hadn't noticed myself.
Doh!! Makes me a bit of an idiot too doesn't it :-( (and all that googling Shukers to try and find the link....... doh!! again)
Still looking for my Joneses though!
Thanks, Diana
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brummiejan
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22 May 2011 17:11 |
Possibly Robert??
JONES, Robert Head Married M 33 1878 Bricklayer Dawley Shropshire VIEW JONES, Alice Wife Married 7 years F 34 1877 Newcastle Staffordshire VIEW JONES, Robert Son M 6 1905 Wolstanton Staffordshire VIEW JONES, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1907 Basford Staffordshire VIEW JONES, Stanley Son M 3 1908 Basford Staffordshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 16406 Reference: RG14PN16406 RG78PN1017 RD359 SD2 ED5 SN311 Registration District: Newcastle Under Lyme Sub District: Newcastle Under Lyme Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Newcastle Under Lyme Address: 43 West St Newcastle Staffordshire County: Staffordshire
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brummiejan
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22 May 2011 17:16 |
Above might be him as -
Births Mar 1880 (>99%) JONES Robert William Madeley 6a 643
Bricklayer too 1901 -
1901 England Census about
Name: Robert William Jones Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Dawley, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Newcastle Under Lyme Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Staffordshire
Registration district: Newcastle under Lyme
William Henry Meredith 49 Esther Meredith 48 Robert Meredith 28 Robert William Jones 23 Ethel Maud Breeze 4
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DianaBorntoGoogle
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22 May 2011 19:58 |
Thanks Brummiejan. He has gone south a bit and never got mentioned again I don't think. Family names fit though. Probably a match:) My mother tended to talk about the ones who moved to Nottingham more. Thanks again Diana
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SylviaInCanada
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23 May 2011 01:20 |
Diana
There have been clearly defined search boards since 2003!
They used to be called Tips and Record Office
Don't be disappointed if you don't get any personal contacts from people who know your ancestors ................ that's what you should use the Search Trees facility for.
On here, you'll just get us .......... other members who like helping others, by finding information on the internet
sylvia
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DianaBorntoGoogle
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23 May 2011 10:22 |
Thanks SylviainCanada, I don't really expect anyone to see this but I thought I would experiment. Like me, not everyone puts all their ancestors into their trees for various reasons and in some cases they have my ancesters simply because they collect other peoples trees!
I used to use the other trees too. People were often confused as to which board to use for what and these new boards are much clearer.
I read through the boards most days and I know others who do just because they find them interesting so ..... you never know :D
best wshes Diana n
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DianaBorntoGoogle
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31 Aug 2022 17:35 |
Hi everyone. I have been directed to this point as I haven't been on GR for such a long time. I would like to say thank you very much for all your replies and I am sorry I caused so many problems. Unfortunately, I am now poorly sighted due to two strokes and I find it difficult to navigate the site nowadays. My tree is a mess and I need to spend time removing a duplicated section.. Once again Thank you very much and I am very sorry not to have returned to the site when I should have done.
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ArgyllGran
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31 Aug 2022 17:51 |
Isaiah's daughter Mary Ann in 1901:
Mary Ann Jones in the 1901 England Census Name: Mary Ann Jones Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Dawley, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Burbage Search Photos: View blank form Ecclesiastical parish: Burbage Town: Burbage County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub-registration district: Buxton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: Piece: 3270 Folio: 115 Page number: 7 Household schedule number: 39
She's in the household of Ernest Stamper, his son Egbert Stamper, and Ernest's sister Mary Jane Parker.
Mary Ann Jones in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Mary Ann Jones Gender: Female Marriage Age: 27 Birth Date: 1882 Marriage Date: 1 Jun 1909 Marriage Place: Brampton, St Thomas, Derbyshire, England Father: Isaiah Jones Spouse: John Lowe
Mary Ann Lowe in the 1911 England Census Name: Mary Ann Lowe Age in 1911: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Dawley, Salop, England Civil Parish: Chesterfield Country: England Street Address: 146 Old Road Brampton Chesterfield Marital status: Married Registration District Number: 438 Sub-registration District: Chesterfield ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Piece: 21099 Household Members: Name Age John Lowe 31 Mary Ann Lowe 29
Mary A Lowe in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Mary A Lowe Death Age: 45 Birth Date: abt 1881 Registration Date: Jul 1926[Aug 1926] [Sep 1926] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Chesterfield Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 619
Ther are three possible Lowe/Jones children, all registered in Chesterfield - George Henry 1913, Phyllis 1914, and Mildred 1925.
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ArgyllGran
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31 Aug 2022 18:00 |
Re the three children above -
Phylllis isn't Mary Ann and John's daughter - her parents were George Henry Lowe and Gertrude Annie Jones, per her baptism record.
Ditto George Henry 1913.
Mildred died in infancy, so you'd need her birth or death cert to know who her parents were. I don't see a baptism for her.:
Mildred Lowe in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Mildred Lowe Death Age: 0 Birth Date: abt 1925 Registration Date: Apr 1925[May 1925] [Jun 1925] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Chesterfield Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 773
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ArgyllGran
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31 Aug 2022 18:27 |
Possibly Isaiah's son John Henry Jones ?? You'd need the marriage cert to verify his father's name -
John Henry Jones in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: John Henry Jones Registration Year: 1895 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 209 Records on Page: Name John Henry Jones Sarah Parbutt
John H Jones in the 1901 England Census Name: John H Jones Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Sarah Jones Birth Place: Old Park, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Skegby Search Photos: View blank form Ecclesiastical parish: Skegby Town: Skegby County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: Piece: 3139 Folio: 19 Page number: 23 Household schedule number: 140
He's with wife Sarah 27, son James 3, and daughter Sophia 2.
John H Jones in the 1911 England Census Name: John H Jones Age in 1911: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Old Park Dawley, Salop, England Civil Parish: Skegby Country: England Street Address: Albert Steet Stanton Hill Notts Marital status: Married Occupation: Miner Coneractor Hewer Registration District Number: 428 Sub-registration District: Sutton in Ashfield ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Piece: 20330 Household Members: Name Age John H Jones 40 Sarah Jones 37 James Jones 13 Sophia Jones 12 Leonard Jones 8 Clarence Jones 5 Cyril Jones 8/12
?? Deaths Mar 1932 (>99%) Jones Sarah 59 Mansfield 7b 157
John H Jones in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: John H Jones Gender: Male Marital Status: Widowed Birth Date: 1 Jul 1871 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 9 Albert Street Residence Place: Sutton-In-Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England Occupation: Colliery Hewer Retired Line Number: 1 Schedule Number: 388 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: Rnpx Borough: Sutton-In-Ashfield Registration district: 428/2/27 Household Members Age John H Jones 68 Leonard Jones 37 Leslie Jones 27
John H Jones in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: John H Jones Death Age: 85 Birth Date: abt 1870 Registration Date: Oct 1955[Nov 1955] [Dec 1955] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 3c Page: 172
John Henry Jones in the Nottinghamshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1994 Name: John Henry Jones Death Age: 85 Birth Date: abt 1870 Burial Date: 13 Dec 1955 Burial Place: Skegby, St. Andrew - see also Marnham, Nottinghamshire, England Parish as it Appears: Skegby
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ArgyllGran
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31 Aug 2022 18:54 |
Isaiah's son Robert William -
(NOT the man whose 1901 and 1911 census entries were posted earlier.)
William R Jones in the 1901 England Census Name: William R Jones Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Mother: Maria Ann Jones Birth Place: Dawley, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Skegby Search Photos: View blank form Ecclesiastical parish: Skegby Town: Skegby County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: Piece: 3139 Folio: 54 Page number: 47 Household schedule number: 247
He's with his mother Maria Ann, widow, 53, and his brother Isaiah 23. Also his married sister Elizabeth with her husband Ernest G Buckley. (And the Shukers are still living next door!)
Robert William Jones in the Nottinghamshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937 Name: Robert William Jones Gender: Male Marriage Age: 27 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1880 Marriage Date: 4 Dec 1907 Marriage Place: Skegby, St. Andrew - see also Marnham, Nottinghamshire, England Parish as it Appears: Skegby Father: Isaiah Jones <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse: Mary Elizabeth Ward
Robert William Jones in the 1911 England Census Name: Robert William Jones Age in 1911: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Husband Gender: Male Birth Place: Dawley Bank, Shropshire, England Civil Parish: Carlton Country: England Street Address: 22 Carlton Hill Notts Marital status: Married Occupation: Grocer (retail Dealer) Registration District Number: 429 Sub-registration District: Carlton ED, institution, or vessel: 04 Piece: 20462 Household Members: Name Age Robert William Jones 31 Mary Elizabeth Jones 30 Olive Davis Ward 20
Robert W Jones in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Robert W Jones Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 29 Dec 1881 Residence Date: 1939 Address: Cyclamen, Fackley Residence Place: Sutton-In-Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England Occupation: Colliery Hewer (Pensiones) Line Number: 10 Schedule Number: 132 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: Rnqb Borough: Sutton-In-Ashfield Registration district: 428/2/30. Inferred Spouse: Mary E Jones Inferred Children: Ronald Jones Household Members Age Robert W Jones 58 Mary E Jones 60 Ronald Jones 22
Robert William Jones in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 Name: Robert William Jones Death Date: 17 Jan 1958 Death Place: Nottinghamshire, Nottingham, England Probate Date: 11 Mar 1958 Probate Registry: London, England
JONES Robert William of Cyclamen, 5 Fackley Road, Teversal, Nottinghamshire died 17 January 1958 at The General Hospital, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire. Administration (with Will) London 11 March to Mary Elizabeth Jones, widow. Effects £1286 19s 8d.
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ArgyllGran
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31 Aug 2022 18:57 |
Father Isaiah's death:
Isaiah Jones in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Isaiah Jones Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1901 Inferred Death Place: Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom Volume: 7b Page: 60
Isaiah Jones in the Nottinghamshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1994 Name: Isaiah Jones Death Age: 68 Birth Date: abt 1833 Burial Date: 28 Feb 1901 Burial Place: Skegby, St. Andrew - see also Marnham, Nottinghamshire, England Parish as it Appears: Skegby
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