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susan

susan Report 3 May 2011 21:59

William and Margarett Holden Childrens DOB and Deaths
Most born Pedre Brecknock or Hereford
Anyone related

jansmith

jansmith Report 3 May 2011 22:12

try search trees above if there is anyone related you could send them a message

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 May 2011 22:25

Which century might help

jax

jax Report 3 May 2011 22:46

sometime 1st half of 20th I would think so as suggested freebmd or trees

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/holden/thread/1267007

jax

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 3 May 2011 22:51

What this marriage ?

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Bishop Margarett A Holden H.Hempstead 3a 990
Gowans James Renton H.Hempstead 3a 990
Holden William J Bishop H.Hempstead 3a 990
Renton Edith M H Gowans H.Hempstead 3a 990


jax

jax Report 3 May 2011 22:55

Then there is this thread where the name Bishop is mentioned

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/mcnabb/thread/1266873

AmazingGrace08

AmazingGrace08 Report 4 May 2011 00:37

I've added this on the other thread as I am not sure which one will be deleted:

Susan is looking for a John Holden, son of William and Margaret who she states came to Australia and enlisted in WW2.

Hi Susan,

These are the only war records of those people named John Holden and who have declared a place of birth as England.

Service Record
Name HOLDEN, JOHN
Service Australian Army
Service Number NX169994 (N99475)
Date of Birth 13 Sep 1919
Place of Birth WHITEHAVEN, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment 27 May 1943
Locality on Enlistment YOUNG, NSW
Place of Enlistment DAPTO, NSW
Next of Kin HOLDEN, WILLIAM
Date of Discharge 14 May 1945
Rank Bombardier
Posting at Discharge H Q 57 AUST S/L BTY (M)
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

Service Record
Name HOLDEN, JOHN
Service Australian Army
Service Number V10790
Date of Birth 9 May 1892
Place of Birth LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment 3 Feb 1941
Locality on Enlistment GILL MEMORIAL HOSTEL
Place of Enlistment ROYAL PARK, VIC
Next of Kin Unknown
Date of Discharge 28 Jan 1943
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 3 GARRISON BRIGADE
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

Service Record
Name HOLDEN, JOHN DANIEL SHERIDAN
Service Australian Army
Service Number NX53647
Date of Birth 1 Jun 1903
Place of Birth COSSAL, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment 8 Jul 1940
Locality on Enlistment WINGHAM, NSW
Place of Enlistment PADDINGTON, NSW
Next of Kin HOLDEN, OLIVIA
Date of Discharge 11 Oct 1941
Rank Trooper
Posting at Discharge 1 ARMD TRNG REGT
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

Service Record
Name HOLDEN, JOHN TYSON
Service Australian Army
Service Number W17807
Date of Birth 10 Sep 1900
Place of Birth YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment 18 Nov 1940
Locality on Enlistment WONGAN HILLS, WA
Place of Enlistment PERTH, WA
Next of Kin HOLDEN, DOROTHY
Date of Discharge 13 Oct 1945
Rank Corporal
Posting at Discharge 5 AUST L OF C PROVOST
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

Service Record
Name HOLDEN, JOHN WILLIAM FREDERICK
Service Australian Army
Service Number QX9280
Date of Birth 23 Aug 1907
Place of Birth BIRKEN HEAD, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment 17 Jun 1940
Locality on Enlistment SHERWOOD, QLD
Place of Enlistment KELVIN GROVE, QLD
Next of Kin HOLDEN, ROBERTINA
Date of Discharge 17 Oct 1945
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 2/25 AUSTRALIAN INFANTRY BATTALION
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

Can I ask the following questions:

You say everything is unknown, how do know he joined the Army?

Any ideas on his year of birth, if he had a middle name?

Cheers

Rachelle



jax

jax Report 4 May 2011 00:52

cannot see any John Holden's born to that couple

Edit Oh yes I can now born 1927

jax

moonbi

moonbi Report 4 May 2011 02:20

there are lots of John Holden born 1910 to 1920 on Freebdm.
we really need to know the district or county.
edit oops I see its hereford shire

susan

susan Report 4 May 2011 18:37

Thank you everyone

AmazingGrace08

AmazingGrace08 Report 5 May 2011 00:23

Susan did you have any more information that could help us track any more information?

jax

jax Report 5 May 2011 00:30

I posted the birth of the only John and if he was born in 1927 seems a bit young to have served in the war unless at the very end

jax

AmazingGrace08

AmazingGrace08 Report 5 May 2011 00:37

Hi Jax, yep far too young I would say if that's teh right birth record.

Maybe he was a James known as John or something like that...we need Susan to come back and explain:

1: How she knows his name is John
2: How she knows he came to Australia
3: How she knows he served in the Army and not in another force

Susan all this helps us build up a more accurate picture of the person you are looking for, and lets us know what sources you are referring to.

Cheers

Rachelle

jax

jax Report 5 May 2011 00:42

Well you can see the children they had and John was the youngest and a twin it seems

jax

Holden/Bishop

AmazingGrace08

AmazingGrace08 Report 5 May 2011 00:55

If that is even the right marriage that Glitter Baby ound, Susan has not confirmed or discounted it..so there is no confirmation of dates or anything!

moonbi

moonbi Report 5 May 2011 01:02

have a look at the other thread on TTF towards the top of page 2
McNAbb

Lynski

Lynski Report 5 May 2011 01:08

This is the thread that moonbi is referring to -

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/mcnabb/thread/1266873

susan

susan Report 5 May 2011 19:58

Hi All, I have found out John Holden who served in the Austrialian army lied about his name to sign up as it was Ronald Patrick Holden, possible age a bit off too as his father would not want him to join up. he took his grandfathers name. :D
Thank you for your help
John was twin to joan.

AmazingGrace08

AmazingGrace08 Report 6 May 2011 01:37

Hi Susan,

I can't find a war record for a Robert Patrick Holden or even a Robert Holden that matches.....how have you found this bit of info out?

AmazingGrace08

AmazingGrace08 Report 6 May 2011 01:41

There is only one Robert Holden that is shown as born in England with a very differing date of birth etc. Here are his details:

Service Record
Name
HOLDEN, ROBERT
Service
Australian Army
Service Number
NX43464
Date of Birth
17 Feb 1919
Place of Birth
BURNLEY, ENGLAND
Date of Enlistment
22 Aug 1941
Locality on Enlistment
AUBURN, NSW
Place of Enlistment
PADDINGTON, NSW
Next of Kin
HOLDEN, ERNEST
Date of Discharge
25 Mar 1946
Rank
Sapper
Posting at Discharge
2/3 IND FD SQN
WW2 Honours and Gallantry
None for display

Prisoner of War
No