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Angela

Angela Report 12 Apr 2011 20:15

Can any tell me how I can look up Baptisms on the above church records.
I cannot find births of the following Albert John Obrien
and Albert Patrick Obrien parents Patrick John Obrien mother Alice Maude Edmonds. I believe they could have been born between 1898- 1909 . Thank you Angela

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Apr 2011 20:40

should they be on 1911 census as i haven't found them yet -to check birth years

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Apr 2011 20:45

?? there is this Alice
OBRIEN, Alice Maude Head Widow F 30 1881 Laundery Work Bath Somerset
OBRIEN, Dennis Son M 3 1908 Bath Somerset
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14704 Reference:
RG14PN14704 RG78PN893 RD316 SD4 ED2 SN404

Registration District:
Bath Sub District:
Walcot Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Bath

Address:
25 Great Corn Street Bath

Angela

Angela Report 12 Apr 2011 20:48

Hi Jan
Ive tried to find them , Ive been on this site before and found out with help so much about Alice and all her children. The other day someone contacted me about theses two boys and they are also Alice children. It turn out thtat this person is a direct cousin to my husband which was great to find. He has some information on the boys but not register of their births . I was wondering if she had them baptised at St Johns as she had other children baptised there. I dont know how I can find this out and I was wondering if any could tell me how to find church records.
Angela

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Apr 2011 20:50

image for Alice says married 13 yrs 8 children 1 died this has then been crossed out i think because she is a widow.

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Apr 2011 20:54

you could contact them on their site and ask about records
http://www.stjohnsrcbath.org.uk/history.htm

Angela

Angela Report 12 Apr 2011 20:58

Yes Jan thats her
Ive got all her c hildren nellie 1897, kate1899,James1901,Gertrude1905,
Dennis 1908 Frederick 1910 thats six children Frederick died. But like you said in 1911 she had 8 childfren one died so there are two missing
William John and Albert Patrick but I can not find them anywhere . They must have been born between 1897 - 1909 because Alice husband died 1909. any ideas how I can find them .
I know everything about Alice as like ive said ive asked about her before .
Thanks Angela

Angela

Angela Report 12 Apr 2011 21:09

Hi Jan
I trie this site last night but I just put www.stjohnsrcbath.org.uk
Ill try with history see if thta works ,
Thanks Angela

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Apr 2011 21:23

??
Name: John William O'Brien
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 66 (

Angela

Angela Report 12 Apr 2011 21:35

Hi Jan
Ive just tried to send an email to the above email address but it not going through so I will write . Now that looks possible I wonder if he was a twin to dennis ? What do you think? the only problem is district was Bristol not Bath. but Ill take a look on the 1901 census for John William now
Thanks Angela

Angela

Angela Report 12 Apr 2011 21:37

Sorry I meant 1911 Census

Angela

Angela Report 12 Apr 2011 21:41

Hi Jan
Sorry wrong family
Thanks for trying Angela

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Apr 2011 21:44

"I cannot find births of the following Albert John Obrien and Albert Patrick Obrien" - not sure what you mean here.

It is unlikely they would have the same first name.

Ozi

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Apr 2011 21:46

Ahh! Just read later post - "William John and Albert Patrick but I can not find them anywhere ."

Sorry,
Ozi


P.S. Presumably you got these names off newly found cousin. Are you sure they're right?

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Apr 2011 21:58

this is perhaps that John in 1911 so not yours
OBRIEN, John Edwin Head Married M 27 1884 Railway Carriage Cleaner St James Bristol
OBRIEN, Eleanor Minnie Wife Married
4 years F 26 1885 St Pauls Bristol
OBRIEN, John William Son M 3 1908 St Phillips Bristol

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Apr 2011 22:05

Where have you found Nellie, Kate & James as I can only find Gertrude, Dennis & Frederick in Bath?

Also, a bit of time discrepancy here:
Deaths Dec 1908
O'BRIEN Patrick John 33 Bath 5c 323

Births Dec 1910
O'BRIEN Frederick J Bath 5c 446
Deaths Dec 1910
O'Brien Frederick J 0 Bath 5c 357


Ozi

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Apr 2011 22:05

i can see girl O'briens born Bath who are in school but no males without parent

Angela

Angela Report 12 Apr 2011 22:05

Hi Jan
Yes he has known them most of his life He has given me the marriages ,
William John married Kathleen P Manning newton abott 1928
Albert Patrick married Gwen M M Dyer in Totnes 1938 . The only thing we can think is Alice never registered them she was not a very good mother by all accounts placing her children in homes. Gertrude and Kate wer put in a catholic school and I know my father in law who she had after her husband died was put in a home in Bath. My father in law was born in 1913 and she abandoned them all

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Apr 2011 22:09

More time discrepancy:

Births Jun 1897
Edmonds Nellie O'Brien Bath 5c 522

Marriages Jun 1898
EDMONDS Alice Maud Bath 5c 1156
O'Brien Patrick John Bath 5c 1156

jansmith

jansmith Report 12 Apr 2011 22:09

Ozi this is the family in 1901

Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick A Brien 25
Alice Brien 23
Kate Brien 2
James Brien 6 Months